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Re: 7:172-173 the meaning of these verses
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2016, 04:45:47 AM »
sorry for badging i will try to stop that sorry. but yes thank you hamzah that has ansewered my question thanks that makes lot of scense thanks jazzakkallah and thanks to wanderer as well its just hamzah explained it a bit simpler but thanks

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explain 3:85 with the answers from 7:172 -173 and the word kafir
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2016, 07:58:58 AM »
Assalam alikum I had answers for 7:172 -173 and I know the answer to the word kafir who knowingly reject the truth and I agree with all the answers to these answers but I have a problem with 3:85 because this verse makes it sound like any non monotheism people like athiest and pagan even if they don't hear or know the truth or hear the wrong stuff of islam or monthiest will go to hell but i know that's not right so if some one could help me out with this question that would be great

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Re: explain 3:85 with the answers from 7:172 -173 and the word kafir
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2016, 08:22:43 AM »
side note just to say when I mean the answers from 7:17-173 I mean from the part 2 page witch says the meaning of these verses  not the first page with 7:172-173 ok just to say jazzakkallah

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Re: 7:172-173 the meaning of these verses
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2016, 09:23:59 AM »
I feel that verse 3:86 perfectly answer your question.
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Rather, We dash the truth upon falsehood, and it destroys it, and thereupon it departs. And for you is destruction from that which you describe. (21:18)

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Re: 7:172-173 the meaning of these verses
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2016, 02:54:22 PM »
Thanks but some say 3:86 doesn't belong with 3:85 because they say 3:86 is starting on a new subject because of the capital letter with 3:86 and they say when there is a capital it means that allah is starting on a new subject jazzakkallah

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Re: 7:172-173 the meaning of these verses
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2016, 03:18:13 PM »
No. Not it does not mean that, and frankly, I find it preposterous that someone would even try to say that.
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Rather, We dash the truth upon falsehood, and it destroys it, and thereupon it departs. And for you is destruction from that which you describe. (21:18)

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Re: 7:172-173 the meaning of these verses
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2016, 04:07:17 PM »
Ok thanks jazzakkallah also a similar verse to 3:85 is 3:19 so how would we explain that verse the beginning of that verse thanks for all the help and sorry to keep bothering you