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General Discussions / Are Quranists too extreme?

« on: November 02, 2017, 05:25:49 AM »

Hi,

I was wondering if Quranists have become too extreme. I am a Quran follower and don't read the hadiths much. However when it comes to prayers I follow the way most Muslims pray. This is because I think that's what God taught our prophet and that's how it was practised. I think it's good that we all pray the same way as it brings us closer. However if Quranists want to pray a different way then I accept it even though I don't agree with it.

What is wrong with praying the was the vast majority of Muslims pray? It's not hard and as I said before I think it's good if everyone does it the same way as it brings us closer.

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General Discussions / Women in Janna/Heaven/Hereafter - what will they be like?

« on: November 02, 2017, 05:19:18 AM »

Hi,

What are peoples thoughts on what women will be like in heaven?

I think most Sunni's believe that women will be joined with their husbands and be their wives. I don't think this is right and believe that both men and women will be the same. There won't be gender anymore. Hence whatever men get, women will get as well which I think makes more sense.

Thanks

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General Discussions / Should only Muslims be allowed to visit the Kaaba in Mecca?

« on: October 19, 2017, 05:40:07 PM »

Hi,

Just wanted to get peoples thoughts on whether only Muslims should be allowed to visit the Kaaba. The Quran says that the Kaaba is for all men, it doesn't say that it's only for Muslims. My thoughts are that anyone should be allowed to visit regardless of their religion.

Thanks

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General Discussions / Testifying that God is our Lord before being born - Quran 7:172. Is this wrong?

« on: February 20, 2015, 09:33:05 AM »

Hi Joseph,

I read one of your posts where you state that our nafs testifies that God is our Lord.

It is the ‘nafs’ and not the embryo (biological material) that testifies. This is arguably at a stage when the nafs has not assumed it’s human form (at whatever stage that may be). Therefore, prior (or just prior) would be implied when a nafs is able to understand God’s communication directly and subsequently, respond.

http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=1389.msg6417#msg6417

I don't believe this interpretation is correct. Have you considered the interpretation given by Optimist below:

Well, according to me, if  we accept the traditional transalation to mean that this was an incident that took place before the advent of human being,  we will find it difficult to explain  the meaning of the subsequent verse that follows "lest you say on the Day of resurrection, "Verily, we were unaware of this"; or lest you say, "Verily, it was but our forefathers who, in times gone by, began to ascribe divinity to other beings beside God; and we were but their late offspring: wilt Thou, then, destroy us for the doings of those inventors of falsehoods?"    BECAUSE, since NOT ONE human being remembers such a ‘promise’ made before Allah and it does not make any sense to hold anyone responsible for violating the promise.  As per the traditional understanding it would mean that there is no need to send warners and prophets because according to the verse this pledge was sufficient enough NOT TO come up with any excuses like being unaware of the fact or being mislead by forefathers!!  However, Quran says in 17:16 that  Allah will NOT GIVE any punishment to any people or nation or towns UNLESS Allah has sent or appointed a messenger and they are sufficiently warned.

http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=865.msg3387#msg3387

According to my understanding God is saying he brought forth (raised) a generation from the children of Adam and made them testify that He was their Lord. The children of Adam already knew there was only one God as did Adam. The generation/some generations after the children of Adam maybe were not too clear or maybe God just wanted them to confirm their belief and He made them testify that he was their Lord. This was so that we can now no longer use the excuse that it was the earlier generations who started off the tradition/belief of having many gods.

I think it doesn't make sense to be held accountable for something which you testified to then made to forget it. That seems unfair and silly.

Thanks

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General Discussions / Saying PBUH after the name of prophet Mohammed and other prophets

« on: January 13, 2015, 05:19:43 AM »

Hi,

Are there any articles/posts on Josephs site/forum regarding the saying of "pbuh" after prophet Mohammed's name. I personally believe it's not compulsory as it's not in the Quran or Bible and even the hadith narrations don't have it. I'd appreciate any response/links.

Thanks