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General Discussions / Re: Prophet Abraham asked to sacrifice his son?
« on: August 08, 2020, 04:20:45 AM »
Salam Athman
The context of any verse should not be taken from just that one verse, but from all the relevant Quranic input about the subject at hand.
But also from other verses that shed light on the same subject. If we shut the door and seek the truth from only one verse and those around it, we would be depriving ourselves of the more complete truth, which is often completed in other verses.
To conclude that the son in the dream (37:102) must be Isaac because Abraham prayed for a righteous son (37:100) and only Isaac is described as righteous in verses from 100 to 112 is to shut our eyes of other Quranic verses that complete the meaning and give a complete picture.
Ishmael is described as righteous in the Quran (21:85-86).
When we take all verses in consideration we can see that it is wrong to insist that the son in the dream could only be Isaac.
We would know that it could also be Ishmael because he was also righteous, and so would also be a fulfilment of Abraham's prayer in 37:100 for a righteous son.
The truth is what matters, and the truth does not have to be given in one verse only or in one Sura.
Are you saying the truth does not matter unless it is mentioned in Sura 37?
Are you serious? So what if it is another Sura?
What matters is that the prayer of Abraham for a righteous son does not have to be Isaac because Ishmael was also righteous, so his prayer was answered in Ishamel as well as Isaac ...
why does all the details have to be all in one Sura?
Anyway, here are other important verses about the same subject:
The following verse confirms that Ishmael was also a prophet and not only Isaac:
[19:54] And mention in the Book Ishmael. He was true to his promise, and he was a prophet messenger.
And the next verse is quite important in confirming the order of birth of Abraham's 2 sons.
God granted Abraham his son Ishmael first, then came Isaac, i.e. Ishmael was the first son
[14:39] Praise be to God for granting me, despite my old age, Ishmael and Isaac. My Lord is the Hearer of prayers.
If Isaac came first, Abraham would have said "Isaac and Ishmael":
Are you also going to say these pieces of information do not matter because we are looking only at Sura 37?
It is Ishmael .... the words in 37:112 are a new subject - after God told us about the dream of Abraham with Ishmael , God then tells us a New event in 37:112 , which was the coming of Isaac.
They are TWO DIFFERENT EVENTS
the first word in 37:112 is ''AND'' WE GAVE HIM THE NEWS ..... the word AND means and a new event.
God does not repeat the same truth in the narration in adjacent verses - if the son in 37:101 was the same son in 37:112 , God would need to repeat it.
Salam.
Inayah
The context of any verse should not be taken from just that one verse, but from all the relevant Quranic input about the subject at hand.
But also from other verses that shed light on the same subject. If we shut the door and seek the truth from only one verse and those around it, we would be depriving ourselves of the more complete truth, which is often completed in other verses.
To conclude that the son in the dream (37:102) must be Isaac because Abraham prayed for a righteous son (37:100) and only Isaac is described as righteous in verses from 100 to 112 is to shut our eyes of other Quranic verses that complete the meaning and give a complete picture.
Ishmael is described as righteous in the Quran (21:85-86).
When we take all verses in consideration we can see that it is wrong to insist that the son in the dream could only be Isaac.
We would know that it could also be Ishmael because he was also righteous, and so would also be a fulfilment of Abraham's prayer in 37:100 for a righteous son.
The truth is what matters, and the truth does not have to be given in one verse only or in one Sura.
Are you saying the truth does not matter unless it is mentioned in Sura 37?
Are you serious? So what if it is another Sura?
What matters is that the prayer of Abraham for a righteous son does not have to be Isaac because Ishmael was also righteous, so his prayer was answered in Ishamel as well as Isaac ...
why does all the details have to be all in one Sura?
Anyway, here are other important verses about the same subject:
The following verse confirms that Ishmael was also a prophet and not only Isaac:
[19:54] And mention in the Book Ishmael. He was true to his promise, and he was a prophet messenger.
And the next verse is quite important in confirming the order of birth of Abraham's 2 sons.
God granted Abraham his son Ishmael first, then came Isaac, i.e. Ishmael was the first son
[14:39] Praise be to God for granting me, despite my old age, Ishmael and Isaac. My Lord is the Hearer of prayers.
If Isaac came first, Abraham would have said "Isaac and Ishmael":
Are you also going to say these pieces of information do not matter because we are looking only at Sura 37?
It is Ishmael .... the words in 37:112 are a new subject - after God told us about the dream of Abraham with Ishmael , God then tells us a New event in 37:112 , which was the coming of Isaac.
They are TWO DIFFERENT EVENTS
the first word in 37:112 is ''AND'' WE GAVE HIM THE NEWS ..... the word AND means and a new event.
God does not repeat the same truth in the narration in adjacent verses - if the son in 37:101 was the same son in 37:112 , God would need to repeat it.
Salam.
Inayah