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Title: al-Masih
Post by: fireheart47 on April 07, 2026, 04:39:16 PM
Dear QM Forum,

The topic of the word 'al-Masih' (Arabic: المسحى) is one, which I have been thinking about since I received my first Qur'an muṣḥaf.

Ahmadiyya

I received a Qur'an muṣḥaf translation by Maulawi Sher 'Ali, which belongs to the Ahmadiyya sect or community. This Qur'an is special to me, because it has Star of David patterns on the outside. Experts Ze'ev Barkan and Uri Ofer say that the Star of David was originally a depiction of lily symbol (Medu Ntr: 𓆸; Gardiners number: M9; Hebrew: שושן) .

Star of David blog https://star-of-david.blogspot.com/

It is also special to me, because the first mosque in Berlin, Germany, in 1920's, belonged to the Ahmadiyya community and was open to all Muslim.

Strangely, I recently noticed that our Qur'an muṣḥaf doesn't include Surah al-Insan.

The Ahmadiyya community is considered heretical by many traditional believers, because the Ahmadiyya community follows another Messiah after Jesus, Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, who lived in today's country of Pakistan and wanted to unite world religions under Islam.

This seems very peculiar to have been the first mosque in Berlin, since within decades a very destructive misguided man, Adolf Hitler, was called Messiah by the press, and spoke about 1,000 year kingdom, like the narratives of the Book of Revelation.

Acknowledgments and simple ideas

Thanks to friendships with people from Jewish, Muslim, and African backgrounds, I have learned about these topics. I am a privileged man, whose ancestors may have belonged to those communities, yet who has benefited in some way or another from injustices.

I believe the word Messiah is misunderstood by most people in the 3 major Abrahamic religions, that there is no 1 Messiah as many believe, and that Jesus did not favor this concept, yet that it benefited the preservation of his extraordinary good deeds.

Monotheism in Kemet

Dr. Asa Hilliard in his presentation, 'The Master Keys of Kemet', discusses how Kemet or Ancient Egypt was originally monotheistic. Baba Heru also teaches this wisdom.

The monotheistic principle of Kemet was the concept of 'ntr' (Medu Ntr: 𓊹; Gardiner number: R8), which many people say is a pictograph of a flag, yet I believe it is the chisel that was used to carve the 'Medu Ntr' (Medu Ntr: 𓊹𓌃𓌃𓌃, English: Words of God), as taught by Ra Un Nefer Amen. The axe chisel represents the Force, which the artisans used, and correlates with the meaning of AL (Hebrew: אל , English: god, to, towards), which I learned from Shlomifish.

Wiktionary - https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%F0%93%8A%B9
Sesh Kemet blog - https://seshkemet.weebly.com/gardiner-sign-list.html
Thesaurus Linguae Aegyptae - https://thesaurus-linguae-aegyptiae.de/lemma/78190

The Kemetic origin of the word 'Messiah'

The word 'ms' (Medu Ntr: 𓄟; English: born of, produced from) is part of this important ancient writing system taught by modern expert, Mfundishi Jhutymus. It is also found in the names Thutmose and Ramses. In these names it communicates a quality, characteristic or devotion this individual has to the archetype or deity.

Many linguists believe that the pictograph for the 'ms' sound shows 3 fox skins, yet I believe that it is a zoomed-in version of the flail (Medu Ntr: 𓌅; S45), from the Flail and Crook (Medu Ntr: 𓋾; S38) duality seen on the sahu sarcophogi.

A statue of Ramesses II holding Crook and Flail on same hand, Wikimedia Commons: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ramesses_II_holding_a_crook_and_a_flail._19th_Dynasty,_c._1240_BC._From_Nubia._State_Museum_of_Egyptian_Art,_Munich.jpg

The YouTuber named Glossagram shows a video, which explains how the flail was used to extract oils from plants. This corroborates with the word 'ḥp' (Medu Ntr: 𓌅𓊪𓆰; English: a plant).

Proof of the Exodus of Moses

On Torah.com, there are two important articles, which provide important arguments for the connection between Kemet and the sons of Israel.

Dr. Joseph Weinstein's article, "We Were Slaves to the Hyksos", shows how the sons of Israel were enslaved by an assimilated Mesopotamian people. Although, I would like to comment how many people use the word 'we' and 'them' to refer to our distant ancestors or similar people groups. https://www.thetorah.com/article/we-were-slaves-to-the-hyksos-in-egypt

Professor Israel Knohl's article, "YHWH: The Original Arabic Meaning of the Name", shows how the marriage between Moses and Zipporah may have introduced the sacred name of our Lord, which I believe can be pronounced many different ways. In the article it says that it means, 'love, passion, or affection', which corroborates with the importance of marriages in the Torah and the lessons they teach (ex: meeting at wells), the compassion of Jesus in the Gospels, and the simple religion of the Qur'an. https://www.thetorah.com/article/yhwh-the-original-arabic-meaning-of-the-name

The YouTube channel Patterns of Evidence has a video called, "The Moses Inscriptions | Patterns+ Video Subscription - Trailer".https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQH-U2ZpRfQ

Our ancestors or cultural antecedents were Hebrews

I believe the word 'Hebrew' (Hebrew: עבר) and Arab (Hebrew:ערב; Arabic:عرب), were originally the same word, yet changed due to a linguistic phenomena known as metathesis. I believe it changed only in the Torah to refer to the people group, which Abraham, belonged to. The Qur'an has older forms and more consistent forms many words, such as رب، علم، اله . The Qur'an hasn't been transcribed for as long and had advantage of being the 3rd major document.

I was taught by a Rabbi on YouTube that 'Hebrew' means those that crossed-over from Euphrates-Tigres River to the Nile River system, from east to west.

I believe Hebrew migratory group includes Phoenicians (incl. Carthage), Ethiopians of Axum, Arab tribes (incl. Sheba), and the Israelites of Moses. These ancient people have had influence over many other cultures through the spread of writing systems and religions .

Hebrew scriptures

In the Torah, there is a continued importance of the word 'ms' through the name 'Moshe' (Hebrew: משה; Arabic: موسى), which is explained in the verse Exodus 2:10.

Tanach.us
Quoteויגדל הילד ותבאהו לבת פרעה ויהי לה לבן ותקרא שמו משה ותאמר כי מן המים משיתהו

Sefaria.org
QuoteWhen the child grew up, she brought him to Pharaoh's daughter, who made him her son. She named him Moses, explaining, "I drew him out of the water."

This has a similar connotation to Medu Ntr word that meant 'born of, produced from'. It also is similar to the English words, 'plant extracts'.

In Hebrew, the word for al-Masih is 'Meshiach' (Hebrew: משח; Arabic:المسيح; Greek:χριστος, English: Messiah, Christ), which is also the Hebrew word for anointment 'meshach'.

Anointment

The recipe for the anointing oil is described in the Torah, here's a portion of it, Exodus 30:24-25.

Quoteוקדה חמש מאות בשקל הקדש ושמן זית הין 24
25 ועשית אתו שמן משחת קדש רקח מרקחת מעשה רקח שמן משחת קדש יהיה

Quote24 five hundred—by the sanctuary weight—of cassia, and a hin of olive oil.
25 Make of this a sacred anointing oil, a compound of ingredients expertly blended, to serve as sacred anointing oil.

Today, there's an organization in the country called Israel, Rabbis for Human Rights, which helps Palestinians with their olive tree harvest. https://www.rhr.org.il/en/

The reason for anointment

In the time of Moses, the priesthood anointed themselves and the altars for sacrifices (Exodus 28:41), which could've also protected the altars from oxidation and kept them beautiful. A portion of the animals used in sacrifices fed the priesthood (Exodus 29:33).

I believe that when the Torah talks about "pleasing aroma" (Exodus 29:18), it is because the smell of food attracted people, who are mortal independent forces (Genesis 2:2, Genesis 9:6, Psalm 82:6) part of the 1 living Force, and helped form a society.

Holy life

Instead of using the bronze to make weaponry, it was used for peaceful religious rituals. Instead of human sacrifice, the animals were sacrificed to God and fed to sustain holy human life.

There are also foreign anointed people like the Persian man, Cyrus the Great, who did extraordinary good deeds (Book of Isaiah 45:1).

War caused confusion

It begins to become confusing, when we consider Samuel's anointing of Saul (Hebrew: שאול), which spelled same as Sheol, the underworld (I Samuel 15:1).

Saul is un-anointed, because Saul didn't kill the ancient enemy's animals as ordered (1 Samuel 15:14) and so the leader changed irrevocably (I Samuel 15:27-29) and David (Hebrew:דויד; English: Beloved) took his place.

Even though, God is King (I Samuel 12:7-12).

Quoteמלך העולם

Quoteβασιλείαν τοῦ θεοῦ

Quoteملك يوم الدين

God's kingdom

I see how David (1 Samuel 30:17) and Solomon (1 Kings 2:24) perpetuated war and other forms of violence.

I believe all the religious books have been misinterpreted and have been changed by governments. Sat-an (Medu Ntr: 𓃫𓉥; Hebrew: שטן; Arabic: سطن; English: to oppose, the opposer [Numbers 22:22]) describes  behavior.

Instead, many people fear a secondary supernatural force called Satan that rivals the 1 God, yet act devilishly, sowing the seeds of destruction through their actions.

The body is the temple

I believe the temple of Solomon still exists underneath the mosques. The one that the Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon are named after.

Its windows were on the roof (1 Kings 6:4), and its interior made of wood (1 Kings 6:15) covered in gold (1 Kings 6:22), yet the temple became filled with dirt and forgotten to history, because of this covering-up of the foundational wisdom and history's contradictory lesson.

Details of Temple - www.bibleoutlines.com/1-kings-61-38-details-of-the-temple-construction/

The foundation

The foundational wisdom: War and other forms of violence have been wrong since the beginning.

Genesis 4:15
Quote4:15ויאמר לו יהוה לכן כל הרג קין שבעתים יקם וישם יהוה לקין אות לבלתי הכות אתו כל מצאו
QuoteGOD said to him, "I promise, if anyone kills Cain, sevenfold vengeance shall be exacted." And GOD put a mark on Cain, lest anyone who met him should kill him.

Quote6:11ותשחת הארץ לפני האלהים ותמלא הארץ חמס
Jehovah's Witness, New World Translation - https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/genesis/6/

QuoteBut the earth had become ruined in the sight of the true God, and the earth was filled with violence.

Sefaria.org

QuoteThe earth became corrupt before God; the earth was filled with lawlessness.

Surah ash-Shu'arah Ayat 154-156

Islamicity.org

Quote154 مَآ أَنتَ إِلَّا بَشَرٌ مِّثْلُنَا فَأْتِ بِـَٔايَةٍ إِن كُنتَ مِنَ ٱلصَّـٰدِقِينَ
155 قَالَ هَـٰذِهِۦ نَاقَةٌ لَّهَا شِرْبٌ وَلَكُمْ شِرْبُ يَوْمٍ مَّعْلُومٍ
156 وَلَا تَمَسُّوهَا بِسُوٓءٍ فَيَأْخُذَكُمْ عَذَابُ يَوْمٍ عَظِيمٍ

Quote154 - Thou art nothing but a mortal like ourselves! Come, then, forward with a token [of thy mission] if thou art a man of truth!"
155 - Replied he: "This she-camel shall have a share of water, and you shall have a share of water, on the days appointed [therefor];
156 - and do her no harm, lest suffering befall you on an awesome day!"

These things I was able to understand thanks to the teachings of Jesus in the Gospels, my childhood friend, and Shlomifish.

Yeshu, Isa

I believe that Jesus knew the concept of Set and was tempted to go to war against his oppressor after he was baptized ( Matthew 3:15, Matthew 4:8 ).

Jesus didn't go to war against Rome.

Yet, the false Messiah named Bar Kochba did and resulted in mass suicide on Masada.

According to the gospels, Jesus spent time in Kemet. Some Talmudic scriptures say people similar to Jesus were accused of Egyptian magic.

https://www.seekandfindtruth.com/historical/the-talmud-on-jesus

https://jewishvirtuallibrary.org/ben-stada

Wisdom and knowledge from Kemet

Thanks to Baba Heru, I've learned about the allegory of Ausar. Here are my observations of the topic:

Ausar (Greek: Ὄσιρις) and Aus't (Greek: Ἶσις) are the celestial father and mother of the narrative. In the sky, Ausar represents Orion Constellation and Aus't represents Milky Way. On Earth, Ausar represents plants and Aus't represents the Nile River. Spiritually, Ausar represents wisdom and Aus't represents life.

Set is Ausar's warrior brother. Nebet-het is Aus't's helpful sister. In the sky, Set represents the Alderbaran constellation. In the sky Nebet-het represents the Sirius star system. On the Earth, Set represents the Saharan desert. On the Earth, I don't know what Nebet-het represents.

Set loses control and kills his brother Ausar, and rips him into 14 pieces, which I believe represents 14 stars in the Orion constellation the people of Kemet observed. Nebet-het helps Aus't bring together the pieces, except phallus, which gets eaten by a fish in the Nile River.

I believe this allegory teaches ecology: plants die and break into pieces, yet they grow well near the river.

It also teaches philosophy and reason: we break ideas down (Greek: ἀνά-λυσις) conceptually, yet if we break them down too much they lose meaning, so it is counter-balanced by bringing ideas together (Greek: σύνθεσις).

It also warns about faults in our behavior: men are prone to violence, and women are prone to lack of modesty.

It teaches us that we are all Heru (Medu Ntr: 𓂀; Greek: Ὧρος; English: observer).

Jesus Christ

Instead of war which Jesus seemingly knew, Jesus was brave and spoke out against the unspoken issues in his religion and society, knowing the consequences (Luke 4:24, Matthew 23:15). He used his strength to resist his punishment peacefully (Luke 22:49-51, Matthew 26:52). He taught his disciples that his spirit and his teachings of faith in forgiveness would live (Matthew 18:20, Gospel of John 14:6), even though his body died (Matthew 26:26).

In Jesus' life, he lamented what the scribes and pharisees had done, even though some supported him (Acts 5:39). Today, we lament the Greek scribes and Pharisee named Paul.

The Beast

I believe in the Book of Revelation, the anti-Christ (Greek:ἀντίχριστος; English: instead of anointed, opposed to anointed) refers to Jesus himself, because the scriptures record that it wasn't him to be king (Matthew 16:15, Luke 22:70, Matthew 27:37).

Matthew 27:37

Stephanus 1550
Quote37 καὶ ἐπέθηκαν ἐπάνω τῆς κεφαλῆς αὐτοῦ τὴν αἰτίαν αὐτοῦ γεγραμμένην· Οὗτός ἐστιν Ἰησοῦς ὁ βασιλεῦς τῶν Ἰουδαίων

JW New World Translation

QuoteThey also posted above his head the charge against him, in writing: "This is Jesus the King of the Jews."

They, the Roman soldiers, who had also known something similar to Set, the cult of Mars.

Jesus is a human, a type of animal, although a holy animal.

Humans have the Holy Spirit, which means we are made in its image. Source: https://adishakti.org/al-qiyamah/ruh_of_allah_al_isra.htm

God is Spirit (Gospel of John 4:24). Spirit is another word for air, because it was invisible to the naked eye, like quantum foam is today. The invisible things interact and create reality. Ourselves are a result of interactions, which make us reflect the greater creative 1.

BibleHub, Greek, Parallel Greek, Stephanus Textus Receptus 1550
Quoteκαὶ ἀπήνεγκέν με εἰς ἔρημον ἐν πνεύματι καὶ εἶδον γυναῖκα καθημένην ἐπὶ θηρίον κόκκινον γέμον ὀνομάτων βλασφημίας ἔχον κεφαλὰς ἑπτὰ καὶ κέρατα δέκα

JW New World Translation

QuoteAnd he carried me away in the power of the spirit into a wilderness. And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet-colored wild beast that was full of blasphemous names and that had seven heads and ten horns.

Jeremiah 3:22, English translation from BibleHub

QuoteBut like a woman unfaithful to her husband, so you, Israel, have been unfaithful to me," declares the LORD.

In the history of the Catholic church, there was a person named Nostradamus (English: Our Woman), which I believe represented an anarchic group of people who secretly spoke out against organized religion and made predictions about the future. Similar to how people have used pseudonyms in history. https://lithub.com/doubting-shakespeares-identity-isnt-a-conspiracy-theory/

One of the curious predictions of Nostradamus, which stood out to me as a kid was the prophecy of the conqueror named 'Hister' or with the long-S 'Hiſter'. 1,000's of years of wars and other forms of violence created a lot chaos and confusion.

So now, imagine how the scriptures might change in monasteries and throughout time, yet retain the foundational pattern.

Rev 11:2-5
Quote2.But as for the courtyard that is outside the temple sanctuary, leave it out and do not measure it, because it has been given to the nations, and they will trample the holy city underfoot for 42 months.
3. I will cause my two witnesses to prophesy for 1,260 days dressed in sackcloth."
4. These are symbolized by the two olive trees and the two lampstands and are standing before the Lord of the earth.
5. If anyone wants to harm them, fire comes out of their mouths and consumes their enemies. If anyone should want to harm them, this is how he must be killed.

Rev 13:5, the perspective of the pharisees
QuoteIt was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and it was given authority to act for 42 months.

The ministry of Jesus according to the Gospels was from around 30 to 33 years old, that's 3 years. 42 months equals 3.5 years. Consider the ambiguity of his exact birth date and the accuracy of other religious narratives.


Seeking perfection

Thanks to considering Jesus an anointed person, we have preserved his teachings, which are wisdom from God. There are many similarities that can be found between Abrahamic culture described in the books and other religions, which altogether guide us to use our words faithfully and honor God the living spirit though compassionate acts.

Signs of God

I believe I live a generational curse for the transgressions and mistakes of my grandfather, who I believe was Adolf Hitler. God knows all the details of his own suffering, which contributed to his misguidance. I believe I grew up in the house where he committed suicide, we found a hole in the wall thanks to helping my brother do an EMF inspection. There's also a substance that looks like blood on the basement walls, which reminds me of Jesus' blood in rocks below Golgotha (metagenomics?). I believe he became a transwoman, because of the injuries he received in war.

Today I struggle, yet I have hope that people can heal and contribute good to the world.

Exodus 20:5
Quote20:5לא תשתחוה להם ולא תעבדם כי אנכי יהוה אלהיך אל קנא פקד עון אבת על בנים על שלשים ועל רבעים לשנאי
JW, New World
QuoteYou must not bow down to them nor be enticed to serve them, for I, Jehovah your God, am a God who requires exclusive devotion, bringing punishment for the error of fathers upon sons, upon the third generation and upon the fourth generation of those who hate me,

Conclusion

Today, many people await another Messiah, as if there can only be 1 person. Yet, the evidence shows there has been many in history, and they inspire us to seek to be a good servant of the Living One.

الله الحي