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General Discussions / Re: Verse 2:34
« on: February 12, 2017, 11:25:20 PM »
assalamu alaikum brothers and sisters

well i should say i personally don't agree with the part that brother wakas wrote about iblees. i don't think we should necessarily conclude that iblees was a consequence of free will just because there is no mention of iblees prior to the creation of man. 

I don't know if you have done your research on the freewill of angels brother wakas, but it seems to me that if you come to the conclusion that they indeed have freewill then that automatically means iblees might be there (just like angels) before man was endowed with freewill.

In addition you say (quote from iblees was doing what he was expected to do, so he didn't break the rule, he was designed this way. How do you explain for example Surah Sad 71-78 and other similar ayat:


"And Satan will say when the matter has been concluded, "Indeed, Allah had promised you the promise of truth. And I promised you, but I betrayed you. But I had no authority over you except that I invited you, and you responded to me. So do not blame me; but blame yourselves. I cannot be called to your aid, nor can you be called to my aid. Indeed, I deny your association of me [with Allah ] before. Indeed, for the wrongdoers is a painful punishment."


"(Allah) said: "Get out from this disgraced and expelled. If any of them follow thee hell will I fill with you all."


[That] I will surely fill Hell with you and those of them that follow you all together."


assalamu alaikum

sharon I think you should do a comprehensive search among all the ayat that have "AL" article and used in the past tense, thus you may get a grasp on this subject. Just a suggestion :)

Assalamu alaikum

I did not say they will be resurrected and enter the Heaven. Simply i don't know for sure what's gonna happen. Those are my thoughts and Allah (swt) knows best.

assalamu alaikum

No, animals are not robots brother. I don't think it's nice to call them "robots". They are a part of the blessings Ar-Rahman gives us as mercy. We eat, we drink, we get clothes from them, they are companions to us, we love them and care for them, they carry us to long distances (camels, horses)... etc. They are created for a purpose in life. But we humans have consciousness! We become good or evil with the choices we make. We are responsible for every action we do or cause. So either we deserve the big reward or the big punishment. But the animals are not responsible for what they do like us. They are not the subjects of this "test".

But of course Allah (swt) knows best. Everything belongs to Him. So He decides what to do with them and He is never unjust. He is Al-Hakim, He gives the best decision and He is the most merciful.

salam all

Alhamdulillah. Thanks for your responses. These special bonus points, cashback is so common here. Almost all credit/debit cards have these kind of shopping points. One can try to avoid using these points or cashback but what I want to know is if these are haraam from Islamic point of view. I would like to know your thoughts on this.

What if someone buys you a meal, you know as a gesture... And you somehow know that this person gets interests and doesn't avoid it. What about eating that meal ? Would you kindly refuse it ? What would you do ?

General Discussions / Re: Don't hear any sinful speech in heaven
« on: January 24, 2017, 08:25:25 PM »
salam sharon

That story itself in the Quran is not sinful speech. The purpose of that story is to remind us about how a person can go too far and say such terrifying things. The story itself isn't sinful speech. Otherwise, "reading" it here would be a sinful act or haram ! So, "reading" about the sinful actions of those nations, is not sin by itself, unless you approve what those people did.

General Discussions / Bonus points (cashback bonus) from credit card ?
« on: January 24, 2017, 05:58:02 AM »
Salamun alaikum brothers and sisters,

Do you think cashback rewards (money or shopping bonus points etc.) in credit/debit cards are permissible in Islam ? Does it count as "haram" money or "riba" ? What if the bank gives you this reward from the money it took from people under the name of "interest" ?

General Discussions / Re: clarification needed by joesph islam
« on: January 22, 2017, 06:12:17 AM »
salam sharon

İ understand your concerns but you must be patient when it comes to understanding the Quran. sometimes it takes much more time than you expect. you just seem to be in a hurry to get the correct answer right away. Please don't forget that everyone here on this forum is fallible. You must pray Allah (swt) to guide you and help you get the right answer that you seek. Be patient :) I know sometimes it's hard !

JazzakAllah khairan.

General Discussions / Re: arabic and verse 89:9
« on: January 19, 2017, 08:43:12 PM »
assalamu alaikum guys

To me, phrases like "did you not see?" or "do you not see?" in the Quran do not always  mean "literal" seeing. In some places, if not all, this phrase can also mean "do you not consider ?" or "did they not consider / realize" ?

Like in 71:15: "Do you not consider how Allah has created seven heavens in layers ? "

or maybe in 30:37: "Do they not see that Allah extends provision for whom He wills and restricts [it]? Indeed, in that are signs for a people who believe. "

maybe 46:33: "Do they not see that Allah , who created the heavens and earth and did not fail in their creation, is able to give life to the dead? Yes. Indeed, He is over all things competent."

So even if the Arabs did not see the ruins of those people, still no problem! This is my opinion on the subject. Only ALLAH (swt) knows the true meaning of ayat. May HE guide us to the right way.

General Discussions / Re: 18:108
« on: January 19, 2017, 06:01:17 AM »
salamun alaikum

I think this ayah simply explains the "never-ending" beauty of the Jannah, the Paradise. We will  (in sha Allah, Allah willing) be so happy in there that we will have no desire to leave that place. Of course ALLAH (swt) knows the true meaning of any ayah.

General Discussions / Re: Handshake or not ?
« on: December 28, 2016, 03:58:19 PM »
assalamu alaikum brothers and sisters,

From an Islamic point of view, I think the main criteria in relationships with the opposite gender applies to this situation as well. If you know that these forms of greeting (like handshaking, hugging etc) take you close to illegal / forbidden acts (zina), turn you on sexually, then you must keep yourself away from them.

"And do not approach unlawful sexual intercourse. Indeed, it is ever an immorality and is evil as a way." (17:32)

Discussions / Re: What to do about our brothers and sisters in Aleppo ?
« on: December 17, 2016, 04:30:48 AM »

brothers wanderer and hamzeh thanks for your comments.

brother wakas thanks for clearing that up. But with all due respect can i ask you then why this topic was not started by "Wakas" long before this tragedy received mainstream media attention ?

it's never too late to remind. we are brothers and sisters. they are dying under bombs, while war crimes are committed all over Syria. 400k, 500k maybe 600k, numbers are pointless. this is a genocide. we are all responsible. Here in Turkey, all local mosques have started aid campaigns. Something better than nothing Alhamdulillah.

"And what reason have you that you should not fight in the way of Allah and of the weak among the men and the women and the children, (of) those who say: Our Lord! cause us to go forth from this town, whose people are oppressors, and give us from Thee a guardian and give us from Thee a helper." (4:75)

"What is the matter with you that you do not help each other?" (37:25)

Discussions / Re: What to do about our brothers and sisters in Aleppo ?
« on: December 16, 2016, 04:26:33 PM »
salam all

brother wakas, i really can't understand the purpose and the harshness of your response. i wrote this to learn what my brothers and sisters in this forum think about the situation in Aleppo and what responsibilities they think we have about it.  Nearly 400.000 people died there and the number continues to rise. have you even watched the videos i posted and really nothing moved in your heart ?

Why are you asking these questions (especially the third one) while I'm asking a simple and sincere question about what can we do as Muslims ?

if you're "really" asking what's going on in Aleppo, please do your research.


Discussions / What to do about our brothers and sisters in Aleppo ?
« on: December 16, 2016, 04:26:04 AM »
Assalamu alaikum

I couldn't find any questions or topics about Aleppo here. I don't know if it's forbidden or inappropriate to talk about this concerning the forum policy. I hope it's not. Because we cannot overlook one of the biggest massacres in the human history if we identify ourselves as Muslims.

But I really want to learn your opinions on this crisis especially from a Quranic point of view. Just one simple question:

If we keep silent on this, if we keep looking away, if we don't do anything to help our brothers and sisters who are in desperate need of any help, then how are we going to answer to Allah (swt) ?

What do you think ?

Two short videos about the situation of Aleppo and what can we do about it.

How are we going to answer to the question that is the title of the first video ?

 Warning: Graphic Images.

Salam folks

About 2:159-160 i partially agree with brother wanderer here. yes it's not about preaching and spreading directly, but indirectly it is related to "spreading the truth, revealing what is hidden".

It may be referring to Jews and Christians of the past, but we should ask the question: "Why did ALLAH (swt) tell us about this ? What should we extract from this past event ?" Obviously it is a message for us. Because it is highly likely that next generations will have those kind of people who conceal the clear ayat of ALLAH (swt) , letting people stay in error, not letting them know the truth.

Don't we see people who idolise their imams, sheikhs, ancestors today ? When you remind them the ayat of ALLAH (swt) do they listen to you ? So what if they try to teach their deviant thoughts to innocent people ? or should I ask: "what if they did this in front of you and you stayed silent then (and afterwards), you didn't want to get involved at all so you let him teach wrong ideas about ALLAH (swt) or Islam ?" Don't you think it's one of those times the truth must be spoken ?

"O you who believe! Whoever from among you turns back from his religion (Islam), Allah will bring a people whom He will love and they will love Him; humble towards the believers, stern towards the disbelievers, fighting in the Way of Allah, and never afraid of the blame of the blamers. That is the Grace of Allah which He bestows on whom He wills. And Allah is All-Sufficient for His creatures' needs, All-Knower. "

May ALLAH (swt) make us courageous in those kinds of situations and may HE forgive us if we fail (cause we do, again and again).

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