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The Quran => General Discussions => Topic started by: yahya on March 27, 2017, 10:49:32 AM
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Assalam alikum I have read the pages and facebook page about noah age but some people think the flood of noah was 5600 bc but how could noah and his people live up to a thousand years when everyone else live a very short life because humans live very short life's back then because noah nation had to be close to ad and thamud so if ad and thamud was about in the 12 thousand years ago region the noah had to be as well
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"but how could noah and his people live up to a thousand years when everyone else live a very short life because humans live very short life's back then"
Noah's longevity was a miracle bestowed by God. It's very simple.
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So it might of just been him and not the rest of his people or was his people life's a miracle too
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Yes
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but how could noah and his people live up to a thousand years
Shalom / peace ... where does it say that Noah's people lived thousand years? Noah lived among his people for nearly thousands of years but that could be different generations .... Noah lived 950 years but that doesn't mean his people did as well .....
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I misspoke on my previous answer. I was saying 'yes' to your first statement, that Noah (pbuh) was the only one among his people with a very long life. My apologies.
Regards
wanderer
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Ok thanks but wouldn't of people thought of him as a angle or god like sine he was the only one living that long and don't forget noah had a wife and children as well if he was the only too live that long he must of had children and wife later on in his life
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Dear Yahya,
As-salamu alaykum
I feel that this is actually quite a good question / topic and I will attempt to offer some of my humble views on this.
As you may already be aware, I have already commented on Prophet Noah's age in a Facebook post which I do believe, in essence, supports the longevity Biblical view of 900+ years. [1]
The Quran only mentions such longevity briefly and that with regards Prophet Noah. Furthermore, there is nothing to suggest that this longevity was only restricted to Prophet Noah and not his people. All we know is that he lived amongst his people for nearly a thousand years but they continued in their waywardness which led to his prayer of condemnation (71:26-27). Therefore, such longevity may have been the norm during Prophet Noah’s time.
It is also the Quran's view, that general guidance can be found in the Bible [28:49] [2] and of course, we also know that even the Prophet was instructed to revert to the learned of the People of the Book if he was in doubt of certain claims [16:43; 21:7-8]. To support the latter sentiment, please also see reference [3] below.
There appears to be two periods from the Bible when it comes to longevity of human life; a pre-flood period and a post-flood period. We note that many Biblical patriarchs from the 10 generations from Adam to Prophet Noah had what we would consider, extremely long lives. Many reportedly lived past 900 years. However, post flood and in the 10 generations to Prophet Abraham we note a steady decline in longevity till Prophet Abraham where he reportedly lived in his 100s.
So the apt question in my view is what possibly happened pre and post flood and to the generations of 'humans' which gradually resulted in shorter life spans till we come to the general expectancy of a 70-90 years life span.
If we note the creation of Adam, who can be considered the perfected archetype of man, certainly arguably, from a genetic pool and physiological perspective (15:29, 38:72), he was fashioned to live for eternity [4] in a state of felicity on earth before he sinned. It is only after he sinned, that a life term was generally appointed (7:24-25). If we accept this perspective, it is then not so remarkable to posit the suggestion of a strong gene pool for human beings till the ten generations leading to Prophet Noah from Adam.
We are also not aware of what damage the flood left on the areas surrounding where the ship finally rested and where the new generations of humans subsequently lived. It is quite possible that dietary resources changed and the scarcity of cultivated land etc. contributed to an impact on longevity. After all, a flood would have left immense devastation.
Either way, a general life-span has been considered apt in God’s plan for humans to be trialled. Arguably, the longer the lifespan spent sinning, the greater the accountability and punishment in the Hereafter. Maybe it is a blessing then, that such long lifetimes are a thing of the past as we saw with the people of Noah who continued in their transgressions. Verse 2:96 also makes a very powerful statement regarding the weakness of the human condition with regards those bent on transgression (2:96).
These thoughts are not intended to be comprehensive or authoritative but merely, humble suggestions given the information to our avail.
I hope this helps, God willing,
Joseph
REFERENCES
[1] The Precision of the Quran's Usage of Language - Prophet Noah's Long Life
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.a.islam/posts/395974967206303
[2] The Two Guides - The Quran and the Bible
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.a.islam/posts/300599863410481
[3] ASK THOSE THAT HAVE KNOWLEDGE
http://quransmessage.com/articles/ask%20one%20with%20knowledge%20FM3.htm
[4] Was Adam created mortal? Or he lost immortality after disobeying God?
http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=1505.msg7027#msg7027
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Thanks but I still think that that adam came anywhere from 20 thousand bc to 1.2 million years ago all depends if the homo erectus and neanderthal was humans or not and noah was between 5-10 thousand bc and he was sent only to his people and that there were humans all over the earth when noah was alive but the flood only effected his people and that we don't all come from noah and the people if the ark because noah had to be close to ad and thamud and AD and thamud had to of come between 2-7 thousand bc especially if those buildings are thamud in petra and madain al saleh and the quran says noah was close to ad and thamud because the quran says ad was khalifa after noah so these our my views maybe noah nation was a special nation a one off with age but I don't think there was 10 generations between adam and noah but much longer and the 10 genration thing is from the bible and hadith also one scholor said when the bible mentions 10 people in between of Adam and noah it was the most best of people but not the age of generations but this is my options but thanks
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Dear Yayha,
I don't necessarily agree with your timelines, but that is fine.
However more importantly, can I kindly request that in future, when you mention what other 'people say' or you assert abstract references to 'scholars' and their alleged claims, can you please kindly cite evidence of their claims with links if appropriate.
I would prefer to keep this forum at a good academic level with good citations and reference support.
Regards,
Joseph
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Ok will the scholor who said this about the generation bible thing was from al mawald website the scholors under javed ghamidi
You said you don't agree with the timeline what timeline do you think is the best from your humble opinion because like I said it really depends in if the homo erectus and neanderthal are humans or not if they are then adam had to be from one of the timeline period but like I said this is where I thought of the timeline but it would be great to hear your view what your think I also got this timeline from the scholor pof joey hayward or joel hayward he is the brother who does poems and is a historian jazzakkallah
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Also I went on my timeline because they said we bred with neanderthals and if that was the case then they had to be humans and also there finding more and more whitch says they are humans
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You said you don't agree with the timeline what timeline do you think is the best from your humble opinion because like I said it really depends in if the homo erectus and neanderthal are humans or not if they are then adam had to be from one of the timeline period but like I said this is where I thought of the timeline but it would be great to hear your view what your think I also got this timeline from the scholor pof joey hayward or joel hayward he is the brother who does poems and is a historian jazzakkallah
Dear Yahya,
As-salamu alaykum
My sentiment about timelines was specifically concerned with the generational gap between Adam and Prophet Noah. I would rather not surmise on any other timeline.
I have no reason to dismiss the Biblical understanding of a separation of 10 generations between Adam and Prophet Noah and if any timeline, whilst allowing for longevity, supports such a generation time gap, then I am happy to support it in the main.
Any other wider timeline calculation regarding genus is beyond the scope of what I would be willing to answer given the uncertainties.
I hope that clarifies my position.
Regards,
Joseph
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Thanks jazzakkallah this is not a question just my opion why I have a problem with the bible timeline that I just want to share on this page that's all its not a question just sharing information
1. The problem is the bible gives a timeline of only 6 thousand years but humans exsist way before that and they were smart like example the gobekli temple or building or such
2. The bible gives just 10 generations between noah and abraham as well
3. Also within these timeliness they insult the prophets alot like saying noah got drunk and prophet lut slept with his daughters etc
4. Also I believe the bible can only be used so much because when you compare the two the bible and quran you get alot of confusion and that's why the quran can only be trusted fully
5. The old ttestament is the worst out of the two old and new testament at least the new testament only focuses on prophet jesus and it's more of a guidance like the quran than the old testament
These are just my views that i finally wanted to share with this page but thanks jazzakkallah and I understand what you mean jazzakkallah
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Dear Yahya,
As-salamu alaykum
Thank you for sharing your views.
Then my humble suggestion would be to not probe questions with a view to elicit responses which cannot be answered by anyone with any degree of certainty and take the Quranic advice:
018:022 (Part)
"Enter not, therefore, into controversies concerning them, except on a matter that is clear / obvious / apparent (Arabic: Illa miraan zahiran)..."
Just my humble view :)
Regards,
Joseph
RELATED ARTICLE:
[1] UNKNOWN TOWNS AND NAMES - WHY FILL IN THE GAPS?
http://quransmessage.com/articles/unknown%20towns%20and%20names%20FM3.htm
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Thanks I guess my last question is in your articles you say the quran doesn't say the bible is corrupt but what happens when the bible says one thing and the quran says another doesn't that prove the bible is corrupt or something is wrong with the bible but thanks
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With respect dear Yayha, I think you are deviating from the essence of your opening post.
I felt you asked a good question in your opening posts which I acknowledged and I feel I tried to answer it to the best I feel the information within the Quranic text (brief) and the Bible allowed. Please let us kindly stay on topic.
Now as to my position on the Quranic text as the final criterion between right and wrong, I believe that you are already kindly aware of this. I have already written extensively on this.
Regards,
Joseph
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Please forgive me I was not questioning your position or belief I just wondered what does it mean if the quran says one thing and the bible says another when the quran confirms the bible
Also does the quran say that noah nation was the first to commit shirk or was there nations before who commit shirk what's the quran position on this as well
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Asalamu Alykum
Thanks for sharing your views brother Joseph. They were very interesting and thought provoking.
The only verse I would say that sheds a little tension on your humble view is verse 7:20. Would you think that God really intented for Adam to live for eternity on earth considering that saitan was promising them eternity if they ate from the tree?
Also do you then think the flood covered the whole earth since the lifespan of people all over the earth decreased because of the floods impact on the earth or do you still hold your views that it was just Noah's people who were over taken but the flood effected the world population at that time regarding their longevity and carried on?
I would agree with your current view that it was possibly only Noah's people who were destroyed and other people possibly still were living as nations but the decrease in lifespans of them as well was possibly due to the impact of the flood to the whole earth and not just part of it. God knows best.
Dear brother Yahya
what does it mean if the quran says one thing and the bible says another when the quran confirms the bible
There has been lots of discussions regarding what you just asked.
It is of course when the two are in contrast with each other regarding a subject then the Quran is the truth and stands to correct the meaning of what it goes against in the Bible.
But in the posts that brother Joseph has discussed regarding the Bible the Quran does not mention them and he has mentioned that there is no reason for him to deny the Biblical narratives regarding the lifespan of the nations the Bible mentions. Because the Quran does not argue other wise or confirm and I also suppose there is no concrete science or evidence that supports otherwise or disproves the Bible.
Salam
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"We are also not aware of what damage the flood left on the areas surrounding where the ship finally rested and where the new generations of humans subsequently lived. It is quite possible that dietary resources changed and the scarcity of cultivated land etc. contributed to an impact on longevity. After all, a flood would have left immense devastation."
I could be wrong, but this does seem to conflict with Br. Joseph's previous remarks Noah(sws)'s Flood being localized. Do you still hold this position?
Regards
wanderer
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Dear Hamzeh,
As-salamu alaykum
You are absolutely correct. My use of the word 'eternity' was not intended (now scored). My sentence should have simply read 'If we note the creation of Adam, who can be considered the perfected archetype of man, certainly arguably, from a genetic pool and physiological perspective (15:29, 38:72), he was fashioned to live in a state of felicity which is described as 'Jannah' on earth before he sinned.'
As I have mentioned in another comprehensive post [1] below, Adam's state was 'mortal' albeit with certain privileges not common to mortals as we know today. How much of these 'privileges' referenced in the post below contributed to longevity, even potentially over a 1000 years, this is difficult to conclude. However, the state pre-sin appears to indicate a greater general well-being than after the sin took place which included 'toil / suffering' (20:117) and a removal of the privileges that were previously enjoyed in multitude (sustenance / food without exception bar one (2:35); no hunger experienced (20:118); no sense of nakedness (20:118); no thirst experienced (20:119), not to feel the sun's heat despite a 'sun' being present (20:119); no toil / suffering (20:117)).
Either way, after the sin, it appears that general longevity was still close to a 1000 years, as evidenced by Prophet Noah’s age and if the Biblical perspective is admitted, the 10 generations of patriarchs from Adam till Prophet Noah.
The main point being argued was that the gene pool would have arguably been the strongest with the first human created by God and to see this gene pool extend to subsequent generations to Prophet Noah would not be so remarkable. I trust respectfully, that this point at least is still taken into consideration.
With regards the flood, I still hold the position that this would be localised as I have mentioned in post [2] below. However, this does not mean that it merely covered a small area. It is quite possible that the area was large enough that the entire community of humans from the remaining seed of Adam till Prophet Noah were wiped out by the flood bar those that were saved by the ship. As a crude example, even if certain continents today were engulfed in an immense flood, that would still not infer the 'entire' planet.
Therefore, there is no inference in the Quran to suggest that the transgressed communities by Prophet Noah's time had spread far and wide across the planet into other nations where a world-wide flood was necessary to wipe them from existence. After all, there were only 10 generations between Adam and Prophet Noah from a Biblical perspective, despite them having long lives. In line with God's way to punish those that have transgressed when the word is fulfilled against them, it is quite possible that Prophet Noah's message had reached the entirety of the population of humans who were contained in a certain area, but they still transgressed and were hence destroyed.
Therefore, I respectfully see no conflict with the statement 'We are also not aware of what damage the flood left on the areas surrounding where the ship finally rested and where the new generations of humans subsequently lived. It is quite possible that dietary resources changed and the scarcity of cultivated land etc. contributed to an impact on longevity. After all, a flood would have left immense devastation.' This statement arguably remains applicable whether a world-wide flood is argued for or not.
Finally, most importantly, please kindly note the caution that I shared in my response with the post:
“These thoughts are not intended to be comprehensive or authoritative but merely, humble suggestions given the information to our avail.”
I am usually very reluctant to respond to questions where one has to lean on uncertain information without at least, sharing a proviso / disclaimer of sorts. My engagement in this thread / response to Yahya in this instance has somewhat been an exception. I usually try not to engage in such discourses.
This is also why I urged Yahya not to probe questions with a view to elicit responses which cannot be answered by anyone with any degree of certainty and take the Quranic advice:
018:022 (Part)
"Enter not, therefore, into controversies concerning them, except on a matter that is clear / obvious / apparent (Arabic: Illa miraan zahiran)..."
In future, I will try to be even more vigilant to heed my own advice, God willing.
Thanks for your input as always. :)
Regards,
Joseph
RELATED:
[1] Was Adam created mortal? Or he lost immortality after disobeying God?
http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=1505.msg7027#msg7027
[2] Was the flood on Noah's people global or local?
http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=502.msg1632#msg1632
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This is not a question and this is my last information to this post I agree that every one could off been one community in noah time but my problem with that the quran makes it clear the noah was close to ad and thamud and we know if petra was thamud then noah had to be close to that time give or take a few thousand years before so if that is the case noah would be between 10-5 thousand bc so noah nation could not be one community if you know what I mean unless someone can prove that 7:65 and 7:74 doesn't mean noah was really close to ad and thamud timeline but that these verse just mean they were khalifas like noah but not after or near noah timeline to make noah close to ad and thamud timeline this is just information not a question but I'm done now but thanks for the help and I agree with joesph islam verse 18:22 part
Enter not, therefore, into controversies concerning them, except on a matter that is clear / obvious / apparent (Arabic: Illa miraan zahiran).
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But like I said I'm done with this question jazzakkallah
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Dear Yahya,
As-salamu alaykum
With utmost respect, once again I find that there are a lot of assumptions in your statements.
For example, one cannot determine from the Quran what the exact gap in years is between Prophet Noah and the people of Aad or Thamud or indeed, if they immediately followed as the next generation of people. However, I have noted that you continue to make these assumptions. I have already shared a comprehensive perspective on Aad and Thamud and in relation to landmarks that are visible today. [1]
For example, just because Aad is referenced in verse 7:65 and in the previous verse, there is mention of the fate of Noah's people (7:64), this does not automatically imply that they immediately followed as a people or that there is a determinable time gap between them.
Thank you for acknowledging the sentiment in verse 18:22.
Regards,
Joseph
REFERENCE:
[1] Assalam alikum Joseph Islam - Thamud and the Nabateans
http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=2234.msg11668#msg11668
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I know I was saying I agree with you what you said about ad and thamud that's what I was saying all I was saying was that 7:65 said khalifa so normally khalifa is past on from one nation to another so when the verse says after noah it makes it sound like they became the next khalifa after noah that was all but I was not questioning about thamud and ad I was saying I agreed with what you said in that discussion the thamud post jazzakkallah
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Wa alykum as salam brother Joseph
Thank you very much for your elaborations. I was not aware of the article about Adam being created mortal which led me to that question. I just wanted to make sure I was reading verse 7:20 correctly.
The main point being argued was that the gene pool would have arguably been the strongest with the first human created by God and to see this gene pool extend to subsequent generations to Prophet Noah would not be so remarkable. I trust respectfully, that this point at least is still taken into consideration.
Yes I agree
Regarding the pre-flood I was under the impression that civilizations were spread all over the world by Noah's time and thinking that the flood was then localized only to Noah's people, so I thought that the people who were not effected by the flood lets say in Mexico would still remain in their state of longevity. However you made the point that if the Biblical perspective was admitted which only 10 generations had lived from Adams time which does leave me with the imagination that they possibly did not spread world wide. Thanks.
Also I agree with your statement "it is quite possible that Prophet Noah's message had reached the entirety of the population of humans who were contained in a certain area, but they still transgressed and were hence destroyed."
Therefore, I respectfully see no conflict with the statement 'We are also not aware of what damage the flood left on the areas surrounding where the ship finally rested and where the new generations of humans subsequently lived. It is quite possible that dietary resources changed and the scarcity of cultivated land etc. contributed to an impact on longevity. After all, a flood would have left immense devastation.' This statement arguably remains applicable whether a world-wide flood is argued for or not.
I agree, God knows best.
“These thoughts are not intended to be comprehensive or authoritative but merely, humble suggestions given the information to our avail.”
I am usually very reluctant to respond to questions where one has to lean on uncertain information without at least, sharing a proviso / disclaimer of sorts. My engagement in this thread / response to Yahya in this instance has somewhat been an exception. I usually try not to engage in such discourses.
This is also why I urged Yahya not to probe questions with a view to elicit responses which cannot be answered by anyone with any degree of certainty and take the Quranic advice:
018:022 (Part)
"Enter not, therefore, into controversies concerning them, except on a matter that is clear / obvious / apparent (Arabic: Illa miraan zahiran)..."
In future, I will try to be even more vigilant to heed my own advice, God willing.
I was aware they were not conclusive and were humble suggestions. I was also reluctant in asking you the questions as I know you don't like to get into arguments which are not apparent but I have to admit I do like to hear your suggestions as they do make a person realize that their is things we will never know for sure but I keep in mind that things like this are not conclusive but just an example and God knows best. I apologize for getting you into that.
Salam :)
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I was aware they were not conclusive and were humble suggestions. I was also reluctant in asking you the questions as I know you don't like to get into arguments which are not apparent but I have to admit I do like to hear your suggestions as they do make a person realize that their is things we will never know for sure but I keep in mind that things like this are not conclusive but just an example and God knows best. I apologize for getting you into that.
No need to apologise my dear brother. I am very glad you asked as it gave me an important opportunity to clarify and share further thoughts / links. May God bless you Insha'Allah :)
As-salamu alaykum
Regards,
Joseph
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Yahya,
Your last post was removed as it was irrelevant to the opening post and the theme of this thread. You have already been warned not to continue with unnecessary discussions which are not relevant to the topic. Please don't mix topics from different threads.
Thanks.
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Thank you for your kind words dear brother.
May Allah (swt) bless you and the ones you love too Insha'Allah. :)
Wa alaykum as-salam
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Shalom / peace brother Joseph... thank you so much for all your input on this topic...As always, its really nice to see your views. You really make one think. I think I agree with you on the limited population .... If there was as much corruption so much so that Allah had to destroy them all, I can only imagine the premature deaths in wars ... the diseases that may have spread among some of the unrighteous ... >>>the murders, the killings, the rapes ....pillaging etc .... So I think the numbers may not be that large come to think about it..... We can't just assume that because they had the potential of long lives that they were reproducing in large numbers, even in 10 generations or so ...even if they were .. they'll be numerous factors that could mean that many were also dying in high numbers - particularly as it was a really corrupt society .... In the end .....>>>Allah knows best ...
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But also the bible says there's only 10 generations between noah and abraham as well
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But also the bible says there's only 10 generations between noah and abraham as well
And your point is what?
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My point is if there are only 10 generations between adam and noah and if there ages were upto the thousand but they were one community then it wouldn't make much sense that if there were 10 generations only and shorter ages and everyone spread over the earth in 10 generations it would be too short of timeline and why wouldn't they stay in one community if you know what I mean so the 10 genration between noah and abraham would not make sense since between adam and noah was only 10 generations jazzakkallah
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Honestly Yahya ... I don't know what you are talking about .....! Who said everyone spread all over the earth in the 10 generations to Abraham? and why are you using one timeline of a pre-flood and imposing it on another timeline after the flood??. This is the problem with so many of your posts in my opinion..... They are just so full of assumptions and and faulty conclusions based on faulty assumptions .... 2 different timelines !!! No one knows how the procreated and how they travelled and what communities went where.... Maybe the 10 generations to Abraham saw a more stable population growth and faster .... who knows???? maybe they had more kids .. who knows? May be the generations pre-flood went into so much corruption, murder and warfare etc that they started to wipe each other out before the flood ....Why do we have to sit here and guess!!!! ... Why??
Allah knows best .... lets just leave it to that!
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If there was as much corruption so much so that Allah had to destroy them all, I can only imagine the premature deaths in wars ... the diseases that may have spread among some of the unrighteous ... >>>the murders, the killings, the rapes ....pillaging etc .... So I think the numbers may not be that large come to think about it..... We can't just assume that because they had the potential of long lives that they were reproducing in large numbers, even in 10 generations or so ...even if they were .. they'll be numerous factors that could mean that many were also dying in high numbers - particularly as it was a really corrupt society .... In the end .....>>>Allah knows best ...
As-salamu alaykum Duster,
Yes indeed, there is support for mass violence existing pre-flood in the Bible. Please kindly see Genesis 6:11-13. You may also find it interesting to note the covenant that God made with Prophet Noah and all people with the rainbow as the sign (Genesis 9:12–15).
Regards,
Joseph
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well what attracts my attention is that people in the history who are accompanied to great prophets and were shown great miracles how can they go on refusing such signs. they must be so headless or so uncapable of understanding the true signs. When we review early human history it is easy to spot that people of old times easily given a high statue like 'god' to sun moon stars even natural phenomenons even stones. So how come these people can be so much reluctant not to believe a miracle which is just happening right in front of them considering for example noah living 950 years or in the event of other prophet's miracles a simple example jesus making bird from clay and by blowing it turns to be a living bird or in the event of abraham fire not touching him. Or moses many signs and miracles brought but only few following him. So what makes these ordinary people to easily accept stones stars moon sun fire gods easily but resist mindlessly such open signs miracles! is it because human kind in its nature irrational? or so obvious signs make him suspicous about it? like the saying "the only free cheese is in the mouse trap". is there a bug in human mind? =)
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Salaam,
A possible explanation is that the people of Noah used a different calendar system and that Noah and his people lived a "normal human life span".
"1000 sanatin illa 50 ʿāman", could refer to "Noah's age at the time of the flood" according to their calendar counting system and not to an exceptional longevity.
28:14 And verily we sent Noah (as Our messenger) unto his folk, and he continued with them for a thousand years save fifty years; and the flood engulfed them, for they were wrong-doers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_King_List
... "The antediluvian reigns were measured in Sumerian numerical units known as sars (units of 3,600), ners (units of 600), and sosses (units of 60)."...
Mohamad Shahrour
https://youtu.be/5dCOalhMZtk
(in Arabic)
والله اعلم
Allah knows best.
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Salaam,
Salaam,
A possible explanation is that the people of Noah used a different calendar system and that Noah and his people lived a "normal human life span".
"1000 sanatin illa 50 ʿāman", could refer to "Noah's age at the time of the flood" according to their calendar counting system and not to an exceptional longevity.
28:14 And verily we sent Noah (as Our messenger) unto his folk, and he continued with them for a thousand years save fifty years; and the flood engulfed them, for they were wrong-doers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_King_List
... "The antediluvian reigns were measured in Sumerian numerical units known as sars (units of 3,600), ners (units of 600), and sosses (units of 60)."...
Mohamad Shahrour
https://youtu.be/5dCOalhMZtk
(in Arabic)
والله اعلم
Allah knows best.
Sorry, should be 29:14
https://www.islamawakened.com/quran/29/14/default.htm