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Discussions / Re: Sahih Muslim -Complete Hadith App
« on: December 12, 2014, 10:28:41 PM »
Dear iamqasim,

Please do not use this forum for advertising purposes. Also please note that this is a 'Quran-centric' academic forum and not a 'Hadith-based' forum.

Thanks

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Islamic Duties / Re: To Kneel or to Bow down?
« on: November 22, 2014, 10:32:22 AM »
Post restored as per brother Joseph's request.


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General Discussions / Re: How can unity be achieved ?
« on: July 28, 2014, 01:49:50 AM »
Thank you Good Logic and we are happy to allow the post you have written so that you can publicly clarify your position and are happy that you are prepared to take our warnings  for the future. This is what we expect from thoughtful and peaceful individuals like you.

This matter is now closed and we hope that we can move on with good discussions that this forum is very fortunate to have.

Thank you all!

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General Discussions / Re: How can unity be achieved ?
« on: July 27, 2014, 09:03:47 PM »
Dear Ahmad,

Without meaning to offend you, do you really think we take removal of posts lightly here on this forum? If you are not aware of the discussions or investigations we have done, then why do you question it? We politely question you, have you been given the responsibility to moderate or do we have to publicly explain our decisions to you when it does not concern you? No one is forced to write on this forum and they do this by choice by acknowledging to go by by this forum's rules and not some others.

Now to your comment:

When I read it I found that it was logical and actually contained some truth. What if he is not advertising another's scholar opinion and its his opinion and he believes that its true. (Even if its similar to another scholar's opinion).

In the post that you refer to, Good Logic wrote:

"Many sectarian and religious titles have been invented by humans over the years.
 It is ironic and unfortunate that such fake titles have been gradually taking part in human history and culture.
They have been endorsed by scholars and have become officially established in documentaries and text books for all generations."


Now find the exact paragraph here: http://submission.org/friday_one_religion_many_titles.html

Are these Good Logic's words or the indiscriminate verbatim use of material from the submitter's site without references?

Another example from the same post, Good Logic wrote:

"This reminder is a straightforward acknowledgement of the only message and the only "deen" that is authorized and approved by GOD!?
Qoran recognizes many of the tribes and communities that received the guidance through different messengers and scriptures.
 Those communities are given titles and/or descriptions in Qoran related to their prophets/ messengers, their geographical location or their genetic descent.

 The titles of these different communities were not supposed to establish different unauthorized "deens" or sects as propagated and fed to the media and to the early and later human generations. "


Now find the exact paragraph here: http://submission.org/friday_one_religion_many_titles.html

Are these Good Logic's words or the indiscriminate verbatim use of material from the submitter's site without references?

In another post here: http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=1325.msg6185#msg6185

Good Logic wrote:

"Contrary to common belief, the "Original Sin" was not Adam's violation of God's law when he ate from the forbidden tree.
 The original sin was our failure to uphold God's absolute authority during the Great Feud.
If the human person convinces his or her jinn companion to denounce that original sin, and uphold God's absolute authority, both creatures are redeemed to God's eternal kingdom on the Day of Judgment.
 But if the jinn companion convinces the human being to uphold Satan's idolatrous views, then both creatures are exiled forever from God's kingdom. "


This is word to word from Rashad Khalifa's Appendix 7 below:

http://www.masjidtucson.org/quran/appendices/appendix7.html

Are these Good Logic's words or the indiscriminate use of Rashad Khalifa's words from his appendices that are taken without references and taken verbatim?

In another post, Good Logic wrote: http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=1325.msg6193#msg6193

"Because our life in this world is a series of tests designed to expose our polytheistic ideas, idol worship is the only unforgivable offence (4:48, 4:116).
 The world is divinely designed to manifest our decision to uphold either God's absolute authority, or Satan's idolatrous views (67:1-2).  Only those who are totally certain about God's absolute authority are redeemed (26:89)."

 
He then said: "This is my understanding."

Please see the exact paragraph word for word taken from Rashad' Khalifa's Appendix 7 here:

http://submission.org/App7.html

Are these Good Logic's words or the indiscriminate use of Rashad Khalifa's words from his appendices that are taken without references and taken verbatim?

We find such examples not throughout this one post, but in many of his posts and thus he was warned. Can we kindly ask you not to question the reasons why we have made a certain decision especially when you do not know the reasons behind our decision. What you have done is rather than leaving the matter private between the moderators and Good Logic, where we have given him the reasons why, your questioning has caused this to become more public.

Any indiscriminate use of another's work especially verbatim and without references is not academic or just. We need to ensure that a particular viewpoint is not being peddled indiscriminately on this forum and members make use of their own thoughts, in their own words and if they do cite verbatim, then they use citations / references. 

This forum is not a place to just peddle a particular view regardless of the group. It is an opportunity for real meaningful discussions where all parties are open to learn from each other.

Thanks!

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General Discussions / Re: How can unity be achieved ?
« on: July 25, 2014, 06:17:11 PM »
Dear Good Logic,

Your last post has been removed.

It has been discovered that your last post has made use of indiscriminate material from the submitter's website.

This is in breach of the forum policy 2 (f) which states:

(f)     This forum must not be used as a platform for any form of indiscriminate advertising, whether it is with a view to promote another scholar's views or the views of a particular group of thinkers, especially when academic differences of opinion have been made clear.

Your other posts may also now be examined as will any potential future posts. It appears that you have also been making indiscriminate use of Appendices and material from the Masjid Tucson website (Rashad Khalifa's work).

Please do not contravene any forum policy. In particular, any indiscriminate use of material from the submitter’s (or 19ers) website, or the views of Rashad Khalifa, or the dissemination of indiscriminate views of this particular group will result in an instant ban. You have kindly been warned!

Thank you

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General Discussions / Re: Meaning of AR RAHMAN
« on: July 20, 2014, 10:10:07 PM »
UPDATE BY QM FORUM MODERATOR

20th July 2014

This thread is now closed and a direct link to this post is now available at the dedicated Q&A page.

http://quransmessage.com/articles/q&as%20FM3.htm

Thanks.

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General Discussions / Re: The meaning of "ZaKAt"
« on: June 28, 2014, 06:22:03 PM »
Anwar and Saba

This is your final warning and if you both continue with personal jibes in contravention of this forum's policy, you will be banned. No further warnings will be given. Comments of a personal nature which have no relevance to the content of the thread have been removed from the last few posts.

No one is forcing either of you to write on this forum. Respect this forum's policy and the expected level of conversation etiquettes. If you cannot adhere to the forum policy, please go and post your thoughts some place else.

No further warnings will be given to either of you!

Thanks!

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Islamic Duties / Re: prayer
« on: June 21, 2014, 07:27:06 PM »
Anwar,

Your posts are appreciated. However can you please avoid personal jibes against other members of this forum, such as accusing others of "Playing games" or comments to others such as being "narrow minded and dogmatic". Please kindly remain conscious of forum policy 2(b).

You have identified yourself as progod. Thank you. We note your free-minds profile here and your website here which is confirmed here as you being the author whose mission is to "Promote revival and reclaim the culture for Christ".

You are very welcome on this forum. However, please be aware that this forum will be governed by different forum rules which are probably more stringent than say the free-minds.org forum.

Thank you for your consideration.

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Women / Re: Prophet Mary
« on: June 03, 2014, 03:39:23 AM »
Sardar Miyan,

You have been told repeatedly not to ask for individuals to respond to particular posts. They will respond if they wish. Please resist doing this or in future your post will be removed and your account suspended!

Thanks

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Dear All,

As per Saba's post (now removed) please see links where Wakas has posted his article:

http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606088.msg347459#msg347459
http://www.salaatforum.com/index.php?id=6251

This thread is now closed as all sides have shared their perspectives.

Thanks

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General Discussions / Re: "Nasara" derived from Nazareth?
« on: May 22, 2014, 10:01:10 PM »
Dear Deliverance,

Your following post has been moved to a separate thread as a new topic.

http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=1263


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Discussions about the term 'Yahoud'
« on: Today at 09:22:31 AM »
 
Thanks for making my Picture about Nasara clearer.

Now i am about to know about the term"Yahoud" sometimes it is written without "YA " and is been shown as "HAdou" in sura 2:62 for example "إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ وَٱلَّذِينَ هَادُواْ "

Does "Hadu" come from the Prophet HUd or is it derived from Thunder (sons of Thunder?)

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General Discussions / Re: Does Paradise Already Exist?
« on: May 09, 2014, 10:04:03 PM »
Dear All,

Everyone has shared their opinions and some have expressed their intention to agree to disagree. The original questioner in the last post is also satisfied with the response.

Thank you all for their valued opinions. This thread is now closed.

Thanks

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Discussions / Re: Login problem
« on: May 09, 2014, 09:31:18 AM »
Dear Sardar Miyan,

No changes have been made to your account. Therefore the problem is most likely to do with the device or computer you are using. Are you clearing the internet cache etc? Please log in from a different device and see if the problem persists.

Thanks

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Islamic Duties / Re: Belief in entire Quran in totality
« on: May 03, 2014, 03:42:53 AM »
Dear Good Logic,

In future, please can we kindly ask you to remain careful of forum policy 2 (i) which states:

"(i)     Please keep an appropriate, consistent font size. Posts which overtly make use of full capitals will be removed."

Your font size has been modified from 18 to 14. However, in future, can you assure that you attempt to be mindful of the above.

Thanks

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Dear Saba,

Please can we ask that in future you attempt to keep your comments general if you can and not single out individuals if it is not completely relevant to the post. Some of your comments have been edited as discussed with you.

Thanks

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