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General Discussions / Quran presenting a different Geography for the Exodus
« on: November 18, 2015, 04:09:10 PM »
Many of you are familiar with the Exodus story of Moses and Pharaoh and the freedom of the Israelites
There is little to Zero archaeological evidence for the exodus of the large number of Israelites from Egypt to Palestine. No signs of pottery or items or any evidence of a large influx of people into Palestine. No evidence of a revolutionary Israelite leader bringing them across the Red Sea.
In Arabia the Untold Story, the authors ascertain that the author of the Quran’s description of the Exodus describes a very different type of exodus on a different land.
1) The author of the Quran always talks about the people of Ad, Thamud and Firaun together as if to indicate that they are a sequential timeline of civilizations within a proximate area. (38:22, 85:17, 89:6)
2) The author never mentions anything about Pyramids or slaves building grand structures for Firaun and neither does the Old Testament. (No mention of Israelite slaves in Egyptian Monuments as well)
3) The author mentions “Misr/Mitzraim” as the name while ancient Egypt was never known by this name. Kemet was the very old name for the region and the later Arabic was “Qibt”. Greek Aegyptos. (43:51)
4) The word “Fir’aun”/Faraoun is an Arabic word which means chieftain while ancient Egyptian kings were never called pharaohs. (Eg. Neb-Bahti-Ra, Jsr-Ka–Ra..etc but no pharaoh. Coincidentally, the author never uses any plural for Firaun and the king in Joseph’s story (also possibly on the same land) is referred to as “Azeez” (King) and not pharaoh as well.
5) Man in Firaun’s court mentions the fate of past nations of Aad and Thamud. (40:28) Doesn’t make sense if the place is Egypt and he is talking about other nations from other areas.
6) Firaun tells his people that he knows of no other Lord for his people than himself. (28:38) The Egyptian kings however worshipped many gods and goddesses.
7) Firaun orders Haman to fire up mud clay to make a high platform to see Moses’s God. (28:38) Such building methodology was never used in Egypt.
Firaun’s soldier who goes in search of the escaping Israelites refers to them as a “small band”. (26:53) Nowhere near the huge number that is understood today.
9) Firaun’s soliders are able to see Israelites at the other end of the Stream crossing. (26:52). This is definitely not possible on the Red Sea.
10) God struck the land of Misr with a earthquake and Fir’aun’s buildings and grand structures are levelled to the ground (7:137). But all the grand Egyptian Monuments and Pyramids are still standing tall today.
11) After Firaun’s forces are drowned, The Children of Israel inherit the SAME land of gardens and springs that Firaun ruled and his body is preserved in the drowning for them to see. (26:53-59) The Israelites never took over Egypt and no evidence of any Egyptian king drowning the Red Sea.
What are your views? Could the theatre of events and the land on which they happened been corrupted by the later Roman Emperors as it could have by the Greeks in the Septuagint Bible? Are we believing the correct story accepting that Moses (pbuh) was in Egypt despite the complete lack of evidence for any Israelite mirgration from Egypt to Palestine.
There is little to Zero archaeological evidence for the exodus of the large number of Israelites from Egypt to Palestine. No signs of pottery or items or any evidence of a large influx of people into Palestine. No evidence of a revolutionary Israelite leader bringing them across the Red Sea.
In Arabia the Untold Story, the authors ascertain that the author of the Quran’s description of the Exodus describes a very different type of exodus on a different land.
1) The author of the Quran always talks about the people of Ad, Thamud and Firaun together as if to indicate that they are a sequential timeline of civilizations within a proximate area. (38:22, 85:17, 89:6)
2) The author never mentions anything about Pyramids or slaves building grand structures for Firaun and neither does the Old Testament. (No mention of Israelite slaves in Egyptian Monuments as well)
3) The author mentions “Misr/Mitzraim” as the name while ancient Egypt was never known by this name. Kemet was the very old name for the region and the later Arabic was “Qibt”. Greek Aegyptos. (43:51)
4) The word “Fir’aun”/Faraoun is an Arabic word which means chieftain while ancient Egyptian kings were never called pharaohs. (Eg. Neb-Bahti-Ra, Jsr-Ka–Ra..etc but no pharaoh. Coincidentally, the author never uses any plural for Firaun and the king in Joseph’s story (also possibly on the same land) is referred to as “Azeez” (King) and not pharaoh as well.
5) Man in Firaun’s court mentions the fate of past nations of Aad and Thamud. (40:28) Doesn’t make sense if the place is Egypt and he is talking about other nations from other areas.
6) Firaun tells his people that he knows of no other Lord for his people than himself. (28:38) The Egyptian kings however worshipped many gods and goddesses.
7) Firaun orders Haman to fire up mud clay to make a high platform to see Moses’s God. (28:38) Such building methodology was never used in Egypt.
Firaun’s soldier who goes in search of the escaping Israelites refers to them as a “small band”. (26:53) Nowhere near the huge number that is understood today.
9) Firaun’s soliders are able to see Israelites at the other end of the Stream crossing. (26:52). This is definitely not possible on the Red Sea.
10) God struck the land of Misr with a earthquake and Fir’aun’s buildings and grand structures are levelled to the ground (7:137). But all the grand Egyptian Monuments and Pyramids are still standing tall today.
11) After Firaun’s forces are drowned, The Children of Israel inherit the SAME land of gardens and springs that Firaun ruled and his body is preserved in the drowning for them to see. (26:53-59) The Israelites never took over Egypt and no evidence of any Egyptian king drowning the Red Sea.
What are your views? Could the theatre of events and the land on which they happened been corrupted by the later Roman Emperors as it could have by the Greeks in the Septuagint Bible? Are we believing the correct story accepting that Moses (pbuh) was in Egypt despite the complete lack of evidence for any Israelite mirgration from Egypt to Palestine.