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#21
General Discussions / Escatologie
May 11, 2014, 11:22:36 PM
Every time when i hear bad News of an uprising crisis which could end into War,i fall in the an prossec of sorrow and i am worry about could happen.This mood brings me always to read sources of escatology which Messages is drawing about an escalation of the Situation which will lead to a worldwar.According to this prophecies Jesus will return after ther worldwar.

I know there is no proof of Jesus return in Quran but there are lot of ahadith which dealing with the subject of "the last Age we are living in" and about the signs of the endtime,and some of them are very convincible that we are living in the last Age.

It is a very old Story of an coming Saviour who will fade away all unjust und will help the poor People,it was belived by the old Egyptians ,in Mesopotamia and the Zoroastrians belived in such a Figur who is comin at the endtime.

Some say that Jesus was preaching the coming of the end of the world within his followers but i think this was propagated by Paul who corrupted the Picture of Jesus.

My question:All this stories of the coming saviour,who is fighting against his component and that we are living in the last Age,and worldwar3 is close to us.Is it just to keep the People not to do bad things and to pay their taxes to the synogogue,church,mosque etc. 

What advice could you give to People who are gullible and belive the end of the world is close.

regards
#22
General Discussions / Exile from Paradies
May 11, 2014, 12:00:24 AM
Salam all,

While i was reading the story of Paradies,i had to reject my belief that Adam and his spouse were the only one who had to go down to earth.
In 2:35-36 there is the use of the Dual for Adam and his female Partner,but in 2:38 when God said to them to leave ,here you find no Dual,and he is adressing to a gathering to go out of here.
I believe that he was adressing all beeings Adam and his spouse,Iblies and his follower of the other ghost and the Angles.
In 7:18 we see that Satan has to leave heaven and Paradies and follow Adam and his offspring.
In 7:27we read that Satan has followers of his kind of the Djinn,because Iblies is a Djinn see 18:50
And we know that the human is accompanied by writing-angles so the Angles where ordered to leave Paradies too.
Thats why the Angles will be questioned on Judgment Day see 34:40

So finally not Adam and Eve alone were expelled from Heaven alle beeings described above had to leave too.

Regards
#23
I want to ask what does the arabic term "Nasar" mean and why is it used for christians.Is it because of the town of Nazareth where he lived,although some Historians claim that Jesus did not come from there.?

salam aleikoum
#24
General Discussions / AD-Djabal and AT-Thour
May 03, 2014, 05:03:25 AM
I want to finish my Research about Noah with the landing of the Arche.
Maybe you´ve heard that some years ago turkish and chinese evangelists archaeologist have found some wooden structures on the Mount Ararat in the east of Turkey.This Mountain is over 5000meters high!
We find in the quran the passage that the Arche landed on"Djabal Djudi",some located this place near the Ararat,its a Hill and not a massiv Mountain.
No my question is,does "Djabal" mean Hill and "Thour" is the proper Translation of Mountain?

Regards
#25
Islamic Duties / Nighttime activity
April 29, 2014, 04:11:05 AM
Salam,

A few days ago i had a Dispute with my brother in law Topic of it was working in the night.I said to him that god dont want us to work in the night instead we should rest.He said there is no Prohibition in the Quran about working in the night instead he quoted an ayat were we are encourage to make "IBADa" in one part of the night .I said you can´t compare it with work with cost of living at the he came with an hadith where "the Prophet scolded one guy who was only sitting in mosque and listend to the Prophet whereas his brother hardly visited the mosque and the Prophet because he was working and the Prophet said that working brother is better than him"...
And then he said to me if everybody would think like you,the Society would collapse.

What is your opinion on working nights.

regards
#26
General Discussions / Passengers of the Arche
April 24, 2014, 04:08:31 AM
Salam to all,
I used to think that the People who followed Noah into the Boat where only his Family,most christians ,jews and also think learn that Story,that the Person who were saved are :Noah (pbuh)
                                                                              his wife
                                                                              his sons (Ham,Sam,Japhet)
In the Quran we read that one son of Noah died in the flood and the wife of Noah was described as equal to Lots wife 66:10(maybe she died also in the flood)but there were other persons with them.                                                                             
Sura 11
At length behold! There came Our Command, and the fountains of the earth gushed forth! We said: "Embark therein of each kind two, male and female, and your family except those against whom the Word has already gone forth and the Believers." But only a few believed with him. (40)
#27
General Discussions / Noah´s Age
April 21, 2014, 04:55:01 AM
Salam to all,

I want to put the Age of Noah to discussion,did he really reached the "biblical"Age of nearly 1000years?

Sura 29:13 "(13) We (once) sent Noah to his people, and he tarried among them a thousand years less fifty: but the Deluge overwhelmed them while they (persisted in) sin. (14) "

If we look in arabic we fin that there a two different words used for year "sana" and "aman",is it by accident that there is the usage of two forms or does the author want say that only one is meant as a normal time ?

In Sure 2  :96   People want to live 1000 years
    Sura 70:4    1 Day in Heaven=50.000 years on earth
    Sura 32:5    1 Day in Heaven=1000    years on earth
    Sure 97:3    1 Day better than 1000   month

Today we hear the youth when they want to descibe a Long period using 1000 like "...i waited 1000 years for you ;...i`ve said it 1000 times;...1000 People were waiting at the Counter"

So is the thousand in 29:14 to be understand like a Long period like "We sent Noah to his People,and he tarried among his People for a Long period until fifty years..."

I don´t want to doubt the possibility of a Long age given by God but if he was 1000 years among his People than the Ayat in sura 23:24 would not say that their ancestors did not hear about his Message.


peace
#28
General Discussions / Who are "We"
March 03, 2014, 03:12:55 AM
Salam at all,

Can someone explain who is mention with the pronoun "We"in the Quran which is often used.Is it meant for the angles or are humans also identified with it?

wa salam
#29
Discussions / Corrupted Dreams
February 12, 2014, 08:55:27 PM
Salam all,

Im still in the process of leaving my islamic secondary education to find true understanding of Islam.Like me a lot of people grew up with a certain picture of the devil,that is drawing Satan as something who will led you astray if you dont follow the "Sunnah"/Quran.This is underlined by a hadith that is saying the Devil can´t immitate the Prophet,meaning if you dream about someone with Turban,Beard and Long clothing than this Dream is true and it is indeed the Prophet.
With this in my mind i always thought that Dreams can be corrupted by the devil which another hadith seemed to back up,which goes like this :if you wake up by a Nightmare or bad feelings in the dream than spit 3 times over your left shoulder with saying dua.
Now i was reading in the Quran that when we sleep our Soul is beein lifted up to the Lord like the dead persons with the exception that we (Persons who are sleeping)are coming back to "Life".And if the dream can be interferred by satan how could Abraham(pbuh)sure that his Vision about slaughtering his son is from the Allmighty?And the people in Sura Yusuf wouldn´t belive Yusuf(pbuh)after he had descibed the meanig of their dreams and it would gone bad for one of them.
Please share your thoughts.

regards
#30
General Discussions / Qatala in the Quran
February 07, 2014, 05:37:43 PM
Salam,

The word qatala is used very often and mostly it is used for "to kill" while other meanings could be the stand for it because it has several meanings.

For example the Translation of vers 53 "Sura The Cow"(53) And remember Moses said to his people: "O my people! Ye have indeed wronged yourselves by your worship of the calf so turn (in repentance) to your Maker and slay yourselves (the wrong-doers); that will be better for you in the sight of your Maker." Then He turned toward you (in forgiveness); for He is Oft-returning Most Merciful. (54) "

translated by Jusuf ali

the translation slay yoursel or in other translations kill the wrongdoers from you does not make sense if go on reading "...that will better for you...then he turned toward you;for he is oftreturning..."if you have killed yourself or the other wrongdoers there is no Need to turn toward someone who is already dead so a better Translation would be:

"...and struggle yourself;that will be better for you in the sight of you Maker..."

This thread should be used for all the false qatala=KILL verses in the Quran feel free to search .

regards
#31
Islamic Duties / Prohibition of pictures
February 06, 2014, 02:56:33 AM
A common and open theme is the probition of pictures in Islam although there is no one Vers which is dealing with it Muslims following this Dogma.The secondary sources of Islam are full of it and the main statement is that pictures of living beeing is prohibited wether you draw nor hang it in your home.
I probably found in the story of Joseph a hint that pictures are allowed.

Surah Yusuf

"And the king said: Bring him unto me that I may attach him to my person. And when he had talked with him he said: Lo! thou art to-day in our presence established and trusted. (54) He said: Set me over the storehouses of the land. Lo! I am a skilled custodian. (55) Thus gave We power to Joseph in the land. He was the owner of it where he pleased. We reach with Our mercy whom We will. We lose not the reward of the good. (56)"


In his Position we get to know that he has to manage the stock of the state and to wright everthing down.As you know the acient egyptians wrote with Hieroglyphs and the numbers had also that form.
http://www.discoveringegypt.com/pics/numbers.jpg

There are also drawings of the Prophet Mohamed showing his face and there used to be pictures inside the Kaabah.

regards

Source:
,,Hieroglyph-Numbers",http://discoveringegypt.com/egyptian-mathematics-numbers-hieroglyphs.htm,05.02.2014
#32
General Discussions / Wine in the Quran
January 28, 2014, 07:07:16 PM
Salam all,

A popular Topic for islamcritics is the discrepance of Wine in the Quran,they took the quotes of the "Prohibition" of wine and the Use of it in the hereafter.This is indeed a subject one had to ponder on,so if checked what it is about really behind.

For Example:
Chapter"The Cow"
"They question thee about strong drink and games of chance. Say: In both is great sin, and (some) utility for men; but the sin of them is greater than their usefulness. And they ask thee what they ought to spend. Say: that which is superfluous. Thus Allah maketh plain to you (His) revelations, that haply ye may reflect. "(219)

Chapter 47:15
" A similitude of the Garden which those who keep their duty (to Allah) are promised: Therein are rivers of water unpolluted, and rivers of milk whereof the flavour changeth not, and rivers of wine delicious to the drinkers, and rivers of clear-run honey; therein for them is every kind of fruit, with pardon from their Lord. (Are those who enjoy all this) like those who are immortal in the Fire and are given boiling water to drink so that it teareth their bowels? (15)"

"...rivers of wine delicious for the drinkers..."This is what the Critics use for an example of the coruption in the Quran.But when you read all the verses of the hereafters drink,you came to another Picture of it.

In Chapter 37:46 we read about the effect the Drink of the rivers will have in heaven.
"(44) A cup from a gushing spring is brought round for them, (45) White, delicious to the drinkers, (46) Wherein there is no headache nor are they made mad thereby. (47) "

wasalam

#33
Discussions / Black cat
January 27, 2014, 02:19:56 AM
hello,
I would like to appeal with to a subject which is spread even today very much,namely the superstition of the misfortune by a black cat.
The subject was or is still in the western literature and also in modern films to symbolize the Bad, besides, the black cat is mostly used there because a lot of fairy tales were told their negative influence on People around , but also black dogs and crows are offered as a representation of the devil.
This superstition was one reason for subjugation of the Afro-Americans and its been not long ago when they got equal rights in Country they live.
To be honest who of ourselves has(had)not a bad feeling when a black cat crosses the street? some of the beliver of this Superstition turn around and leave quite fast the street and go somewhere else long because they have more fear of misfortune as to trust in the power of the creator.
In the Quran it is one of his signs that his creation is colourfull,in sura 30 "Ar-Rum":"And of His signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. Lo! herein indeed are portents for men of knowledge. (22)
I think this can be transfered to animals too.



peace to all
#34
Women / Old women in sura 2
January 09, 2014, 03:12:54 AM
Salam ladies,
While i was reading chapter the Cow i came to a part which made me sceptic about the translation,see:

"Surah Al-Baqara"

(282)"...if two men be not (at hand) then a man and two women, of such as ye approve as witnesses, so that if one of the two erreth (through forgetfulness) the one of them will remind."

This sounds discriminating and denigrate the women so i looked up every part in the quran at hand,wich mentions women in the Translation.The words in arabic where not all the same there are words to describe the gender itself,words for spouses,girls and mutual ladies.
The arabic word used above is ٱمۡرَأَتَانِ                                                                                                                               

And i came to know that it is used for women beyond her Menopause look:
Sure 19
"(4) Lo! I fear my kinsfolk after me, since my wife is barren. Oh, give me from Thy presence a successor (5) Who shall inherit of me and inherit (also) of the house of Jacob. And make him, my Lord, acceptable (unto Thee). (6) (It was said unto him): O Zachariah! Lo! We bring thee tidings of a son whose name is John; we have given the same name to none before (him). (7) He said: My Lord! How can I have a son when my wife is barren and I have reached infirm old age? "
" وَإِنِّى خِفۡتُ ٱلۡمَوَٲلِىَ مِن وَرَآءِى وَڪَانَتِ ٱمۡرَأَتِى عَاقِرً۬ا فَهَبۡ لِى مِن لَّدُنكَ وَلِيًّ۬ا (٥) يَرِثُنِى وَيَرِثُ مِنۡ ءَالِ يَعۡقُوبَ‌ۖ وَٱجۡعَلۡهُ رَبِّ رَضِيًّ۬ا (٦) يَـٰزَڪَرِيَّآ إِنَّا نُبَشِّرُكَ بِغُلَـٰمٍ ٱسۡمُهُ ۥ يَحۡيَىٰ لَمۡ نَجۡعَل لَّهُۥ مِن قَبۡلُ سَمِيًّ۬ا (٧) قَالَ رَبِّ أَنَّىٰ يَكُونُ لِى غُلَـٰمٌ۬ وَڪَانَتِ ٱمۡرَأَتِى عَاقِرً۬ا وَقَدۡ بَلَغۡتُ مِنَ ٱلۡڪِبَرِ عِتِيًّ۬ا (٨) قَالَ كَذَٲلِكَ قَالَ رَبُّكَ هُوَ عَلَىَّ هَيِّنٌ۬ وَقَدۡ "

So in my humble opinion the translation isn´t really correct

Wa salam wa regards
#35
Women / Prophet Mary
January 04, 2014, 02:50:28 AM
Salam ladies and Gentleman,
I want to bring up the subject of the prophethood of Mary(pbuh)which Scholar of Islam draw as an ambigious theme.We find a whole chapter named after her "Sura Mariam" we find other chapter named after persons,all of them where Prophets.

In Sura 3 which is called after a familiybanch of Prophets we find an hint of Marys prophethood:
Surah Al-E-Imran

And when the angels said: O Mary! Lo! Allah hath chosen thee and made thee pure, and hath preferred thee above (all) the women of creation. (42)
Only prophets are chosen by Allah(s.t) and her miracles can be read in the chapter 19 which confirm her status.There we find a dialogue between an angle and her ,this makes her prophethood clear.

wa salam and regards
#36
Discussions / Possesivpronoun
January 02, 2014, 02:23:26 AM
Can somebody help me with the arabic grammar.?I want to know how to translate the pronoun of things,are they neutral or is it depending of the Noun.For example:
How would you translate-sunblocker protect the skin.........->against her(sun) rays.
                                            example for masculine.........->against his (Moon)light.
                                            example for Neutrum?



Thank you in advance                   
#37
Discussions / Dogphobia
January 01, 2014, 04:21:04 AM
salam,
I want to talk about the myth about the unpurity of dogs which the secondary source of Islam is proclaiming by stating a prayer is not accepted when a dog is nearby or the angels will not enter a house with a dog inside.In sure 5 we see that animal hunted by a dog is allowed to eat.
Sura5:(3)ٱلۡجَوَارِحِ مُكَلِّبِينَ K-L-B is the root for Dog
In sura18:17we read the Story of the companions of the cave with their dog and we see that Allah is using the pronoun "We" this indicates that someone is moving the young men and the dog from side to side,this can only be angels.So the myth of dislike from angels about dog is obsolete.

wa salam and regards
#38
General Discussions / How to walk
December 20, 2013, 05:08:47 AM
Salaam to all,
I came to an ayat in the Surat Luqman which grasp my interest  how to walk.

(١٧) وَلَا تُصَعِّرۡ خَدَّكَ لِلنَّاسِ وَلَا تَمۡشِ فِى ٱلۡأَرۡضِ مَرَحًا‌ۖ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ لَا يُحِبُّ كُلَّ مُخۡتَالٍ۬ فَخُورٍ۬ (١٨) وَٱقۡصِدۡ فِى مَشۡيِكَ وَٱغۡضُضۡ مِن صَوۡتِكَ‌ۚ إِنَّ أَنكَرَ ٱلۡأَصۡوَٲتِ لَصَوۡتُ ٱلۡحَمِيرِ
(17) Turn not thy cheek in scorn toward folk, nor walk with pertness in the land. Lo! Allah loveth not each braggart boaster. (18) Be modest in thy bearing and subdue thy voice. Lo! the harshest of all voices is the voice of the ass.

Can somebody translate the arabic word "modest" i think the root is qaf-sin-dal if im not mistaken.

Thank you in advance
#39
General Discussions / The Basmala
December 13, 2013, 03:28:45 AM
Salam to all,

I don´t know if you have discussed this Topic about the opening Verses of each chapter.My question is do the Basmala belong to the Revelation or does it has the purpose to indicate the beginning or ending of a Chapter.
I know that the Maliki-Madhab do not recognize it as part of the Srcipture hence loud prayer is done without it otherwise the Prayer is not valid according to most of Maliki Scholars.

wa salam

 
#40
Discussions / Salve
December 12, 2013, 02:41:08 AM
I came to this site trough a research of the second coming of Christ.I was really beliving in his second coming but there were too many contradictions within the hadithcorpus and in the Description of Jesus coming by christianity and Islam.

This site is an eyeopener, thanks.