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The Bible => Discussions => Topic started by: Naeem Xapha on January 21, 2018, 08:42:08 AM

Title: Is god a fraud?
Post by: Naeem Xapha on January 21, 2018, 08:42:08 AM
Salams

I sometimes ask Christians what does the word "sacrifice" mean? Without resorting to a dictionary or Wikipedia, I would offer that it means to give up something of value and worth, in order to derive a greater good or benefit...perhaps to lose something, to give up and surrender, to go without.

So, we read in the Wholly Libel "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life"  John 3:16

But!!!

The God of the bible knew that he would raise Jesus up from the dead so it was NOT a sacrifice- there was no intention to permanently lose "his son" to the crucifiction- god did not sacrifice Jesus and did not suffer a permanent loss, so the passage from the bible above is invalidated, isn't it?

It seems to me that the whole of Christianity falls down here, if my logic is ok.

Your thoughts please.
Title: Re: Is god a fraud?
Post by: Naeem Xapha on April 11, 2018, 01:44:04 AM
In response to Joseph's post " Lambasting the Bible", I thought it necessary to correct myself on my post, above.

We should accord all due respect to others' beliefs, no matter how far removed they might be from our own. My post on the Bible's contradiction does not illicit any apology from me as I feel it is a valid observation. However, it should be made clear that pointing out inconsistencies/contradictions in a scripture does not detract from the respect we should afford to the followers of those scriptures. I am also critical of the Ahadith literature which so many live and die by, but I am mindful of the honoured place they occupy for so many. I respect their historical value, as with the Bible.

I stand corrected on my unnecessary post, after being further enlightened by Br. Joseph.