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General Discussions / Re: Does evil eye exists?

« on: February 01, 2017, 03:50:37 AM »

Peace be upon you

Actually I think there's support from the Quran that something like "evil-eye" exists.

And from the evil of an envier when he envies. (Quran 113:5)

So here we see that there's some sort of evil when someone envies someone else, and that we need to take refuge in God from it. I'm not really educated in the whole subject of "evil-eye" but I think this verse supports the fact that envying someone can cause some sort of evil as well.

Correct me if I made a mistake, hope that answers the question.

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General Discussions / Re: question about the word "than" or "zan"

« on: September 11, 2016, 04:20:00 AM »

Peace be upon you

Here is the meaning of the word from Edward Lanes Lexicon. I copied the below from the site http://www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm, which I recommend to use when you are in doubt about a meaning.

To think, suppose, doubt, assume, deem, believe, know, imagine, suspect, conjunctive, be sure of something in view of one's observations. As a general rule often this verb is succeeded by 'anna or 'an, that means to be sure about.

Zanna (prf. 3rd. p.m. sing, assim.): He thought, imagined, deemed, assumed, believed, conjectured, suspected; He was sure.
Zanantu (prf. 1st, p.m. sing.): I was sure.
Zannaa  (prf. 3rd. p.m. dual.): The twain thought.
Zannuu (prf. 3rd. p.m. plu.): They imagined.
Zanantum (prf. 2nd p.m. plu.): Ye thought.
Zananna (prf. 1st. p. plu.): We thought.
Yazunnu (imp. 3rd. p.m. sing.): He thinks.
Tazunnu (imp. 3rd. p. f. sing.): She thinks.
Azunnu (imp. 1st. P. sing.): I think.
Yazunnuuna (imp. 3rd, p. in. plu.): They know, believe, conjuncture.
Tazunnuuna (imp. 2nd. p.m. plu.): You entertained wrong thoughts.
Nazunnu (imp. 1st. p. plu.): We deem.
Zannun/Zannan  (nom./acc.n.): Thinking; Conjecture.
Zunuuna (n. plu.): Diverse thoughts.
Zaanniina (act. pic. n. plu.): Entertainers of evil thought.

 
يظنون yathunnoona - They know/believe/conjecture [2:46, 78, 249; 3:154; 45:24]
 
ظنا thannaan - Thinking, conjecture, idea [2:230; 10:36; 45:32]
 
ظن thannu/a - He thought, imagined, deemed, believed, assumed, conjectured, suspected; He was sure [3:154; 10:60; 12:42; 24:12; 38:27; 48:6, 12; 84:14]
 
الظن thanni/a - [4:157; 6:116, 148; 10:36, 66; 49:12 (2x); 53:23; 28 (2x)]
 
لنظنك thunnuka - Believe, think [7:66]
 
وظنوا thannoo - They imagined [7:171; 9:118; 10:22; 12:110; 28:39; 41:48; 59:2]
 
ظننتم thanantum - You thought [41:22, 23; 48:12; 59:2; 72:7]
 
ظنوا thannoo - They thought [72:7]
 
وظن thanna - Conclude [10:24; 38:24; 75:28]
 
نظنكم nathunnu - We think [11:27]
 
وتظنون thunnoona - Diverse thoughts, You thought [17:52; 33:10]
 
لاظنك thunnu - I think [17:101, 102]
 
فظنوا thannoo - They imagined [18:53]
 
فظن thanna - He imagined [21:87]
 
يظن yathunnu - He thinks [22:15; 83:4]
 
نظنك nathunnu - We deem [26:186]
 
لاظنه athunnu - I think [28:38; 40:37]
 
ظنه thanna - His idea [34:20]
 
ظنكم thannu - [37:87; 41:23]
 
نظن nathunnu - We deem [45:32]
 
الظانين thanneena - Entertainers of evil thought [48:6]
 
ظننت thanantu - I was sure [69:20]
 
ظننا thanannaan - We thought [72:5, 12]
 
تظن Tathunnu - She thinks [75:25]
LL, V5, pages: 209 http://www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume5/00000209.pdf, 210 http://www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume5/00000210.pdf, 211 http://www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume5/00000211.pdf

You can check from other lexicons from here as well: http://ejtaal.net/aa/#q=Znn

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General Discussions / Re: Fitnah definition-- A Question for Joseph

« on: August 17, 2016, 05:16:21 AM »

You're welcome brother , thank God for helping you understand it, and helping me to explain it.
Peace.

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General Discussions / Re: Fitnah definition-- A Question for Joseph

« on: August 17, 2016, 05:03:15 AM »

There is not really a primary or secondary definition of a word as I think? But places that can actually even be translated to disbelief and make sense is less in the Quran.

Yes the transition of the verses can be correct, fitnah does also mean disbelief, but one should not read ayaas in isolation. There are other ayaas that are against forced faith. If the Quran says there should be no compulsion in religion, then if fitnah would be translated to disbelief, it would not make sense. So we should always find the best meaning of the word in the light of Quran's guidance.

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General Discussions / Re: Do i need consent from first wife in order to do second marriage?

« on: August 17, 2016, 02:20:56 AM »

If wife disagrees and the husband still marries a second wife, that is extremely hurtful to the first wife. If God says we should treat them kindly, is such an treatment kind? Secondly, such an act can cause immense negative impacts on the first wife's emotions, and although it does not hurt them physically, it does emotionally which at times can even be worse. When God says we should not retain woman for injury/HURT (2:231), does this act cause great hurt to her? As we can see such an action goes against 2 of the ayaat of God, which clearly shows the immoral nature of it. Hence the injustice done to the first wife.

The consent of the first wife is a must, in order for it to be morally right, hence the treatment of one's wives with justice. Otherwise it is just unfaithfulness.

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General Discussions / Re: Fitnah definition-- A Question for Joseph

« on: August 17, 2016, 02:01:49 AM »

It depends on what the translator translates the word fitnah into, as I told you it has a variety of meanings. Although it can mean disbelief. "deviation from the right way. (M, Ḳ.) And Infidelity; or unbelief: (T, M, Ḳ:)" - Edward Lane's Lexicon.

However the Quran uses the word kufr (ك ف ر) to address disbelief, and so a question arises as to why fitnah is sometimes translated to disbelief when the Quran uses another word which is very clear to denote disbelief.

In general the Quran does not use the word fitnah for disbelief, but translators do translate fitnah to disbelief, one for example would be “And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allaah)” [al-Baqarah 2:193]
Again a question would arise, as to why God did not use the word kufr to make his point very clear, but instead used the word fitnah, if he wanted to say disbelief.

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General Discussions / Re: Do i need consent from first wife in order to do second marriage?

« on: August 16, 2016, 08:29:02 PM »

Peace be upon you

Justice does not really only mean proper distribution of rights.
Meaning of justice - the quality of being just, impartial, or fair [1]
And the meaning of just - treating people in a way that is considered morally right [2]

So we should treat our wives with justice, with a way that is considered morally right. As per the Quran as it states - "...and treat them kindly..." Quran 4:19. Marrying another wife without the consent of the first wife, will hurt her. And that treatment of her will be extremely unkind, hence it will be injustice.

Thats what I understand of it, indeed God knows best.

[1] - http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/justice
[2] - http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/just

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General Discussions / Re: Fitnah definition-- A Question for Joseph

« on: August 16, 2016, 08:05:40 PM »

Peace be upon you

In the meanwhile while Brother Joseph answers, I would like to give my response to it as well.

The root word is Fa-Ta-Nun ف ت ن
Meaning - to try or prove, persecute, burn, assay, put into affliction, distress and hardship, slaughter, cause to err, seduce from faith by any means, mislead, sow dissension or difference of opinion, mischief, put in confusion, punish, give reply or excuse, tempt, lead to temptation, make an attempt upon, seduce. fitnatun - persecution, trial, probation, burning, assaying, reply, excuse, war, means whereby the condition of a person is evinced in respect of good or evil, hardship, punishment, answer, temptation, burning with fire.

The places the word fitna is used as a verb in the Quran: [1]
perf. act. 6:53, 20:40, 20:85, 29:3, 38:24, 38:34, 44:17, 57:14, 85:10
impf. act. 4:101, 5:49, 7:27, 9:49, 10:83, 17:73, 20:131, 72:17
perf. pass. 16:110, 20:90
impf. pass. 9:126, 27:47, 29:2, 51:13
n.vb. 20:40
pcple. act. 37:162
pcple. pass. 68:6

Meaning trial, to put in hardship, being tempted, etc.

The places the word fitna is used as a noun in the Quran:
2:102, 2:191, 2:193, 2:217, 3:7, 4:91, 5:41, 5:71, 6:23, 7:155, 8:25, 8:28, 8:39, 8:73, 9:47, 9:48, 9:49, 10:85, 17:60, 21:35, 21:111, 22:11, 22:53, 24:63, 25:20, 29:10, 33:14, 37:63, 39:49, 51:14, 54:27, 60:5, 64:15, 74:31

The places you cited 8:39, 2:191 and 2:193 are all using the noun form.
The word used in 8:39 فِتْنَةٌ has a many meanings, but as God said we should always follow the best meaning.
039:018
"Those who listen to the Word (the Quran) and follow the best meaning in it / best of it (Arabic: fayattabi'una ahsanahu) those are the ones whom God has guided and those are the one's endowed with understanding (Arabic: Albabi)

So the meaning "it signifies also Punishment, castigation, or chastisement. (T, M, Ḳ.) And Slaughter: (T:) and civil war, or conflict occurring among people: (M:) and slaughter, and war, and faction, or sedition" - From Edward Lane's Lexicon
You can find the complete meaning of the word from here http://lexicon.quranic-research.net/data/20_f/023_ftn.html

You can also confirm the meaning of the word by going through the lexicons available here http://ejtaal.net/aa/#q=ftn

If I was wrong, please correct me hope that somewhat answers the question in the meanwhile.


[1] - http://www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm

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General Discussions / Re: Is hell terminable for muslims?

« on: August 14, 2016, 04:03:56 AM »

Peace be upon you

I think the FB post you are looking for is,
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.a.islam/posts/501404783329987

Please also read the comments as I think you can find answers from it

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General Discussions / Re: 29:51

« on: August 13, 2016, 04:07:57 AM »

Peace be upon you

The previous ayaa is "But they say, "Why are not signs sent down to him from his Lord?" Say, "The signs are only with God , and I am only a clear warner.", then the next ayaa says "And is it not sufficient for them that We revealed to you the Book which is recited to them?"

This is clearly a response to the claim that the Prophet (PBUH) did not have any signs, and God responds that is not enough that a book is revealed to him. This ayaa cannot mean that we are not allowed to read other religious books.

Hope that answers your question.

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General Discussions / Re: Sons>Daughters (?)

« on: August 04, 2016, 04:27:59 PM »

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The line "or has he chosen, of what he has created, daughters over sons" is just a criticism of their claim. Thats what they used to claim, the claimed that God would choose their daughters and they would have their sons and they would kill their daughters for God.

The claim of the christians for example is also criticized in the Quran.
As it is, some assert, "The Most Gracious has taken unto Himself a son„!
Indeed, [by this assertion] you have brought forth something monstrous,
whereat the heavens might well-nigh be rent into fragments, and the earth be split asunder, and the mountains fall down in ruins!
That men. should ascribe a son to the Most Gracious, (19:88-91)

God criticizes any claim that ascribes a son to God, or a daughter to God.

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General Discussions / Re: Do i need consent from first wife in order to do second marriage?

« on: July 30, 2016, 06:55:53 PM »

Peace be upon you

"...But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one..." [4:3] Sahih International
Well since Allah says you are allowed only when you can do justice, so the first wife must agree with it, then only it will be justice, as her not agreeing to it and you still do it can be extremely hurtful, thus it will fall under the category of injustice as I understand it.

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General Discussions / Re: What ARE the differences between Hafs and Warsh??

« on: July 28, 2016, 03:08:10 PM »

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I never said the words are different, I just mean there could be different spelling differences that don't have an overall impact on the message of the Quran. If a muslim only reads the Hafs version, and another muslim reads only the Warsh version, will you ever see a difference in their practices? No major sects are created from the variations of the Quran due to its very minor differences.

And please don't say like that , just because you don't understand this, and your trying to find answers doesn't make you a disbeliever and despised by God? Despised by the most loving and merciful?

And again maybe I am wrong as I am not very educated on this subject, but to what I know, yes there is differences, but firstly the do not bring anything new, as in a new law or of that sort, and again God already fulfilled the promise to protect its meaning.

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General Discussions / Re: What ARE the differences between Hafs and Warsh??

« on: July 28, 2016, 02:29:14 PM »

Peace be upon you

First of all I would like to remind everyone and myself that this discussion is to please God and understand his book more, and so we should have patience and ask our Lord to increase us in knowledge.

As of what I understand, if God would have said He would protect the words of the Quran, but the meaning could have changed over time. So there would only be one Quran, but we would not have known the meanings of the words that the people at the time of Prophet Muhammad would be familiar with.

But God simply promised to protect its meaning, so we have many classical arabic lexicons that help us understand what each word meant at that time. The reason that God did not promise to protect both the words and meaning, is based on His wisdom that I don't know why, and there is much wisdom behind that which can't be understood.

And also the word differences do not have an big impact on the overall message, as the words are only having differences in spelling, as no word or verse is added to create a new law or story, thus also proving the fact that God fulfilled the promise of guarding its meaning and message.

Hope that answers the question , sorry if I made any mistake, and if I did please tell me

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General Discussions / Re: have all they desire jannah

« on: July 17, 2016, 11:05:35 PM »

Peace be upon you

I think the ayaa you are referring to is
"There they have all that they desire, and there is more with Us." (50:35) Pickthall

Another ayaa is
"We are your protecting friends in the life of the world and in the Hereafter. There ye will have (all) that your souls desire, and there ye will have (all) for which ye pray." (41:31) Pickthall

It says all that our souls desire, so like the example you gave, wishing for a car is plausible in Jannah. As in someone desires to drive a car with high speeds with no danger, they can do that in Jannah as they desire it.