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Don't hear any sinful speech in heaven
« on: January 24, 2017, 06:00:01 PM »
Assalam alikum does that verse mean we won't be able to hear the quran in heaven because it says we won't hear sinful speech so does that mean we won't hear about the story of pharoh saying I'm god and about other people's sins like luts town and how the prophets went to them to stop them

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Re: Don't hear any sinful speech in heaven
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2017, 08:25:25 PM »
salam sharon

That story itself in the Quran is not sinful speech. The purpose of that story is to remind us about how a person can go too far and say such terrifying things. The story itself isn't sinful speech. Otherwise, "reading" it here would be a sinful act or haram ! So, "reading" about the sinful actions of those nations, is not sin by itself, unless you approve what those people did.

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Re: Don't hear any sinful speech in heaven
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2017, 09:44:44 PM »
Ok thanks so what does the quran mean by we won't hear sinful speech in heaven does it mean we won't hear about what sins people did on earth or does it just mean that we won't hear people do what they did on earth in heaven like for example we will hear what people did on earth like backbiting but they won't be be backbiting in heaven is that what it means or does mean that we won't hear story's or watching what people did in earth because if not then does that mean we won't hear about history and all that about us and people doing sins on earth and how we changed etc because I want to learn about what we did on earth and how the bad changed and how they become good and got closer to god if you know what I mean jazzakkallah

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Re: Don't hear any sinful speech in heaven
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2017, 05:07:32 AM »
Salaam Sharon,

I would take this to mean that amongst people in heaven,
there would be no sinful speech between them.
The negative characteristics we have in this World will not exist in heaven.

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Re: Don't hear any sinful speech in heaven
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2017, 12:39:35 AM »
Ok so it means we won't do the bad stuff on earth in heaven but it dissent mean we won't hear it from earth like we would be able to see the history of the world like Hitler and stain doing bad stuff and sinful speech from heaven like watching a documentary so we would be able to hear that that in heaven but that stuff and we won't hear that kind of stuff in heaven is that correct jazzakkallah

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Re: Don't hear any sinful speech in heaven
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2017, 08:05:05 AM »
also will we be able to make mistakes in heaven not sinful mistakes but like mistakes like when the angles asked allah why will you create humans or mistakes like you think your answer is right but turns out to be wrong jazzakkallah

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Re: Don't hear any sinful speech in heaven
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2017, 09:36:25 PM »
Assalam alikum I was just wondering why do the verses say we won't hear sinful speech in heaven instead of saying people won't be saying sinful stuff etc

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Re: Don't hear any sinful speech in heaven
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2017, 01:36:36 AM »
52:17
"Indeed, the righteous will be in gardens and bliss / pleasure (na'im)"

*na'im - joyful, pleasure, a blissful state, delight

In a state of pleasure you wont hear sinful speach and because the wine in heaven are not alcoholic so you stay delight .


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Re: Don't hear any sinful speech in heaven
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2017, 04:30:20 PM »
So does that mean we won't watch the history of this world in heaven like will we not hear the quran like when it says in the quran pharoh says I'm god. Or is it like truth seaker said that it just means among the people of paradise not that we won't hear it from earth watching it. Or hear the quran but it just means from among the people of paradise like that people won't get drunk in heaven. But it doesn't mean we won't hear drunk people on earth if we watch the history of the world and see how the prophets delt with stuff on earth. But the quran does say we will be able to see the people of hell and he'll itself in heaven
2. Will we remember our sins in heaven  and will we remember our past lives in heaven
3. But like I said why did the quran not just say we we won't say sinful stuff instead of won't hear sinful stuff

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Re: Don't hear any sinful speech in heaven
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2017, 01:36:38 AM »
2. Will we remember our sins in heaven  and will we remember our past lives in heaven
Yes, but we will no longer have any emotional connection to it.
3. But like I said why did the quran not just say we we won't say sinful stuff instead of won't hear sinful stuff
We WON'T hear sinful stuff. This does not mean we will not acknowledge the presence of sin, as we can see from when the denizens of heaven look upon the denizens of hell in the Quran.
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Rather, We dash the truth upon falsehood, and it destroys it, and thereupon it departs. And for you is destruction from that which you describe. (21:18)

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Re: Don't hear any sinful speech in heaven
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2017, 01:52:38 AM »
2.disconnection from the heart
"And We will remove whatever rancour / malice may be in their hearts. Rivers flow beneath them. And they will say: All praise is for God, the One who has guided us to this. We could not truly have been led aright if God had not guided us. Certainly the messengers of our Lord did bring the Truth. And they will be addressed, "This is the Garden. You have been made to inherit it for what you used to do."
7:43
3.As we will turn to be created a new creation we will maybe not have ears to hear?im thinking on a telepathic creation .

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Re: Don't hear any sinful speech in heaven
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2017, 05:38:35 PM »
Assalam alikum thanks when you say
1. we won't have any emotional connection  to earth do you mean we  not get sad over it etc like we have no emotional connection to the people of hell and like on the day of judgement  but we still rember our sins and past lives but to learn and appreciate stuff etc but we just don't get that sad or angry about stuff on earth apart from the really bad people on earth who also went to hell like pharoh because we will still care what happened on earth because if not that would mean we wouldn't care what happened to the good people like the prophets and how they were treated because that would make us heartless
2. So will we be able to watch the history of this life or read about it like read the quran or watch the life of the prophets but if we did read or watch this wouldn't that end up us hearing sinful speech in heaven like when read read the quran we gear the sinful speech of pharoh or can we and it is  that it only means from among the people of paradise not that we can't hear it from earth or wont we be able to watch stuff like documentaries of this life read stuff books etc about life etc
3. Because it will be weird that we can't learn more about this life etc because that would mean we would be learning less than more
4. Will we be able to read the quran in heaven