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Islamic Duties / Re: Best explanation i saw about salaat, ever.

« on: July 16, 2019, 06:19:44 AM »

Salaam,

True! God can guide people with or without scripture. God can also guide through the previous scriptures.

Yet, God sent down the Quran, the last scripture, with wisdom and enlightenment, as a beacon and a guide for all of humanity. And for all time to come. For Arabs and non-Arabs. And God has not reserved this light only for those who have mastered Arabic, leaving all those who do not know Arabic grappling in the dark. This is just an excuse made by the 'Ulama, both traditionalist and new-age, to claim exclusivist access to the Quran, and sell their fabricated theories.

Had We made it a Non-Arabic Quran, they would have surely said, its verses are not elucidated. Non-Arabic or Arabic, say, for those who are faithful, it is a guide and a healing. As for those who have no faith, there is deafness in their ears and they are blind. It is as though they are being called from a far away place. [41:44]

Obsession with intricacies of Arabic and its lexicon and grammar has become the new fad. This methodology of pretending not to know the meaning of Arabic words, creating a parallel language by claiming to be an "Arabic expert", ripping apart Quranic verses, phrases and words to shreds, and trying to reconstruct the meaning of words from this "jumbled mess" (thanks video!) is not very different from the methodologies of Qiyas, Ijthihad etc. that gave us Islamic Jurisprudence. The works of these new-age scholars are also secondary sources besides the Quran, and have be rejected according to 45:6.

Sorry for being this blunt, but I would be a hypocrite if I am critical of only the traditionalist secondary sources, and give a pass to the new age variants.

Quran is a simple book. Read it cover to cover, and God is its Teacher. No need for such gymnastics or secondary sources to "interpret" it. Quran is its own best interpretation (25:33).

Peace,
niaz

I am learning Arabic because there are no perfect translations. It doesn't mean i am going to understand the Quran if i know Arabic. That's why i ask God to make me understand It.

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General Discussions / Re: Why should we face towards the Kaaba(mecca) while praying ?

« on: July 16, 2019, 05:41:16 AM »

Sometimes i feel uncomfortable before starting the prayer because of this doubt in my mind.

Why should we bow and prostrate in a specific direction which directs towards a house built up of stones/bricks?

How i understand it is that prayer means to read the Quran and that we should yield and submit to Hes Message and face the Sacred Temple in Mecca through our whole life.

Facing here means that everything we learn form the Quran must first be implemented in Mecca at the Sacred Temple.

Such as feeding the poor through the sacrifices people can make at the Sacred Temple, the people who work in the Temple should then distribute the food because they know that place the best.

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General Discussions / Re: "Muhammad was not from Mecca" by Sam Garrans

« on: July 13, 2019, 05:24:26 PM »

Salaam Br. Wakas,

Can you please let me know your thoughts (summary) on where Masjid al-Haram (Kaba) is and whether you agree with the subject "Muhammad was not from Mecca" or not?
The forum links your provided are taxing and confusing to follow.

Thanks,
Student.

Read 48:24 and the verses before it and after it.

The Sacred Temple is in Mecca.

People like Sam Garrans maybe even have their own agenda. He comes with a lot of weird conspiracies while he is selling hes books. I wonder if he is a hypocrite.

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Islamic Duties / Re: Best explanation i saw about salaat, ever.

« on: July 11, 2019, 07:53:17 PM »

If we can't use the root dictionaries, then what should we use? The books written by people such as bukhari or shaykh ala shaykh?

Common sense.

Quran's message is very simple. Its commandments are very simple. It is accessible in any language. All we have to do is "hear and obey".

Using simple, common, obvious, evident meanings that are clear in most translations. And not splitting hairs and asking irrelevant questions (like Moses' people did in the event of slaughtering the heifer).

God is not a racist, and has not made mastering Arabic a prerequisite for salvation. If that was true, then the greatest Arabic scholars have been traditionalists, and not the internet wannabes thinking they mastered Arabic by poring through lexicons. They have become modern day Islamic Jurists, creating their own new age Hadith and Sunnah. In the process, the Quran's message has been rendered into a joke.

Sorry for the outrage.

Peace,
niaz

We indeed do not even have to read the Quran to know what is good if we follow the Law within us. I don't believe that we can only enter Paradise by reading the Quran. There are many other Scriptures on earth which are Good for Salvation as well. Even if you don't read any Scripture, and lived a good life, then why would God punish you for that?

But what i am saying is that we need to master the language of the Book if we want to follow It correctly.

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Islamic Duties / Re: Moon Sighting

« on: July 11, 2019, 12:03:33 AM »

Asalamu 3alykum Dear Moderators, if you may delete my previous post of this topic that would be great as it was not clear. Thank you

Asalamu 3alykum brothers and sisters

As I been searching through the internet I been finding conflicting testimonies from different websites on the moon sighting of the new moon crescent.

For example Saudi Arabia said they called their authorities yesterday June 2, 2019 to start the sighting on June 3, 2019 and also asked anyone of the locals to provide their testimonies. So on June 3, 2019 the officials according to websites and many platforms have concluded that they saw the crescent of the moon.

On other websites such as www.moonsighting.com they show that their is NO sighting from Saudi Arabia and most other countries if not all. "Saudi Arabia:
Not Seen: MCW member Mr Abdul Kadir Mulla from Jeddah reported: No Moon has been sighted in Madina Munawwara on 3rd June."

They also show that for example USA, Canada have NOT seen the moon, however most people if not all I know are celebrating EID tomorrow. Tuesday June 4, 2019.

www.crescentwatch.org is another website that says "All reports thus far have been negative (the moon was not sighted), including ones from numerous highly experienced sighters across Asia, the Middle East, Africa, and South America (all where naked-eye sightings were considered extremely improbable). We are continuing to receive and assess reports now in North America and will post updates here accordingly."


I'm not sure what is going on, but I find it a bit confusing. If the websites are being biased and choosing their own authorities then something is wrong, if they are telling the truth then again something is wrong with the other authorities in other countries. Not sure.

I'm not to sure if those who sight the moon in a era like today should at least try to post a picture of the sighting of the moon if they claim to see it?


From where I am from the people are celebrating Eid tomorrow but the moon seems to be NOT seen according to the websites crescentwatch.com and moonsighting.com. I however went out with my little knowledge of where to look and I did not think I seen anything but again I'm not familiar with the process.

I mentioned this to some friends and it seemed to stir up some controversy which I really don't want to. So might have to fast in secret tomorrow as I don't know why but people take it seriously if you tell them to think.

I wonder if I'm going to have to start sighting the moon for myself and see how the process works.

I guess maybe Ramadan is an individual gathering as everyone should sight the moon for themselves till the end of the month if this is how the world is going to be where some countries seem just to declare it without proof(maybe there is but I have not seen them on English websites) and some countries which seem like they are celebrating the EID seem to show no proof either of the moon crescent and the English websites confirm no sighting yet despite that are still celebrating EID.

2:185(part).... whoever of you witnesses the month shall fast it...

It maybe that every house hold should observe their own moon sighting, which leads me to the thought that why the EID celebration is not stipulated in the Quran. God knows best

It seems like the sighting has turned into politics

Crescentwatch.org

Moonsighting.com

Egypt also seemed to have differances some seen it some did not
http://www.egypttoday.com/Article/6/71179/Moon-sighting-for-Shawwal-When-will-2019-Eid-al-Fitr

Salam

Have you ever wondered if we should follow a luni-solar calendar instead? Also, why should we uphold sectarian feasts, there is nothing in the Quran about this eid al fitr.

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Islamic Duties / Re: When is Ramadan, and when are the other 3 Holy months of Pilgrimage?

« on: July 11, 2019, 12:01:04 AM »

2 read the context, 9:81 is happening in one of the four sacred months.

How did you confirm that?


When there is no compulsion in religion(2:256), WHY God commands to kill/fight the polytheists after the sacred full moons/months have passed?

9:5
"So when the sacred full moons/months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them, and take them, and surround them, and stand against them at every point..."

If you read chapter 9 you will find out that it's talking about an event happening in one of the sacred months when their enemies didn't follow the peace treaty which is 4 months long.
 
Only after they attacked first. Lets say Iran attacked Saudi Arabia in one of the four holy months. Then we should defense. But shouldn't make an offensive attack. When the four months are over, we can attack them just like they attacked us.

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Islamic Duties / Re: Best explanation i saw about salaat, ever.

« on: July 10, 2019, 11:56:18 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4APNPrfRORQ

Some verses are presented for your acknowledgements,

"Indeed, I am Allah. There is no deity except Me, so worship Me and establish prayer for My remembrance." Quran 20:14
In this verse, the word "fa-uʿ'bud'nī" comes from triliteral root ʿayn bā dāl (ع ب د), which means 'to worship' in verb form.

"Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are firm against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating, seeking bounty from Allah and [His] pleasure. Their mark is on their faces from the trace of prostration. That is their similitude in the Torah. And their similitude in the Injeel, is like a seed (which) sends forth its shoot then strengthens it, then it becomes thick and it stands upon its stem delighting the sowers - that He (may) enrage by them the disbelievers. Allah has promised those who believe and do righteous deeds among them forgiveness and a great reward." Quran 48:29.

Please be advised that, a root meaning must never be considered devoid of context. Words have meanings in certain contexts.

See this topic for more discussions, http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=90.0.

The brother knows Arabic. I am still learning it.

I never heard a better explanation from the Quran about bowing and prostrating. In Arabic he said those words mean to yield and submit. 

He explained it so well in Arabic.

Instead of bowing and prostrating i am now yielding and submitting. I think the translations are off here.

Please be notified that I already have studied on 'the brother' from video years ago. For your better understanding with ease and simple, I am replying you simply.

'The brother' from video uses the root Arabic word 'directly' for finding any sort of renditions or meanings which is called 'root definition'. In general, he does not use any grammar, he does not use any 'prefix or suffix' & context based meanings. His dictionary does not have any vocabulary except root word in a language. As a result, alien or baseless interpretation has been occurred. But that is a wrong step for gaining proper knowledge of a language. Every language have vocabularies, grammar, context based meanings or renditions and root word. For example, English word 'March' refers to a dedicated month of a year, it can also mean 'walk in a military manner with a regular measured tread' in verb form & also it can mean to 'an act or instance of marching' as noun & also it can mean to 'the steady and inevitable development or progress of something' as noun, but its origin or root word is same, which is, 'marche+mark (Germanic)'. Similar theme also goes with Quranic texts as well as Arabic language. Hope that clarifies.

You disagree with him about what?

If we can't use the root dictionaries, then what should we use? The books written by people such as bukhari or shaykh ala shaykh?

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Islamic Duties / Re: Prayer

« on: July 10, 2019, 11:36:24 PM »

Hello,
   I understand that standing up and sujood are prescribed on us in the Quran as a part of prayer. But my question is does the Quran ever state why this is how we should pray? I guess essentially what I am asking is why are these required and not simply just praying in your head or something similar 5 times throughout the day?

This is a good detailed explanation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4APNPrfRORQ

The roekoeh and soejoed mean to yield and submit to the Message of the Quran while reading it. Reading the Quran is the Quranic prayer. 2 times a day, at fadjr and at isha.