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#91
Women / Re: Women's clothes and rape?
Last post by Wakas - February 19, 2023, 09:00:53 PMpeace,
Re: 1)
You may find this useful:
https://misconceptions-about-islam.com/misconception.php?id=34
It discusses the verse you mention.
Re: 1)
You may find this useful:
https://misconceptions-about-islam.com/misconception.php?id=34
It discusses the verse you mention.
#92
Women / Re: Husband still has to pay a...
Last post by Wakas - February 19, 2023, 08:41:01 PMpeace Ayman, TS,
My Quranic understanding is the default role of the husband is as breadwinner/maintainer HOWEVER it can be modified depending on what the couple agree on prior to marriage and/or in the marriage contract. See here for references:
https://misconceptions-about-islam.com/misconception.php?id=40
http://www.quran434.com/wife-beating-islam.html#part2
Instead of saying "she needs to obtain her husband's permission" I would clarify to "it depends on what was mutually agreed upon prior to marriage and/or in the marriage contract". If either party wants to deviate from that contract then they must seek permission from the other.
My Quranic understanding is the default role of the husband is as breadwinner/maintainer HOWEVER it can be modified depending on what the couple agree on prior to marriage and/or in the marriage contract. See here for references:
https://misconceptions-about-islam.com/misconception.php?id=40
http://www.quran434.com/wife-beating-islam.html#part2
Quote from: Truth Seeker on February 06, 2020, 10:52:59 AM
If she wants to work and there is no financial reason to, then she needs to obtain her husband's permission to do so.
Instead of saying "she needs to obtain her husband's permission" I would clarify to "it depends on what was mutually agreed upon prior to marriage and/or in the marriage contract". If either party wants to deviate from that contract then they must seek permission from the other.
#93
General Discussions / Al Quran Vs What We Know & Pra...
Last post by abdur_rahman987 - February 17, 2023, 08:37:18 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQkgsPXN3-s-GUA1oYi_1kgxTPckPkdGf
https://www.slideshare.net/AbdurRahman64200/alquranvswhatweknowpracticepdf
This channel repudiates - in the light of Al Quran - some false beliefs shared by the ummah almost unanimously.
Narration of history, quotes of the ancient, traditions passed on, copies of books - even written books - may somehow change, as time flows. Yet, Al Quran - the book of Allah - remains pure, and unaltered. For that, no one deserves much credit except that Allah has willed to preserve it. If doubt ever crosses our mind, the logical coherence of the Holy Quran reaffirms our faith. Only the fools - who perceive not - see any non-existent inconsistency. If anything else - anything at all - contradicts clear verses of Al Quran, then, even if the entire universe believes in it, Al Quran speaks the truth, while that thing is - surely - a lie. Allah is free from any need of the universe.
https://www.slideshare.net/AbdurRahman64200/alquranvswhatweknowpracticepdf
This channel repudiates - in the light of Al Quran - some false beliefs shared by the ummah almost unanimously.
Narration of history, quotes of the ancient, traditions passed on, copies of books - even written books - may somehow change, as time flows. Yet, Al Quran - the book of Allah - remains pure, and unaltered. For that, no one deserves much credit except that Allah has willed to preserve it. If doubt ever crosses our mind, the logical coherence of the Holy Quran reaffirms our faith. Only the fools - who perceive not - see any non-existent inconsistency. If anything else - anything at all - contradicts clear verses of Al Quran, then, even if the entire universe believes in it, Al Quran speaks the truth, while that thing is - surely - a lie. Allah is free from any need of the universe.
#94
General Discussions / Salaam
Last post by muslimgap - February 15, 2023, 05:39:55 AMSalaam!
My goal is to teach our followers about the beauty of Islam. We hope to inspire and show our readers how easy it is to apply the teachings of the Muslim faith in our daily lives.
https://muslimgap.com/newsletter
My goal is to teach our followers about the beauty of Islam. We hope to inspire and show our readers how easy it is to apply the teachings of the Muslim faith in our daily lives.
https://muslimgap.com/newsletter
#95
Discussions / Re: Is it possible to make a c...
Last post by Hamzeh - February 14, 2023, 04:34:50 PMAssalamu 3alykum brother Joseph and anothersoulonearth
It's been a long time. Insha'Allah you and all the brothers and sisters on the forum are doing well by the grace of God.
I've also had similar feelings as anothersoulonearth. Lately even though I haven't been actively on the forum I have been going through the forum from when it started(2011). Masha'Allah I've noticed there is so much discussions and articles that are very valuable and would be a great loss if anything happened to them may God forbid. I do find myself every now and then referring to many articles when discussing certain topics. Masha'Allah they are very useful as they contain the relevant verses pertaining to the topic.
When also I'm by a screen I also just screen share the whole article and go through it with family and friends.
So I've also had similar feelings and also thinking of saving as much as I can Insha'Allah and of course with the references and copyrights included. As the information and discussions and articles Masha'Allah are indeed very valuable, organized and helpful when spreading the message of the Quran. Insha'Allah I will also try to collaborate lots of the topics and articles together one day as I feel I have read a lot and understand where to find them Alhamdulila. Ill try to collaborate them nicely and before anything I will share them with you first brother Joseph to make sure they are in tandem with your rules as well.
Iv also been encouraging my children and family to also go through as much as they can and study them carefully. This seems to aid them in many ways Alhamdulila. Of course with the view to always keep vigilant and always refer things to Gods books and cross examining ideas with the Quran as they read it. Maybe Insha'Allah they can also help towards spreading the truth.
You have become well known Masha'Allah around my house hold. I find the kids feel comforted knowing they can cross examine your articles through the Quran and especially that you also have spread the idea that everyone should not take anything blindly. They are usually curious what your views are on certain topics as Alhamdulila you have built a good reputation and it's clear Masha'Allah that the Almighty has bestowed upon you much knowledge and wisdom.
May God bless you for your immense efforts and time and for narrating to us His revelations. Alhamdulila and Glory to God who has indeed sent us messengers from among ourselves who relate to us His messages in truth.
Nice to hear from you again.
Salam
It's been a long time. Insha'Allah you and all the brothers and sisters on the forum are doing well by the grace of God.
I've also had similar feelings as anothersoulonearth. Lately even though I haven't been actively on the forum I have been going through the forum from when it started(2011). Masha'Allah I've noticed there is so much discussions and articles that are very valuable and would be a great loss if anything happened to them may God forbid. I do find myself every now and then referring to many articles when discussing certain topics. Masha'Allah they are very useful as they contain the relevant verses pertaining to the topic.
When also I'm by a screen I also just screen share the whole article and go through it with family and friends.
So I've also had similar feelings and also thinking of saving as much as I can Insha'Allah and of course with the references and copyrights included. As the information and discussions and articles Masha'Allah are indeed very valuable, organized and helpful when spreading the message of the Quran. Insha'Allah I will also try to collaborate lots of the topics and articles together one day as I feel I have read a lot and understand where to find them Alhamdulila. Ill try to collaborate them nicely and before anything I will share them with you first brother Joseph to make sure they are in tandem with your rules as well.
Iv also been encouraging my children and family to also go through as much as they can and study them carefully. This seems to aid them in many ways Alhamdulila. Of course with the view to always keep vigilant and always refer things to Gods books and cross examining ideas with the Quran as they read it. Maybe Insha'Allah they can also help towards spreading the truth.
You have become well known Masha'Allah around my house hold. I find the kids feel comforted knowing they can cross examine your articles through the Quran and especially that you also have spread the idea that everyone should not take anything blindly. They are usually curious what your views are on certain topics as Alhamdulila you have built a good reputation and it's clear Masha'Allah that the Almighty has bestowed upon you much knowledge and wisdom.
May God bless you for your immense efforts and time and for narrating to us His revelations. Alhamdulila and Glory to God who has indeed sent us messengers from among ourselves who relate to us His messages in truth.
Nice to hear from you again.
Salam
#96
Discussions / Re: Is it possible to make a c...
Last post by anothersoulonearth - February 14, 2023, 01:48:39 AMDear brother HasanAFB,
Thanks for the support! It has motivated me to do it even quicker Lord willing.
Dear brother Joseph,
Thank you for the kind words of encouragement
Definitely, I appreciate all of the time, resources and money spent on keeping this website online for many years! May God's pleasure be with you for every second it was up. You have inspired me to fall in love with the Quran when I was a young teenager. I will forever be thankful to you and to God who is the only one who guides. And if He guides some through others, it's only His loving ways that bless and reward us all together.
May God bless us all in the pursuit of His truth and grace. I am busy with university this week, but I will update you soon on the status of gathering all the data.
Regards,
Thanks for the support! It has motivated me to do it even quicker Lord willing.
Dear brother Joseph,
Thank you for the kind words of encouragement
Definitely, I appreciate all of the time, resources and money spent on keeping this website online for many years! May God's pleasure be with you for every second it was up. You have inspired me to fall in love with the Quran when I was a young teenager. I will forever be thankful to you and to God who is the only one who guides. And if He guides some through others, it's only His loving ways that bless and reward us all together.
May God bless us all in the pursuit of His truth and grace. I am busy with university this week, but I will update you soon on the status of gathering all the data.
Regards,
#97
General Discussions / Women in Islam
Last post by F - February 11, 2023, 09:52:38 PMWomen in Islam:
Mohamed's marriage to a six years old child:
History tells us that Mohamed got engaged to Aisha when she was six years old and married her three years latter which means he had sex with her at the age of nine. But history is not always correct. Muslims follow the Quran because God promised to protect it from modification until the Day of Judgment. As for history or Hadith, if they agree with the Quran, we follow it, otherwise we don't. Let's see what the Quran says about marriage.
God commanded the Muslim in the Quran not to take any of the gifts he gave to his wife if he wanted to divorce her.
• Quran (4:20) But if you want to replace one wife with another and you have given one of them a great amount [in gifts], do not take [back] from it anything. Would you take it in injustice and manifest sin?
Then God said in next verse that the wife took a solemn covenant from the husband when he married her. If Mohamed got engaged to Aisha at the age of six and married her at nine, how can a child of six or nine years old understand the solemn covenant? This can be possible among people who are intellectually mature to understand the responsibilities of this covenant.
• Quran (4:21) And how could you take it while you have gone in unto each other and they have taken from you a solemn covenant?
God also said in the Quran that it is not permissible for us to give the orphans their rights such as money, marriage, employment, etc. except when they reach the age of puberty, and if we find sound judgment in them. God set the condition of maturity to give them their money. If God does not allow immature people to have access to their money, how can He allow them to marry and have children? It is obvious that a child of six or nine years old does not have maturity to make a sound judgment.
• Quran (4:6) And test the orphans [in their abilities] until they reach marriageable age. Then if you perceive in them sound judgment, release their property to them...
This means that the history that says Mohamed got engaged to Aisha at the age of six and married her at nine is incorrect because it contradicts the Quran because God forbade marriage before the age of maturity, and God testified in Quran that Mohamed was of great moral character. This means that he did not violate any of God's commandments.
• Quran (68:4) And indeed, you are of a great moral character.
However, if we read the family history of the Abu Bakr, Aisha's father, we find that the age of Aisha can easily be calculated from the age of her older sister Asma, who was ten years older. Asma was born fourteen years before the Prophet's mission, and the Prophet migrated to Medina after thirteen years, this means that she was twenty-seven years old during the migration. Since Aisha was ten years younger, this means that she was seventeen years old during the migration, and Mohamed married her in the second year after the migration, this means that she was nineteen years old at the time of Mohamed's marriage to her, and not nine, as reported in the fake history.
Having sex with slave girls:
Non-Muslims believe that Muslims treat slave girls as the sexual property of their male owners. This is completely incorrect. Before Islam, slavery was common and slave women were used for prostitution. When Islam came, one of its goals was the elimination of slavery, equality between all humans, and those who are more righteous are closest to God in love.
• Quran (49:13) O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.
• Prophet Mohamed said: O people, verily your Lord is One and your father (Adam) is one. Verily there is no superiority of an Arab over a non-Arab or of a non-Arab over an Arab or of a red man over a black man or of a black man over a red man, except in terms of pious.
God commanded in the Quran to treat parents kindly and to those whom our right hands possess (slaves). This means that God wanted Muslims to be fair with slaves like their parents. And God told us in the Quran that it is not permissible to marry our mothers, so if we are told to treat slaves like our mothers, then we are not allowed raping slaves without marriage.
• Quran (4:36) Worship Allah and associate nothing with Him, and to parents do good, and to relatives, orphans, the needy, the near neighbour, the neighbour farther away, the companion at your side, the traveler, and those whom your right hands possess (slaves). Indeed, Allah does not like those who are self-deluding and boastful.
God also said that there is no sin on men having sex with their wives or those who our right hands possess (slaves). So, sex is permissible with slaves, not through prostitution, but through marriage according to the Islamic law, because God urged Muslims to marry slaves in another verse.
• Quran (23:1, 5-6) Certainly will the believers have succeeded...And they who guard their private parts Except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they will not be blamed
• Quran (24:32) And marry the unmarried among you and the righteous among your male slaves and female slaves. If they should be poor, Allah will enrich them from His bounty, and Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing.
God said in the Quran that some sins are not forgiven except by buying a slave from the infidels and freeing them because He wanted to get rid of slavery and all people are equal. For example, if a Muslim broke his oath, God commanded to buy a slave from the infidels and set him/her free.
• Quran (5:89) Allah will not impose blame upon you for what is meaningless in your oaths, but He will impose blame upon you for [breaking] what you intended of oaths. So its expiation is the feeding of ten needy people from the average of that which you feed your [own] families or clothing them or the freeing of a slave. But whoever cannot find [or afford it] - then a fast of three days [is required]. That is the expiation for oaths when
you have sworn. But guard your oaths. Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you may be grateful.
God forbids marrying married women, except those whom our right hands possess (slaves). This means that we are not allowed to have an affair with a married woman in order to take her from her husband. Then God said, except slaves, but He set a condition which is to seek them in marriage and give to them gifts and dowry.
• Quran (4:24) Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath Allah ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and Allah is All-knowing, All-wise
Having sex with captive women, prisoners of war:
Non-Muslims also believe that Muslims are allowed to engage in prostitution with captive women, prisoners of war. This is completely incorrect because God said in the Quran that His righteous servants give the best food to the captives without expecting any reward from them like sex or anything else because they are afraid of God's punishment. God in Islam wants from Muslims to treat captives kindly, be fair with them, and feed them the best food to encourage them to read the Quran and understand Islam. God said in the Quran that whoever treats captives with justice will enter heaven.
• Quran (76:
And they give food in spite of love for it to the needy, the orphan, and the captive, (9) [Saying], "We feed you only for the countenance of Allah. We wish not from you reward or gratitude. (10) Indeed, We fear from our Lord a Day austere and distressful." (11) So Allah will protect them from the evil of that Day and give them radiance and happiness (12) And will reward them for what they patiently endured [with] a garden [in Paradise] and silk [garments].
Muslims are polygamous:
A Muslim man is allowed to marry up to four women at one time. This means that Islam encourages polygamy. But this is not only in Islam because most of God's prophets were polygamous. This does not mean that these prophets were evil because this is the law of God. For example, Prophet Abraham married Sarah and Hagar at the same time, and Prophet David had seven spouses at the same time, Ahinoam, Abigail, Maachah, Haggith, Abital, Eglah, and Bath-shua. However, when God allowed the marriage of up to four women in Quran, He set a condition that a man should be fair to all of them or else he would not be allowed to marry more than one if he knew he couldn't be fair. The reason God allows men to marry up to four wives is to test them who would follow His command that is to be fair to all them, and to test women whether they accept God's command and be patient.
• Quran (4:3) And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].
Muslim women cover their head:
Muslim women are required to cover their head, but we also see some Muslim women covering their face. Covering the face (called niqab) is not required by Islam, it's the culture in which these women grew up, because in the Arabian Peninsula the sun is hot and some women cover their face to protect it from the sun, so it has become a habit for them to keep it covered even when living in other countries.
• Asma, daughter of Abu Bakr, entered upon Prophet Mohamed wearing thin clothes. The Prophet turned his attention from her. He said: O Asma, when a woman reaches the age of menstruation, it does not suit her that she displays her parts of body except this and this, and he pointed to his face and hands.
God commanded men in the Quran to lower their gaze when looking at women. This means that there is something visible in women that God has forbidden men to look at. If God wants women to cover their faces, then this means that everything in women is covered, so why did then He ask men not to look at women if that was the case. This is evidence that women are not required to cover their face.
• Quran (24:30) "O Prophet!" Tell the believing men to lower their gaze and guard their chastity. That is purer for them. Surely Allah is All-Aware of what they do.
The reason God commanded women to cover their heads and bodies is that He wants to honor them and He wants men to value them on the basis of their morals and not on their appearance, and to protect them from being rapped. The Bible also says that women are required to cover their head.
• 1 Corinthians (11:6) For if a woman does not cover her head, let her also have her hair cut off; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, let her cover her head.
A Muslim husband is allowed to beat his wife:
Non-Muslims misunderstood verse (4:34) which says that it is permissible for a husband to beat his wife. Please note that this is only for disloyal women and after three incidents. God commanded the Muslim to live with his wife in kindness. Also, God forbids a Muslim to take any money from his wife by force. If she accepts of her own free will to help her husband pay some bills without pressure from the husband, then it is her decision, otherwise the husband is responsible for all her expenses even if she works.
• Quran (4:19) O you who have believed, it is not lawful for you to inherit women by compulsion. And do not make difficulties for them in order to take [back] part of what you gave them unless they commit a clear immorality. And live with them in kindness. For if you dislike them - perhaps you dislike a thing and Allah makes therein much good.
When the servant of prophet Mohamed drove the Camels fast while there were women riding, the Prophet ordered him to drive slowly and told him that we have glass vessels riding on the Camels. Prophet Mohamed described women as glass vessels. Vessels are used to put flowers in and glass is easy to break. The Prophet meant to say that women are sensitive and we should treat them kindly.
• Prophet Mohamed was on a journey and he had a servant called Anjasha, and he was driving the camels (very fast, and there were women riding on those camels). Prophet Mohamed said, watch O Anjasha! Drive slowly (the camels) as you are driving (the mounts who are carrying) glass vessels (women)!
Prophet Mohamed also instructed Muslims to be kind to wives. He said that the best men are those who act kindly towards their wives.
• Prophet Mohamed said: Take my advice with regard to women: Act kindly towards women, for they were created from a rib and the most crooked part of a rib is it's uppermost. If you attempt to straighten it; you will break it, and if you leave it alone it will remain crooked; so act kindly toward women. He also said that the best of you is he who is best to his family, and I am the best among you to my family.
So when God commanded a husband to beat his wife, it was not for any case, only for the disloyal and after three incidents. First God commands the husband to admonish her, if she persists, God commands the husband not to share the bed with her as a sign of the husband's angry, if she persists, then God allows the husband to beat her without breaking any bones or causing bleeding.
• Quran (4:34) Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all)
Prophet Mohamed gave an example of when the husband should beat his wife which is when she plans to invite another man to her bed. In this case, Islam is very merciful to the guilty wives because God gives them three opportunities to repent and be corrected. This is an ideal solution because God wants to protect the wife from divorce and the children from living apart from the father or the mother.
• Sulaiman bin Amr bin Al-Ahwas said: "My father narrated to me that he witnessed the farewell pilgrimage with the Messenger of Allah. So he thanked and praised Allah and he reminded and gave admonition. He mentioned a story in his narration and he (the Prophet) said: "And indeed I order you to be good to the women, for they are but captives with you over whom you have no power than that, except if they come with manifest evil behavior. If they do that, then abandon their beds and beat them with a beating that is not harmful. And if they obey you then you have no cause against them. Indeed you have rights over your women, and your women have rights over you. As for your rights over your women, then they must not allow anyone whom you dislike to treat on your bedding (furniture), nor to admit anyone in your home that you dislike. And their rights over you are that you treat them well in clothing them and feeding them."
Women lack mind and faith:
Prophet Mohamed said that women lack mind and faith, but he did not intend to insult them, but rather to remind men to treat them kindly. God said in Quran to bring two men as witnesses for loans, but if two men is not available, then two women and one man. God replaced the man with two women, and said that if one of them forgets, the other will remind her. God said that women forget, which means that there is a deficiency in their brains. Today science discovers that a woman's brain is smaller than a man's. How did Mohamed know this information 1400 years ago without advanced technology? The answer is God who created the brain of women told him.
https://www.bing.com/search?q=brain+of+women+is+smaller+than+brain+of+men&cvid=2ec0f508786d4966aa33a2a66ab63b37&aqs=edge.0.69i59j0j69i59j69i64.1151j0j9&FORM=ANAB01&PC=U531
• Quran (2:282) ...Call upon two of your men to witness. If two men cannot be found, then one man and two women of your choice will witness - so if one of the women forgets the other may remind her...
As for the lack of faith, the reason is that Prophet Mohamed said that is because women are not allowed to pray, fast and read Quran during menstruation. When a woman purifies, God allows the woman to fast the missed days and not to pray the missed prayers. This means that men pray more than women.
• Prophet Mohamed said: I did not see more defective in respect of mind and religion than the wise of you (women). A woman asked: What is the defect of mind and religion? He replied: The defect of mind is the testimony of two women for one man, and the defect of faith is that one of you does not fast during Ramadan (when one is menstruating), and keep away from prayer for some days.
The wisdom is that God created a woman's brain smaller than a man's, not to underestimate her, but to help her forget, because He assigned her many responsibilities such as pregnancy, caring for children by breastfeeding them and her sympathy and concern for them, and many more. So God wants women to forget some of the suffering to help them reduce stress.
A Muslim male gets a double share of the inheritance over the female:
Quran says that the male gets a double share of the inheritance over the female, as in verse (4:11). But if you read Chapter 4 in Quran verses (7-14), you will find that the grandfather, grandmother, uncle and aunt also get a share of the inheritance, depending on each case.
The wisdom behind the male's share being twice that of the female is that the male is responsible for supporting the female if she goes bankrupt, as if she becomes widow, or if she never married, or she is unemployed and had no money. The wisdom behind this is, as I said above, that women lack mind, which means that a deceiver can pretend to love her, marry her to steal her money, and then divorce her. Therefore, God wants to protect the female by giving the male a double share, so in the event of her bankruptcy, the male bears the responsibility of providing for his sister. It is clear that Islam is fair for women and men, and a perfect solution.
The Bible also says that the man is the head of the wife.
• Ephesians (5:23) For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church...
Mohamed's marriage to a six years old child:
History tells us that Mohamed got engaged to Aisha when she was six years old and married her three years latter which means he had sex with her at the age of nine. But history is not always correct. Muslims follow the Quran because God promised to protect it from modification until the Day of Judgment. As for history or Hadith, if they agree with the Quran, we follow it, otherwise we don't. Let's see what the Quran says about marriage.
God commanded the Muslim in the Quran not to take any of the gifts he gave to his wife if he wanted to divorce her.
• Quran (4:20) But if you want to replace one wife with another and you have given one of them a great amount [in gifts], do not take [back] from it anything. Would you take it in injustice and manifest sin?
Then God said in next verse that the wife took a solemn covenant from the husband when he married her. If Mohamed got engaged to Aisha at the age of six and married her at nine, how can a child of six or nine years old understand the solemn covenant? This can be possible among people who are intellectually mature to understand the responsibilities of this covenant.
• Quran (4:21) And how could you take it while you have gone in unto each other and they have taken from you a solemn covenant?
God also said in the Quran that it is not permissible for us to give the orphans their rights such as money, marriage, employment, etc. except when they reach the age of puberty, and if we find sound judgment in them. God set the condition of maturity to give them their money. If God does not allow immature people to have access to their money, how can He allow them to marry and have children? It is obvious that a child of six or nine years old does not have maturity to make a sound judgment.
• Quran (4:6) And test the orphans [in their abilities] until they reach marriageable age. Then if you perceive in them sound judgment, release their property to them...
This means that the history that says Mohamed got engaged to Aisha at the age of six and married her at nine is incorrect because it contradicts the Quran because God forbade marriage before the age of maturity, and God testified in Quran that Mohamed was of great moral character. This means that he did not violate any of God's commandments.
• Quran (68:4) And indeed, you are of a great moral character.
However, if we read the family history of the Abu Bakr, Aisha's father, we find that the age of Aisha can easily be calculated from the age of her older sister Asma, who was ten years older. Asma was born fourteen years before the Prophet's mission, and the Prophet migrated to Medina after thirteen years, this means that she was twenty-seven years old during the migration. Since Aisha was ten years younger, this means that she was seventeen years old during the migration, and Mohamed married her in the second year after the migration, this means that she was nineteen years old at the time of Mohamed's marriage to her, and not nine, as reported in the fake history.
Having sex with slave girls:
Non-Muslims believe that Muslims treat slave girls as the sexual property of their male owners. This is completely incorrect. Before Islam, slavery was common and slave women were used for prostitution. When Islam came, one of its goals was the elimination of slavery, equality between all humans, and those who are more righteous are closest to God in love.
• Quran (49:13) O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.
• Prophet Mohamed said: O people, verily your Lord is One and your father (Adam) is one. Verily there is no superiority of an Arab over a non-Arab or of a non-Arab over an Arab or of a red man over a black man or of a black man over a red man, except in terms of pious.
God commanded in the Quran to treat parents kindly and to those whom our right hands possess (slaves). This means that God wanted Muslims to be fair with slaves like their parents. And God told us in the Quran that it is not permissible to marry our mothers, so if we are told to treat slaves like our mothers, then we are not allowed raping slaves without marriage.
• Quran (4:36) Worship Allah and associate nothing with Him, and to parents do good, and to relatives, orphans, the needy, the near neighbour, the neighbour farther away, the companion at your side, the traveler, and those whom your right hands possess (slaves). Indeed, Allah does not like those who are self-deluding and boastful.
God also said that there is no sin on men having sex with their wives or those who our right hands possess (slaves). So, sex is permissible with slaves, not through prostitution, but through marriage according to the Islamic law, because God urged Muslims to marry slaves in another verse.
• Quran (23:1, 5-6) Certainly will the believers have succeeded...And they who guard their private parts Except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they will not be blamed
• Quran (24:32) And marry the unmarried among you and the righteous among your male slaves and female slaves. If they should be poor, Allah will enrich them from His bounty, and Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing.
God said in the Quran that some sins are not forgiven except by buying a slave from the infidels and freeing them because He wanted to get rid of slavery and all people are equal. For example, if a Muslim broke his oath, God commanded to buy a slave from the infidels and set him/her free.
• Quran (5:89) Allah will not impose blame upon you for what is meaningless in your oaths, but He will impose blame upon you for [breaking] what you intended of oaths. So its expiation is the feeding of ten needy people from the average of that which you feed your [own] families or clothing them or the freeing of a slave. But whoever cannot find [or afford it] - then a fast of three days [is required]. That is the expiation for oaths when
you have sworn. But guard your oaths. Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you may be grateful.
God forbids marrying married women, except those whom our right hands possess (slaves). This means that we are not allowed to have an affair with a married woman in order to take her from her husband. Then God said, except slaves, but He set a condition which is to seek them in marriage and give to them gifts and dowry.
• Quran (4:24) Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath Allah ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and Allah is All-knowing, All-wise
Having sex with captive women, prisoners of war:
Non-Muslims also believe that Muslims are allowed to engage in prostitution with captive women, prisoners of war. This is completely incorrect because God said in the Quran that His righteous servants give the best food to the captives without expecting any reward from them like sex or anything else because they are afraid of God's punishment. God in Islam wants from Muslims to treat captives kindly, be fair with them, and feed them the best food to encourage them to read the Quran and understand Islam. God said in the Quran that whoever treats captives with justice will enter heaven.
• Quran (76:
And they give food in spite of love for it to the needy, the orphan, and the captive, (9) [Saying], "We feed you only for the countenance of Allah. We wish not from you reward or gratitude. (10) Indeed, We fear from our Lord a Day austere and distressful." (11) So Allah will protect them from the evil of that Day and give them radiance and happiness (12) And will reward them for what they patiently endured [with] a garden [in Paradise] and silk [garments].Muslims are polygamous:
A Muslim man is allowed to marry up to four women at one time. This means that Islam encourages polygamy. But this is not only in Islam because most of God's prophets were polygamous. This does not mean that these prophets were evil because this is the law of God. For example, Prophet Abraham married Sarah and Hagar at the same time, and Prophet David had seven spouses at the same time, Ahinoam, Abigail, Maachah, Haggith, Abital, Eglah, and Bath-shua. However, when God allowed the marriage of up to four women in Quran, He set a condition that a man should be fair to all of them or else he would not be allowed to marry more than one if he knew he couldn't be fair. The reason God allows men to marry up to four wives is to test them who would follow His command that is to be fair to all them, and to test women whether they accept God's command and be patient.
• Quran (4:3) And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].
Muslim women cover their head:
Muslim women are required to cover their head, but we also see some Muslim women covering their face. Covering the face (called niqab) is not required by Islam, it's the culture in which these women grew up, because in the Arabian Peninsula the sun is hot and some women cover their face to protect it from the sun, so it has become a habit for them to keep it covered even when living in other countries.
• Asma, daughter of Abu Bakr, entered upon Prophet Mohamed wearing thin clothes. The Prophet turned his attention from her. He said: O Asma, when a woman reaches the age of menstruation, it does not suit her that she displays her parts of body except this and this, and he pointed to his face and hands.
God commanded men in the Quran to lower their gaze when looking at women. This means that there is something visible in women that God has forbidden men to look at. If God wants women to cover their faces, then this means that everything in women is covered, so why did then He ask men not to look at women if that was the case. This is evidence that women are not required to cover their face.
• Quran (24:30) "O Prophet!" Tell the believing men to lower their gaze and guard their chastity. That is purer for them. Surely Allah is All-Aware of what they do.
The reason God commanded women to cover their heads and bodies is that He wants to honor them and He wants men to value them on the basis of their morals and not on their appearance, and to protect them from being rapped. The Bible also says that women are required to cover their head.
• 1 Corinthians (11:6) For if a woman does not cover her head, let her also have her hair cut off; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, let her cover her head.
A Muslim husband is allowed to beat his wife:
Non-Muslims misunderstood verse (4:34) which says that it is permissible for a husband to beat his wife. Please note that this is only for disloyal women and after three incidents. God commanded the Muslim to live with his wife in kindness. Also, God forbids a Muslim to take any money from his wife by force. If she accepts of her own free will to help her husband pay some bills without pressure from the husband, then it is her decision, otherwise the husband is responsible for all her expenses even if she works.
• Quran (4:19) O you who have believed, it is not lawful for you to inherit women by compulsion. And do not make difficulties for them in order to take [back] part of what you gave them unless they commit a clear immorality. And live with them in kindness. For if you dislike them - perhaps you dislike a thing and Allah makes therein much good.
When the servant of prophet Mohamed drove the Camels fast while there were women riding, the Prophet ordered him to drive slowly and told him that we have glass vessels riding on the Camels. Prophet Mohamed described women as glass vessels. Vessels are used to put flowers in and glass is easy to break. The Prophet meant to say that women are sensitive and we should treat them kindly.
• Prophet Mohamed was on a journey and he had a servant called Anjasha, and he was driving the camels (very fast, and there were women riding on those camels). Prophet Mohamed said, watch O Anjasha! Drive slowly (the camels) as you are driving (the mounts who are carrying) glass vessels (women)!
Prophet Mohamed also instructed Muslims to be kind to wives. He said that the best men are those who act kindly towards their wives.
• Prophet Mohamed said: Take my advice with regard to women: Act kindly towards women, for they were created from a rib and the most crooked part of a rib is it's uppermost. If you attempt to straighten it; you will break it, and if you leave it alone it will remain crooked; so act kindly toward women. He also said that the best of you is he who is best to his family, and I am the best among you to my family.
So when God commanded a husband to beat his wife, it was not for any case, only for the disloyal and after three incidents. First God commands the husband to admonish her, if she persists, God commands the husband not to share the bed with her as a sign of the husband's angry, if she persists, then God allows the husband to beat her without breaking any bones or causing bleeding.
• Quran (4:34) Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all)
Prophet Mohamed gave an example of when the husband should beat his wife which is when she plans to invite another man to her bed. In this case, Islam is very merciful to the guilty wives because God gives them three opportunities to repent and be corrected. This is an ideal solution because God wants to protect the wife from divorce and the children from living apart from the father or the mother.
• Sulaiman bin Amr bin Al-Ahwas said: "My father narrated to me that he witnessed the farewell pilgrimage with the Messenger of Allah. So he thanked and praised Allah and he reminded and gave admonition. He mentioned a story in his narration and he (the Prophet) said: "And indeed I order you to be good to the women, for they are but captives with you over whom you have no power than that, except if they come with manifest evil behavior. If they do that, then abandon their beds and beat them with a beating that is not harmful. And if they obey you then you have no cause against them. Indeed you have rights over your women, and your women have rights over you. As for your rights over your women, then they must not allow anyone whom you dislike to treat on your bedding (furniture), nor to admit anyone in your home that you dislike. And their rights over you are that you treat them well in clothing them and feeding them."
Women lack mind and faith:
Prophet Mohamed said that women lack mind and faith, but he did not intend to insult them, but rather to remind men to treat them kindly. God said in Quran to bring two men as witnesses for loans, but if two men is not available, then two women and one man. God replaced the man with two women, and said that if one of them forgets, the other will remind her. God said that women forget, which means that there is a deficiency in their brains. Today science discovers that a woman's brain is smaller than a man's. How did Mohamed know this information 1400 years ago without advanced technology? The answer is God who created the brain of women told him.
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• Quran (2:282) ...Call upon two of your men to witness. If two men cannot be found, then one man and two women of your choice will witness - so if one of the women forgets the other may remind her...
As for the lack of faith, the reason is that Prophet Mohamed said that is because women are not allowed to pray, fast and read Quran during menstruation. When a woman purifies, God allows the woman to fast the missed days and not to pray the missed prayers. This means that men pray more than women.
• Prophet Mohamed said: I did not see more defective in respect of mind and religion than the wise of you (women). A woman asked: What is the defect of mind and religion? He replied: The defect of mind is the testimony of two women for one man, and the defect of faith is that one of you does not fast during Ramadan (when one is menstruating), and keep away from prayer for some days.
The wisdom is that God created a woman's brain smaller than a man's, not to underestimate her, but to help her forget, because He assigned her many responsibilities such as pregnancy, caring for children by breastfeeding them and her sympathy and concern for them, and many more. So God wants women to forget some of the suffering to help them reduce stress.
A Muslim male gets a double share of the inheritance over the female:
Quran says that the male gets a double share of the inheritance over the female, as in verse (4:11). But if you read Chapter 4 in Quran verses (7-14), you will find that the grandfather, grandmother, uncle and aunt also get a share of the inheritance, depending on each case.
The wisdom behind the male's share being twice that of the female is that the male is responsible for supporting the female if she goes bankrupt, as if she becomes widow, or if she never married, or she is unemployed and had no money. The wisdom behind this is, as I said above, that women lack mind, which means that a deceiver can pretend to love her, marry her to steal her money, and then divorce her. Therefore, God wants to protect the female by giving the male a double share, so in the event of her bankruptcy, the male bears the responsibility of providing for his sister. It is clear that Islam is fair for women and men, and a perfect solution.
The Bible also says that the man is the head of the wife.
• Ephesians (5:23) For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church...
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Last post by Joseph Islam - February 10, 2023, 06:30:19 PMQuote from: anothersoulonearth on February 10, 2023, 01:25:36 AM
Dear brother Joseph,
May peace be upon you
I know this is a very old postbut I came across it as I was going through the forum a couple of months ago. I had an idea I would like to share which is related to this topic (that's why I did not create a new thread).
I have spent many years learning from your immense knowledge and wisdom that the Lord has bestowed on you Alhamdulillah through the many things shared by you on the main website, forum, Facebook posts, etc. Including all of the other knowledgeable people who contributed to this forum throughout the years.
I was always worried about losing this website, so I am trying to archive everything (I have archived all of the main articles and all of your posts on the forum). I have just started, but since I am a programmer I have developed custom automation tools to help automate the process and make it fast by the grace of God and His mercy. This way I think I can bring all of the articles, posts, etc into one database, each interlinked and indexed with one unified search engine.
For example, one idea I had was to show all the forum posts and Facebook posts that reference a piece of article in the article page itself. It would be useful to enhance the article with supporting arguments and answers to different questions people had over the many years.
Most importantly (the main focus), I want to make sure the whole archive would be downloadable with your permission and copyright, this way inshAllah the immense work you have done will live on and help the future generations as well inshAllah. I have been reading this website for many years but I was always worried what if one day it shuts down like some other websites. This way inshAllah anyone who wants can just download the whole thing so they can keep it forever. You can even keep the download link in the quransmessage website.
Please let me know what you think and if you have any more ideas we can add to this
Best Regards
Dear Anothersoulonearth,
May peace be with you too.
This is a noble idea and I do encourage all to share and support the dissemination of the thoughts/sentiments and material pertaining to this website/forums as best they can. As you will no doubt appreciate, spreading any type of goodness/assistance can take many forms and may God bless all those that partake in any of the activities they undertake. Albeit I have endeavoured hard to keep the websites / repositories active/online as best as I can, you are correct that there will always remain the risk you articulate for one reason or another. So any mitigations remain worthwhile.
Thank you for also providing due care/note regarding copyright/permission. It always remain key that the source authorship(s) can remain traceable. I would be more than happy to provide a link on this website with any supporting work that is carried out.
May God bless you always kind soul.
Regards,
Joseph
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Last post by HasanAFB - February 10, 2023, 12:34:30 PMDear anothersoulonearth,
I fully support this idea and share your concern when you say that "I was always worried about losing this website".
I fully support this idea and share your concern when you say that "I was always worried about losing this website".
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Discussions / Re: Is it possible to make a c...
Last post by anothersoulonearth - February 10, 2023, 01:25:36 AMDear brother Joseph,
May peace be upon you
I know this is a very old post
but I came across it as I was going through the forum a couple of months ago. I had an idea I would like to share which is related to this topic (that's why I did not create a new thread).I have spent many years learning from your immense knowledge and wisdom that the Lord has bestowed on you Alhamdulillah through the many things shared by you on the main website, forum, Facebook posts, etc. Including all of the other knowledgeable people who contributed to this forum throughout the years.
I was always worried about losing this website, so I am trying to archive everything (I have archived all of the main articles and all of your posts on the forum). I have just started, but since I am a programmer I have developed custom automation tools to help automate the process and make it fast by the grace of God and His mercy. This way I think I can bring all of the articles, posts, etc into one database, each interlinked and indexed with one unified search engine.
For example, one idea I had was to show all the forum posts and Facebook posts that reference a piece of article in the article page itself. It would be useful to enhance the article with supporting arguments and answers to different questions people had over the many years.
Most importantly (the main focus), I want to make sure the whole archive would be downloadable with your permission and copyright, this way inshAllah the immense work you have done will live on and help the future generations as well inshAllah. I have been reading this website for many years but I was always worried what if one day it shuts down like some other websites. This way inshAllah anyone who wants can just download the whole thing so they can keep it forever. You can even keep the download link in the quransmessage website.
Please let me know what you think and if you have any more ideas we can add to this
Best Regards