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Islamic Duties / Re: What is the real meaning of sola/salat?
« on: April 07, 2014, 11:26:10 PM »
Dear All,

Everyone has expressed their position on this and made their intentions clear. This thread is now closed before it turns into a personal exchange.

Thanks

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Here is an example in Qoran:

-- Joseph-- Slipped up and put his trust on other than GOD.
12:42
He then said to the one to be saved "Remember me at your lord."* Thus, the devil caused him to forget his Lord, and, consequently, he remained in prison a few more years.

وَقالَ لِلَّذى ظَنَّ أَنَّهُ ناجٍ مِنهُمَا اذكُرنى عِندَ رَبِّكَ فَأَنسىٰهُ الشَّيطٰنُ ذِكرَ رَبِّهِ فَلَبِثَ فِى السِّجنِ بِضعَ سِنينَ


GOD said if one forgets , ask for forgiveness.

Salaam good logic, Where did you get the idea that prophet Joseph slipped up and put his trust in other than Allah???? As far as I can tell reading all the translations - it was one of the prisoners that forgot!!!! due to Satan's influence. !! Saba  :) ;D

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YUSUFALI: And of the two, to that one whom he consider about to be saved, he said: "Mention me to thy lord." But Satan made him forget to mention him to his lord: and (Joseph) lingered in prison a few (more) years.
PICKTHAL: And he said unto him of the twain who he knew would be released: Mention me in the presence of thy lord. But Satan caused him to forget to mention it to his lord, so he (Joseph) stayed in prison for some years.
SHAKIR: And he said to him whom he knew would be delivered of the two: Remember me with your lord; but the Shaitan caused him to forget mentioning (it) to his lord, so he remained in the prison a few years.
ASAD: And [thereupon Joseph] said unto the one of the two whom he considered saved: "Mention me unto thy lord [when thou art free]!" But Satan caused him to forget to mention [Joseph] to his lord, and so he remained in prison a few [more] years.

http://www.islamawakened.com/quran/12/42/default.htm


Dear All,

This topic has been split and moved to another thread. Please see below.

Prophet Joseph's Reliance on Allah
http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=1157

Thanks

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Can we please remind respected forum members to start a new thread if the topic is a little separate from the main purpose of the thread. Previous posts better dealt with as a new topic have been moved to a new thread below:

http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=1143.msg4985#msg4985

Thanks.

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Arman,

Brother Joseph has made it clear that he does not wish to engage with you any further on this and we urge you to remain conscious of 2(d) of the forum policy and point 7 of the conditions of debate.

Please feel free to respond to others on the thread openly but remaining conscious of point 7 mentioned above.

Thanks!

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Dear Saba,

Brother Joseph and those that help him moderate this forum do not mind who joins. However, every effort is made to avoid allowing those to join that may be 'internet trolls' or those that may be known to cause unnecessary arguments on other social platforms or have personal gripes against brother Joseph due to his stance on the Quran-centric approach and will only attempt to ridicule him.

We try our best to keep a level of academic decorum on this forum and will not tolerate personal accusations or judgments against others, especially against brother Joseph whose vast material this website contains. However, it is not always possible to filter. Having said that, people are given a chance here.

We all feel that the level of discussion on this forum is very high with very able, enlightened and wise readers.

We cannot confirm whether what you say is true, though it very well may be. However, this is not our concern here.

Given the way the debate was being carried out and brother Joseph's commitments, a moderated system needed to be devised going forward and discussions on the topic were temporarily curtailed. This was also important for any future discussions as there is no way that brother Joseph can respond to numerous critiques that someone wants to open up 'willy nilly' at one time.

The moderators felt that there were consistent breaches of forum rules and warnings were unheeded with contentious responses. 1 (a) was applied. However, it was brother Joseph's view that every opportunity be given to Khalid Zia to have a meaningful discussion. Therefore, once the conditions had been set which can be read below, brother Joseph responded to Khalid Zia to invite him cordially to continue his discussion keeping in mind the conditions but this offer was rejected with once again, unacceptable personal attacks being made against brother Joseph. We have been told that these attacks were responded to in 'no uncertain terms.' 

Therefore Khalid Zia is not welcome on this forum any longer.

Thanks!

Conditions: http://quransmessage.com/articles/debate%20FM3.htm

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This is an open question to all those that hold the traditional perspective. In particular, this question is for Khalid Zia to respond to.

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The tone of some of my comments were different....sorry!

Dear Optimist,

We are glad that you have apologized. That is very good of you. It is best that any exchange is kept on the side of academia and not 'sarcasm'. This will keep the standards of this forum up.

Thank you!

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Discussions / Re: Articles on this site
« on: December 08, 2013, 08:25:57 PM »
Dear 8pider

This site is predominantly in English and there is no officially approved translations of brother Joseph's articles or other content into other languages. However, many respected, kind brothers and sisters have translated different content on this site into other languages themselves so that the message can reach a wider audience. Please also feel free to translate any content into Arabic or another language if you can Insha'Allah.

The only request made is that a link is provided back to the original source of the English article or content.

Thank you

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Dear Hamzeh,

As Truth Seeker has mentioned, brother Joseph remains currently unavailable.

Please can we suggest that you continue to read his articles to understand his perspectives as you already seem to be doing. His articles are quite detailed so his opinions on a particular matter will be very openly shared.

Given brother Joseph's current commitments / schedule we cannot confirm when he will be able to respond.

You may also want to open up your questions to discuss with others if that also suits.

Thank you for your understanding

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General Discussions / Re: 4:43 intoxicated / overwhelmed by sleep?
« on: June 18, 2013, 01:28:18 AM »
Dear Sardar,

Please can you not repeat your requests. This is something we understand you have already been informed about.

If someone has any feedback and they want to share it, they will.


Thanks.

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Sorry Nura,

We meant no disrespect. However we do try to run a tight ship here. As you can imagine, there are all sorts that may attempt to disrupt the decorum of this forum so we try to keep tight control where we can.

Please don't mind, you are most welcome here. Apologies for any offence taken.

Thanks.

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Dear Nura

Your post has been deleted not only because you have appeared to simply dismiss the response that has been shared with you, you have also repeated many of your questions unnecessarily to which responses were given. It seems as you haven't even bothered to read the responses with any sincere intent. This is not acceptable especially when a member has spent time and effort in responding to your queries.

Can you please remain conscious of 2(C) of the forum policy in the future.

Thanks

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General Discussions / Re: 4:43 intoxicated / overwhelmed by sleep?
« on: June 15, 2013, 07:37:24 PM »
Dear Optimist / Abdul Samad

You have already been repeatedly warned and have also been temporarily banned for persistent and indiscriminate use of Parwez's works on this forum and breach of forum policy 2(f).

You are also on record for stating the following about Parwez:

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"He is now close to my life and I love this man After Allah and His Messengers......more than I love my family"

http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=452.msg1533#msg1533

Even brother Joseph has stated the following after numerous discussions with you.

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I also feel that it would be fruitless for me to make any counter to Parwez's works for individuals like your kind self as I feel you will not be open minded enough to welcome it. This is sadly my view hitherto given the many discussions I have had with you on this board on this matter thus far and your extreme bias towards Parwez in your own words.


http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=458.msg1578#msg1578

Therefore, the forum moderators feel that you have once again breached our understanding and posted Parwez's works under the pretense of 'scholarly' study and analysis.

We advise you, that whilst we do not mind occasional use of others works for discussion, this forum is not a platform to peddle the views of a particular scholar. This will not be tolerated.

Please ensure that this is the last time you post in this manner. Your own thoughts, works and analysis are very welcome, but not the indiscriminate use of Parwez's works as we feel you are far too biased towards his works and will not be able to accept any criticism objectively towards him.

This as you know, has already been made clear to you.

Thanks.

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General Discussions / Re: 9:61
« on: March 30, 2013, 09:01:52 PM »
Dear all -

The moderators have felt the views on this thread have now been exhausted. Therefore, we have decided to lock the thread.

Thank you all for participating.


This thread is now closed.

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General Discussions / Re: 9:61
« on: March 29, 2013, 12:25:10 AM »



Can we please remind all participants to remain civil with each other or this thread will be suspended. Thanks.

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