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Title: Abstention of Mary and Zacharia
Post by: miracle114 on September 11, 2019, 02:50:26 PM
Salaam
What did Mary and zacharia abstain from speaking?
What is the benefit of this abstention? Did Allah command this of them?

Kind regards and peace
Title: Re: Abstention of Mary and Zacharia
Post by: Truth Seeker on September 12, 2019, 12:15:34 AM
Salaam,

Regarding Mary, she was in the throngs of labour, and in order to avoid any potential questions being asked of her from other people, God asked her to abstain from talking to them.

For Zakaryia, he was so astounded that he was to be gifted with a child in his old age, that he asked God to give him a sign. This was to satisfy his heart and the sign from God to confirm this miracle, was that he was not going to be able to converse with anyone for 3 days.

This was not abstinence as was in he case of Mary, rather he would physically not be able to speak to anyone.
Title: Re: Abstention of Mary and Zacharia
Post by: miracle114 on September 26, 2019, 04:57:15 PM
Salaam brother
Thankw for the heads up

Kind regards
Title: Re: Abstention of Mary and Zacharia
Post by: Truth Seeker on September 26, 2019, 11:48:46 PM
No problem.
Just to let you know that I am a sister :D
Title: Re: Abstention of Mary and Zacharia
Post by: miracle114 on August 20, 2020, 09:35:54 PM
Salaam
I do apologise for my assumption.
Very embarrassed.

SALAAM
Title: Re: Abstention of Mary and Zacharia
Post by: Truth Seeker on August 27, 2020, 10:07:34 AM
It happens quite a lot so am used to it... No need to apologise :)
Title: Re: Abstention of Mary and Zacharia
Post by: good logic on August 27, 2020, 05:10:59 PM
Sister Truth Seeker,.
Mary and Zacharia both  were devoted to GOD Alone equally. No difference whatsoever in their gender as far as the spiritual self is concerned..

Often as humans, we see differences in ourselves. Differences of gender,race and status.
I am only talking in general here , not about you sister or anyone else.

When GOD  originally created, all His creations had an equal start as souls.( My understanding, since GOD is just and fair to all).Then all souls  shape their own destiny. (Put themselves in  other experiences or choose GOD s kingdom). For example Angels choose the latter

As humans, we agreed to the amana which put us in this experience (life on earth). We are still souls deep down,not males and females or races.... This requirement of gender in this life serve only the purpose of reproduction of generations. The body coupling is one of many other manifestations of GOD s creations.

The spiritual self has no gender. We are encouraged by GOD to rise above all bias and divisions of the "body/illusion" to live in harmony .
The only levels for the spirit is "how close does the soul gets to GOD"?
Adapting an attitude to "see all humans as the same spiritual being" not as different genders/ races/other... will make us rise above the harming divisions.
Sorry for the off topic everyone.
GOD bless you and all the brothers and sisters.
Peace.