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The Quran => General Discussions => Topic started by: Sardar Miyan on April 17, 2013, 08:27:52 AM

Title: Ayah 59:70
Post by: Sardar Miyan on April 17, 2013, 08:27:52 AM
إِلَّا مَن تَابَ وَآمَنَ وَعَمِلَ عَمَلًا صَالِحًا فَأُولَٰئِكَ يُبَدِّلُ اللَّهُ سَيِّئَاتِهِمْ حَسَنَاتٍ وَكَانَ اللَّهُ غَفُورًا رَّحِيمًا

Except him who repents and believes and does a good deed; so these are they of whom Allah changes the evil deeds to good ones; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

As per this Ayah Allah transform bad deeds into good deeds if the believer repents & does good deeds. Does this mean that instead of wiping off bad deeds these will be transformed into good deeds. Some brother may kindly explain. Thanks
Title: Re: Ayah 59:70
Post by: HOPE on April 17, 2013, 09:32:20 AM
Salaam Sardar,

Would you please recheck the verse number?

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Title: Re: Ayah 59:70
Post by: Sardar Miyan on April 17, 2013, 10:18:32 AM
Sorry Bro I mis quoted The Ayah is 25:70 Thanks
Title: Re: Ayah 59:70
Post by: optimist on April 17, 2013, 05:23:49 PM
Assalamu Alaikum,

According to Quran, ‘saleh’ deeds are acts which develop one’s capabilities. The verse means, if someone/ group of people repent, make amendments, keep away from evil deeds, reform,  and work to develop their capabilities, Allah’s law will bring positive changes in them and this will transform their evil deeds into good deeds and thus give them protection from the deficiencies created from their wrong deeds.

Regards,
Optimist
Title: Re: Ayah 59:70
Post by: HOPE on April 17, 2013, 11:03:37 PM
Peace,

25:70  those are they whose evil deeds God shall change into good one

11:114  Indeed the good deeds take away the evil ones

Yes, looks like there is transformation.  Isn't it the goal?  To create transformed believers?  The faults are covered by plenty of virtuous behavior.

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Title: Re: Ayah 59:70
Post by: Sardar Miyan on April 18, 2013, 04:26:40 AM
I am just asking if after repentense the  bad deeds will be transformed into goog deeds which means not only our good deeds are rewarded after repentense but earlier bad deeds are changed into good deeds Thanks
Title: Re: Ayah 59:70
Post by: HOPE on April 18, 2013, 09:30:59 AM
salaam,

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I am just asking if after repentense the  bad deeds will be transformed into goog deeds which means not only our good deeds are rewarded after repentense but earlier bad deeds are changed into good deeds

You mean killing two birds with one stone?  True repentance leads to reformation/transformation of beliefs and practices.  Your actions will prove your new, improved, repentant nature.  Then God cancels past sins and by His Grace you become pious, patient, steadfast, devoted servant.  You are making the effort !


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Title: Re: Ayah 59:70
Post by: Sardar Miyan on April 20, 2013, 01:13:30 AM
Bro. JAI may please throw some light on this Ayah. Thanks
Title: Re: Ayah 59:70
Post by: Truth Seeker on April 20, 2013, 06:30:54 AM
Bro. JAI may please throw some light on this Ayah. Thanks

Salaam Sardar Miyan.

Joseph is currently unavailable. Thanks.
Title: Re: Ayah 25:70
Post by: Sardar Miyan on April 20, 2013, 08:55:57 AM
OK Let us wait till he is back inshallah
Title: Re: Ayah 59:70
Post by: Sardar Miyan on May 10, 2013, 05:22:48 AM
Assalam Bro JAI. Having come back can you please throw some light on this Ayah if are having time. Thanks
Title: Re: Ayah 59:70
Post by: Siddiq on May 19, 2013, 06:01:09 AM
Salaam Sardar Miyan:
The adopted translation of سَيِّئَاتِ & حَسَنَاتٍ (good deeds, bad deeds) is incorrect. سَيِّئَاتِ means the negative tendencies in your nafs نفس (self, personality, purposefulness etc.). These negative tendencies are earned كسب through past bad deeds. When you change your ways, over a period of time, your good deeds shall cause positive changes in your nafs نفس. Thus eventually, if you persist on the right path, you will be able to change your (earlier) bad tendencies in to good tendencies. Hope you find it helpful.
Title: Re: Ayah 59:70
Post by: Sardar Miyan on May 20, 2013, 04:11:57 AM
Salam Can  Bro JAI may please explain as still I am not able to follow about this Ayaah Thanks
Title: Re: Ayah 59:70
Post by: HOPE on May 20, 2013, 05:49:07 AM
Peace,

11:114  "Good things carry away the evils" innal hasanati yudh'hib'nal sayiat.  it is mentioned right after the salat timing thus salat is considered a hasanat; a transformational act.


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Title: Re: Ayah 59:70
Post by: Joseph Islam on May 20, 2013, 09:16:15 AM
Dear Sardar,

As-salam alaykum

My sincerest apologies. Sorry to have missed your question. My views are not so different from those shared by brother Irfan in 'Reply #9 in the link below.

http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=851.0

I agree with the responses given by Bros Miyan and Siddiq.  The critical verse to understand 25:70 (which used the derivative of the root verb  "baddala =switch) is to understand its cognate verse 11:114 (which uses the root verb "dhahaba =takes away) and the verse 28:54 that uses the root verb "dara'a = to avert):
28:54 "Twice will they be given their reward, for that they have persevered, (and) they avert evil with good." Notice the "doubling of the award, one for persevering and the other for averting evil with good.
Even if the meaning of the “Sayyi’ah” is “sin”, still the verse 6:60 allows the “sinner” to offset the balance of sins in his favor by a margin of 10:1.
[6:160] Whoever does a righteous work receives the reward for ten, and the one who commits a sin is requited for only one. No one suffers the slightest injustice

One must also keep in mind God's overarching mercy which can be noted in verses 6:12 and 6:54. This is already tacitly alluded to in the quote above referencing verse 6:160. In some semblance, please also note verse 39:35, where God says He will acquit, remove (kaffara) from the worst of what one did and reward one for the best (ahsani) of what they used to do. The word 'kaffara' from its root 'kfr' as many will know inherently carries the nuance of 'concealment', to veil or cover a thing.

The balance is certainly tilted in a soul's favour, albeit sadly, many still will end up in a state of loss.


Regards,
Joseph.
Title: Re: Ayah 59:70
Post by: Sardar Miyan on May 20, 2013, 10:39:07 AM
Thanks Bro JAI
Title: Re: Ayah 59:70
Post by: Irfan on May 20, 2013, 12:42:26 PM
Peace all,

The following reply that I poste this morning was posted to the wrong thread.  Here it is again:

I agree with the responses given by Bros Miyan and Siddiq.  The critical verse to understand 25:70 (which used the derivative of the root verb  "baddala =switch) is to understand its cognate verse 11:114 (which uses the root verb "dhahaba =takes away) and the verse 28:54 that uses the root verb "dara'a = to avert):
28:54 "Twice will they be given their reward, for that they have persevered, (and) they avert evil with good." Notice the "doubling of the award, one for persevering and the other for averting evil with good.
Even if the meaning of the “Sayyi’ah” is “sin”, still the verse 6:60 allows the “sinner” to offset the balance of sins in his favor by a margin of 10:1.
[6:160] Whoever does a righteous work receives the reward for ten, and the one who commits a sin is requited for only one. No one suffers the slightest injustice
This is an excellent question. Sometime ago, an imam candidate at our local mosque delivered a sermon about "Divine forgiveness". He gave an example of a 90-year man who was reported to have sinned all his life but finally had his moment and turned to Allah (swt).  The imam said that Allah, not only forgave all his previous sins, but, in fact, transformed ALL of them into "good deeds".  Then he immediately referred to verse 25:70 so he would be able to ward off a possible question. A questioner confronted the imam after the khutba. The imam gave another example of a man (mentioned in a hadith) who murdered 100 people and wanted to know if he was still entitled for forgiveness. He was directed to visit a Muslim scholar who lived at a far-off place.  The murderer travelled but died on the way to the scholar.  The Paradise angels and the Hell angels disputed and finally agreed to measure the distance from the start of the travel to the scholar and found the murderer’s dead body closer in distance to the scholar--so Allah forgave all his murders!!!  The questioner was not satisfied...but he kept quiet.
Title: Re: Ayah 59:70
Post by: Irfan on May 20, 2013, 01:09:50 PM
Thanks bro. Joseph,

All these verses of forgiveness soften my heart and bring tears to my eyes....what a very powerful support from the Most High and the Most Compassionate.  God begins all the Suras (except Sura 9--compensated in 27:30) with His attributes showing his wiliness to grant limitless bounties of forgiveness. The word Awesome does not describe the coolness of shade in the sweltering heat.