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General Discussions / Re: Why has Meaning not been preserved?
« on: June 08, 2014, 04:36:05 AM »
If Allah had stated in plain language all truths the people would have run away from Quran, for instance, verses connected to evolution....

if Allah had stated in the plain language we should stay away from secondary sources like hadiths,   the Quran would not have remained in its original form now. 

A time is coming when people will realize and appreciate Quranic truths...the whole world is slowly moving (evolutionary pace) towards Quranic truths.

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General Discussions / Re: Sura 2:28
« on: June 08, 2014, 04:28:33 AM »
This  verse explains only these stages we were lifeless and nothing أَمْوَاتًا .....God created us....we will die and given life again.  It is not necessary that there should be a life earlier when Allah says we were أَمْوَاتًا “dead” ....it is a stage when we were created from mud.   We weren’t alive before it, that was our first time being alive.

We are not to die [again,] beyond our previous death (37:58)

Nor will they there taste Death, except the first death (they had encountered earlier). (44:56)

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General Discussions / Re: 4:48 Vs 4:153
« on: June 08, 2014, 04:18:02 AM »
There is a big difference between doing a wrong in jahalath (ignorance) and doing the same thing after knowledge of it has been reached.  I believe this is the issue here.

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General Discussions / a "sahih" hadith!!
« on: June 08, 2014, 04:12:33 AM »
Here is a "Sahih" hadith recorded by Bukhari.

Volume 3, Book 31, Number 207: Narrated Abu Aiyub from Juwairiya bint Al-Harith:
The Prophet visited her (Juwairiya) on a Friday and she was fasting. He asked her, "Did you fast yesterday?" She said, "No." He said, "Do you intend to fast tomorrow?" She said, "No." He said, "Then break your fast." Through another series of narrators, Abu Aiyub is reported to have said, "He ordered her and she broke her fast."

 ???

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General Discussions / Re: Who is " He" in this Ayaah?
« on: May 10, 2014, 03:53:15 PM »
..................To avoid misunderstanding about me, just to clarify a comment you have made "it appears you simply cannot accept that a prophet could make an error (or even a small lapse) of judgement", please note, I did not make any implication in my post that the prophet did not make any lapse in the above incident, and nor do I believe that the prophet did not/ can not commit any erros or lapses in his life (the Quran itself mentions such incidents).

Assalamu Alaikum WR WB

Regards
Optimist

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General Discussions / Re: Who is " He" in this Ayaah?
« on: May 10, 2014, 02:02:43 PM »
Dear brother Joseph Islam,
Assalamu alaikum WR WB

In the second verse the Quran states

وَمَا يُدْرِيكَ لَعَلَّهُ يَزَّكَّىٰ

The verse is translated as And what would make thee know that he would purify himself

Who is HE in this verse? 

According to me;

1. Logically and even Linguistically, it is the the person who frowned and turned aside (mentioned in the first verse).   
2. This is the context of the subsequent warnings given to the prophet, i.e, even after noticing the arrogant man's actions the prophet kept on concentrating on him ignoring the blind.

Any comments? 

I will not get involved in further discussion.   Afterall, this is not a major issue of discussion.

Kind regards always
Optimist

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General Discussions / Re: Who is " He" in this Ayaah?
« on: May 10, 2014, 05:20:05 AM »
Salaaam!

Though the Quran uses 2nd person singular masculine 'anta' in 80:6 and 80:10, still, according to me, the first sentence need not necessarily to be linked to the prophet's action. 

1. The language of the Quranic text is very clear that the first verse is in the third person singular.

2. There is no reason why prophet cannot be addressed directly in verse 80:1, when prophet is directly addressed in the subsequent verses.

3.  The strong warnings mentioned in subsequent verses 80:3-10 could be linked to prophet's non-interference and keeping silence when the influential man from Quraish frowned and expressed strong displeasure at the blind person (may be the prophet could not decide quickly what to do at the circumstances, and if prophet had intervened quickly, it would have prevented the blind person getting humiliated).

4.  There is less possibility the influential man from Quraish did not express any displeasure and prophet expressed strong displeasure.  It is pertinent to note that this man from Quraish is already portrayed in the subsequent verses as very arrogant.

5.  The prophet's excellent character and exemplary conduct, certified so by the Quran itself, it is inconceivable that he would have behaved in such a undesirable manner.

Regards,
Optimist

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Islamic Duties / Re: Salath by Pervez
« on: May 03, 2014, 05:41:41 PM »
Salaam!

To know more about what does it mean "Central Authority" kindly refer to the below article

http://www.tolueislam.org/Parwez/articles/Basis_of_legislation.htm

Incidently, another scholar, Maulana Maudoodi, gave the following explanation for "Allah and Rasool" in Sura Al-Ma'ida in which it is stated, “The retribution for those who fight Allah and His messenger, and spread mischief in the land, is to be killed, or crucified, or to cut off their hands and feet on alternate sides, or to be banished from the land..." - (5:33)

Endorsing the above Ayat, Maulana Maudoodi writes in Tafheemul Quran:

"To fight against Allah and His Messenger means waging war against the system which the Islamic government has established." (Tafheemul Qur'an vol. I, page 465)

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General Discussions / Re: Fate of idolaters
« on: April 15, 2014, 11:57:30 PM »
Salaam!
Good answer brother Joseph Islam..!!
Alhamdulillah always
Regards,
Optimist

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Something very intelligent designed the switch from placental to pulmonary respiration that makes a newborn baby cry, a creative work that is quite exquisite and marvelous regardless of one’s convictions about the nature of its Creator. That intelligence should be held in humble respect by evolutionists and creationists alike. It contrasts sharply with the ignorance and crass arrogance of those who would put a clamp on a pulsating umbilical cord.
http://www.whale.to/a/morley4.html
Why Do Babies Cry? The Anatomical and Physiological Changes During the Moments After Birth

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General Discussions / Insha Allah
« on: March 23, 2014, 04:43:36 PM »
Dear All,
Salaam!

In the story of Moses meeting a Servant of Allah from verse 18:65 onwards, the following is mentioned;

قَالَ سَتَجِدُنِي إِنْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ صَابِرًا وَلَا أَعْصِي لَكَ أَمْرًا
Moses said: "Thou wilt find me, if Allah so will, (truly) patient: nor shall I disobey thee in aught."

However, Moses could not remain patient.

Any thoughts?

Regards
Optimist

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AND SO, set thy face steadfastly towards the [one ever-true] faith, turning away from all that is false, in accordance with the natural disposition which God has instilled into man: [for] not to allow any change to corrupt what God has thus created – this is the [purpose of the one] ever-true faith; but most people know it not.)30:30 (Mohamed Asad translation)

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There are communities in this world who eat dogs, there are others who eat horses. Sharks and frogs are part of regular diet for billions of people in China and Japan. In the large forest areas there are tribal people who live on all sorts of wild animals. We have become so blind-sighted in our prejudices that we believe these people are acting beyond their human nature - in other words we consider them sub-human - Allah does not bless them, nor their food - as if they are surviving for generations based on mercy of devil! This is a sorry pathetic state of our community. 
Salaam!

Kindly update us if you have any information whether in any remote jungles tribal people eat rats and cats.  This is just to check if you have a practical confirmation for something you consider as Islamic.  What is actually pathetic is to bring up those strange examples to confirm something Islamic.  These examples are only fit for a tv shows like BELIEVE IT OR NOT. 

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We have become so blind-sighted in our prejudices that we believe these people are acting beyond their human nature


They definitely go against instruction  in the Quran to adhere to the Fitrah in which God has created human being.   One does not need good logic to understand this point brother Arman.  Forget about rats and cats, this irrespective of any culture and nations, all people will start vomiting if they see a dish prepared from the meat of rats and cats on the table, the Quran does confirm the Fitrah (natural predisposition that exists at birth in all human beings) when it states in 6.142  "Of the Anaam are some for burden and some for meat".  Furthermore, verse 16.8 "And (He has created) horses, mules, and donkeys, for you to ride and use for show.  It is clear these animals are not meat for food.  Even people who do not have a divine guidance don't eat their meat which further confirms فِطْرَتَ اللَّهِ الَّتِي فَطَرَ النَّاسَ عَلَيْهَا

Regards
Optimist

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I have actually discussed this in my very first post. Per my understanding what this ayat is saying ... even something as commonly understood as halal as Grazing Livestock will no longer remain halal if you engage in prohibited hunting. The clear example of grazing livestock is brought here to illustrate that even in "the most explicit permissions" there are implicit underlying conditions which need to be observed... in following the scripture, as well as in fulfilling contracts.

The "Grazing Livestock" has come in this ayat as an example only.... there are several categories of obviously halal animals/creatures - like poultry and fish - outside grazing livestock. So, from a strictly academic and linguistic point of view it is not a valid argument that this ayat restricts halal animals to grazing livestock.
Salaam,

Sorry to bring up this topic again.  I have started to analyse the issue in a different perspective.

Firstly, your explanation for the context of the verse is not really convincing.   
I have started to understand that it need not necessarily "grazing animals" as such which is the point of discussion in the verse.  I noticed the following explanation given by "Beheema" by G.A.Parwez.

Beh, heh, miim
Al-bohma: solid rock   
Al-abhamo: solid and composite thing: dumb: ambiguous: without flow:
Bohma: difficult matter to understand:
Abhamal amro ibhama: the matter became ambiguous and it was beyond comprehension as how to solve it:
Hai tun mubhamun: means a wall which has no opening or door: Ibn Faris says that its basic meaning is for something to become such that no way towards it is perceived: or to become indistinct and ambiguous.
With reference to dumbness, baha-im (singular is al baheema) means all animals who cannot speak  or their voices are ambiguous and they cannot be understood: all animals including   aquatic animals are included in this: but the Muheet's compiler and Raghib both maintain that wild carnivores and birds are not included in this.


Therefore, baheemathul anhaam actually does not refer to grazing animals as such, but includes all animals who cannot speak or their voices are ambiguous, however, eating animals like DOGS, CATS, RATS and wild carnivores, etc are prohibited because there is clear instruction in the Quran in verse 30:30 to FOLLOW THE NATURE MADE BY GOD, THE NATURE ACCORDING TO WHICH HE HAS FASHIONED MANKIND.   The term nature "Fitrah" here means an inborn natural predisposition which cannot change, and which exists at birth in all human beings.   It is against natural predisposition to eat Rats and Dogs and wild carnivores.  It is not required to give any specific instruction not to eat rats and dogs, because the instruction is there already when Quran states you adhere to the firtah in which Allah created human being.  To state another instance, we humans do not eat or drink like cats and dogs and it would be foolishness to look for any express prohibition in the Quran against this. 

I have just started to think about the issue in a different way.  May Allah forgive me if I am making any error.  My only intention is to evaluate this reasoning if anyone can bring up strong objection.

And finally, to say that Quran permits eating creatures like rats and if anyone prefers to eat rats he has to slaughter it mentioning Allah's name and to be dedicated to Allah alone is a Monstrous crazy analysis. 

Regards,
Optimist

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Islamic Duties / Re: Prohibition of pictures
« on: February 22, 2014, 08:42:17 PM »
Thanks!

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