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Salam Abbsrayray,

Well i do not go that far but some people do not know that the ocean isn´t for fun it is like the djungle if you have not the right equipment you can be killed by an animal.
The shark isn´t bad as portrayed in films he is just doing his duty and sometimes a surfer is looking like a seadog and then he attack them but he first take a bite and taste it ,but sharks dont like humanmeat.   

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Salam Nura,
You wrote all from the sea is lawful and refered to the vers "the game of the sea and its food"What this verse is saying is that........"the game of the sea and its food" is allowed to the pilgrims  even when they are in the state of ihram; whereas the"game of the land" is haram  as long as they are in the state of ihram.

This verse is not defining what is the permissible"food" from the game of sea. It is just saying that whatever was allowed (in case of sea food) is also allowed in ihram, and that whatever was allowed (in case of the game of land) is not permissible in ihram.
If the verse is saying that all kinds of the "game of sea and its food" is permissible, then what would one say about the next sentence---Would all kind of land animals be allowed after the pilgrim is out of ihram? No one takes the expression in the second sentence "the game of the land" as a blanket approval for all land animals. Similarly, no one should take the expression in the first sentence "the game of sea and its food" as a blanket approval for all sea animals.

Moreover, the words "the game of sea and ITS FOOD" show that not every "game/catch of sea" is food; otherwise, there was no need to add the words "and its food" in this sentence. It would mean that you are allowed to catch  many things from the sea but only "its food" is permissible for you to eat. Nor does it say "ALL THE GAME OF THE SEA...." Thus an exclusion of certain sea animals are implied.

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The word Khin literally means rotten, stink or bad - Ziri means that you see. In 5:60 God uses the word kh-na-zi-ro to signify stinking as the state of condition of a person - but authorities say humans can become pigs

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Abraham served his guest with the best meal he had and that was meat.

And Our messengers cam unto Abraham with good news. They said: Peace! He answered: Peace! and delayed not to bring a roasted calf. (69) And when he saw their hands reached not to it, he mistrusted them and conceived a fear of them. They said: Fear not! Lo! we are sent unto the folk of Lot.

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Good Mornig all,

Well most fishes are "grazing" the oceans Plankton,like the herring but somtimes he eat the "insects of water" shrimps and fisheggs so he is like the chicken on land.

But there also predator in the ocean most of them had teeth to kill like the shark,orca,dolphins but the whales which are grazing do not have  teeth they eat mostly plankton or small fishes.

Their is no Prohibition to eat whales but beacause of their long pragnancy they should be forbidden because we should live in peace,harmonie,balance=Islam   

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Dear Nura i like your writings but here i disagree with you cause a whale is pragnat for a year till 17months and they get only one Baby not millions like the small fishes.

Can you agree it up with your conscience when you order a whalesteak to eat meat from a whale who probably was pragnat

Sorry Nura but Whales belong to the douptfull/forbiden Meat,in my opinion.

peace

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General Discussions / Re: Wine in the Quran
« on: January 31, 2014, 06:02:01 PM »
Salam Ismail,

To such orgies their are always two male and female look up the Story of Lot(pbuh)and producing wine is made be male and orginzer of partys too.

wa salam


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Thank you for you thought Nura you draw my Attention to the fish as being lawful,i remember the Story of Yunus where he was "eaten" by a fish"Sura 37"

"When he fled unto the laden ship, (140) And then drew lots and was of those rejected; (141) And the fish swallowed him while he was blameworthy; (142) And had he not been one of those who glorify (Allah) (143) He would have tarried in its belly till the day when they are raised; (144) Then We cast him on a desert shore while he was sick; (145)"

And the Story of Musa when he and his companion wanted to make eat the fish "Sura 18"

Both mightt be meant symbolically nevertheless i just would say in the  last one we get to know that small fishes are allowed to eat but fishes who accompany Humans are not allowed because(to exaggerate it)their could be a man Inside the fish.
Yunus(pbuh)is called "companion of the fish" and the amazing Thing is that dolphins and whales do really accompany Humans.

wa salam



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Salam Arman,

What aboutthe Story of the "People of the Cave" when they were woken up they should buy pure Food in the City although they were in danger to be stoned they send one to the buy something to eat.If they risk their live they could also eat their companion(the dog) but they didnt.And when their were put to sleep again the People found their dog withthem if the environment where Dogeater they would have taken the dog and would have sold him for a high Price but they didnt because they saw it as a sign of These People and these dog(maybe for Humans and Dogs in general).

Similar Story in Sura :2 this time a Man and his beast of burden where put as a sign.

Further we get to know about the camel of salih not to be hurt( a hint not to eat camelmeat?)

My two Cents wa salam

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Salam,

Is it meant all the dead,all blood or the dead swine and the blood swine?

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Discussions / Re: Black cat
« on: January 28, 2014, 11:32:50 PM »
I would like to end this thread from my side with this Quote.
"Sura al-Fatir"

"Hast thou not seen that Allah causeth water to fall from the sky, and We produce therewith fruit of divers hues; and among the hills are streaks white and red, of divers hues, and (others) raven-black; (27) And of men and beasts and cattle, in like manner, divers hues? The erudite among His bondmen fear Allah alone. Lo! Allah is Mighty, Forgiving. (28)


peace 

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General Discussions / Wine in the Quran
« on: January 28, 2014, 07:07:16 PM »
Salam all,

A popular Topic for islamcritics is the discrepance of Wine in the Quran,they took the quotes of the "Prohibition" of wine and the Use of it in the hereafter.This is indeed a subject one had to ponder on,so if checked what it is about really behind.

For Example:
Chapter"The Cow"
"They question thee about strong drink and games of chance. Say: In both is great sin, and (some) utility for men; but the sin of them is greater than their usefulness. And they ask thee what they ought to spend. Say: that which is superfluous. Thus Allah maketh plain to you (His) revelations, that haply ye may reflect. "(219)

Chapter 47:15
" A similitude of the Garden which those who keep their duty (to Allah) are promised: Therein are rivers of water unpolluted, and rivers of milk whereof the flavour changeth not, and rivers of wine delicious to the drinkers, and rivers of clear-run honey; therein for them is every kind of fruit, with pardon from their Lord. (Are those who enjoy all this) like those who are immortal in the Fire and are given boiling water to drink so that it teareth their bowels? (15)"

"...rivers of wine delicious for the drinkers..."This is what the Critics use for an example of the coruption in the Quran.But when you read all the verses of the hereafters drink,you came to another Picture of it.

In Chapter 37:46 we read about the effect the Drink of the rivers will have in heaven.
"(44) A cup from a gushing spring is brought round for them, (45) White, delicious to the drinkers, (46) Wherein there is no headache nor are they made mad thereby. (47) "

wasalam

 

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Women / Re: Doctors
« on: January 28, 2014, 05:01:50 PM »
Salam Karen,

I think it depends on the doctor i have heard about cases where the "angel" in White has raped women under anaesthetic.So ask your doc if he is married,children what Hobbies(a serious doctor would spend a few minutes) if he like animals etc.

Answers like i have no time for a family are a Signal for you to look out.

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Discussions / Re: My Journey in search for "Good"
« on: January 28, 2014, 04:36:03 PM »
Salam,

Good story from a good guy,thank you and the end of our journey we realize everthing is good how it is.

 

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Discussions / Re: Black cat
« on: January 27, 2014, 05:59:26 PM »
Salam
Yes you hit the point,it is the people not the religion who are confused.But i put it in this section because it is connected with the Christian medieval,where you could be burnt if you had a black cat because you were suspicious to do sorcery.

It must be the differenz from the "normality" what causes an attention to this special form of colour(black sheep in the herd).And the fact that people are afraid of things they are not common with they use a simple comparison with the night.

If you search you can find this belief around the world so in the past arabia that maybe explain ahadith like this:
Sahih Muslim

 #3813 - Abu Zubair heard Jabir Abdullah saying: Allah's messenger ordered us
 to kill dogs and we carried out this order so much so that we also killed
 the dog roaming with a women from the desert. Then Allah's apostle forbade
 their killing. He said: "It is your duty to kill the jet-black (dog)
 having two spots (on the eyes) for it is a devil.
 
You can find also the contrary form of fortune going along with albinism in Africa even today.People get killed of their lack of Melantonin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otpb5s97uYw

regards

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