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Women / Doctors
« on: January 25, 2013, 01:03:35 AM »
Can a woman undress for a male doctor who isn't her relative? If the undressing is necessary to diagnose a disease or perform an operation?

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General Discussions / Re: Magic
« on: September 30, 2012, 03:12:00 AM »
Thank you Joseph. We have discussed your answer extensively.
My friend has set up a family meeting where her in-laws will try to convince the husband to seek medical help.
There has been a misunderstanding about my post: The "other woman" isn't married. The "wicth doctor" who suggested a "counter-spell" has actually said that my friend needed to replicate the same spell on her own husband, as means to "break" the one allegedly made by the other lady.
Something has also come to our attention while discussing your answer: the issue of suspicion. Nobody is sure the other lady has performed witchcraft. Those are just allegations. Slandering somebody is something very serious.
So as of right now, we are all praying and hoping the husband will either get proper professional care or come to his senses with the help of his family and friends.
One of her friends however, trying to defend a possible "spiritual guidance" from the "religious authorities" has come with a point, and I'd love to hear your take on it: if all help should be sougth from God, then why do we go to the doctor when we are ill?
Regards,
Karin

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General Discussions / Magic
« on: September 28, 2012, 04:29:48 PM »
Joseph, I need your help.  The question is about magic.
My friend is in great distress. About one and a half years ago, she was about 5 1/2 months pregnant when she heard from many different doctors her unborn baby had a malformation and wouldn't survive days after the birth. She had the baby aborted. Some months after the abortion, she started showing very strong signs of depression and anxiety, which were diagnosed as "Post-traumatic Stress Disorder". She has been on controlled medication since. Her husband by the other hand didn't show many signs of grief at the time.
About 8 months ago her husband has started acting very strangely: "like a zombie" - she says, and I have witnessed myself a strange blank expression on his face on both occasions I got to see him. He used to be a lovely family man, a good father, husband and friend, my friend says. But now he barely talks to anybody, only yells at their little girl and his mind seems to be "somewhere else" most of the time...
My friend says she is sure somebody has cast a spell on her husband. The circumstances which made her suspect the issue of  somebody "blowing into knots" are very long to detail, but they seem quite credible. The spell seems to have the objective of splitting the couple apart. There's a woman of "ill-repute" involved in the story whose best friend deals with "Black Magic".
So my distressed friend is desperately trying to save her family. She has consulted with couple religious authorities who deal with the issue of magic in Turkey. One has advised her to put a specific prayer in a bucket of water and give the water to her family to drink every day. He has also advised her to find a way to make her husband shower with that water, which my friend successfully did. She claims her husband changed right after that shower, but returned to his strange mood some days later. Another religious authority has told her that the "jinns have informed him" there is a spell cast on my friend's family for sure, and the only way to break the spell cast by the woman of "ill-repute" is for my friend to cast on her husband the same spell the other lady supposedly did.
She has asked my opinion, and I told her I do believe the power of Magic, as there are references about in the Quran. But I think her husband may just be clinically depressed... after all, it was his baby too, you know? And different people react to pain in different ways. I have advised her to take him to a psychiatrist.
She is however concerned: what if the doctor says there's nothing physically wrong with her husband? What if there's really a spell cast on him? What should she do? Should she follow the religious authority's advice and make another spell to break the first one? I told her she would be playing with fire (literally), and the best remedy for things like that would be lots of prayer and patience.
What about the prayer in water thing? Can it be considered ablution and not magic?
What is your take in this story Joseph? Can you help her? She is really suffering and doesn't know what to do...

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