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General Discussions / Re: How To Refute This Article on Hadith?
« on: November 02, 2019, 03:05:48 AM »
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Is Zihar mentioned in classical arabic dictionaries/works that did not take it from hadith?

I don't know as I've never looked into that.

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It seems the article is claiming that it was only in the hadith...

They say "hadith literature defines zihar as". They never explicitly say it's only mentioned in hadith and not classical arabic dictionaries/works (i.e. non-hadith).

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"..and they specify a dictionary which has taken it from the hadith.

Can you provide a quote from the article?

Hate to put you out, but can you refute every point in the article?

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General Discussions / Re: How To Refute This Article on Hadith?
« on: October 31, 2019, 06:56:23 AM »
If you read the article they mention examples.

They mentioned one example (zihar) and never said it wasn't discussed in Classical Arabic dictionaries/works (i.e. non-Hadith source).

Fail.

Is Zihar mentioned in classical arabic dictionaries/works that did not take it from hadith?  It seems the article is claiming that it was only in the hadith and they specify a dictionary which has taken it from the hadith.

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General Discussions / Re: How To Refute This Article on Hadith?
« on: October 30, 2019, 08:20:27 PM »
Here is another link:

http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=2708.msg13913#msg13913

Interesting.  Thank you brother. 

I wonder if these rare words that are used once or twice would fall under the category of "ambiguous verses"  which means people would try to interpret them to create deviation and only God Knows their true interpretation.

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General Discussions / Re: How To Refute This Article on Hadith?
« on: October 30, 2019, 04:45:33 AM »
If you read the article they mention examples.

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General Discussions / How To Refute This Article on Hadith?
« on: October 30, 2019, 12:17:40 AM »
https://yaqeeninstitute.org/emadhamdeh/are-hadith-necessary/#.XbXzhr8pDDs

Specifically the argument on Arabic Dictionary and how the quranic arabic was preserved via hadith.  If I understand correctly the article is claiming that hadith defines words in the QUran that do not have a definition anywhere else.

Is it true Edip Yuksel translation of the QUran is missing words and he would only be able to get the translation via the Hadith corpus?

Thanks

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