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General Discussions / Re: On the soul
« on: May 07, 2014, 05:08:34 AM »
Why didn´t God rebuke Adam and gave him a second Chance and make the whole process reverse ?Where is the Mercy?
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General Discussions / Re: Does Paradise Already Exist?
« on: May 07, 2014, 05:00:07 AM »
"Verse 21:104 clearly mentions that the existing universe (samaa) will cease to exist and a new world will be created. It does not say that 'paradise' already exists. According to this verse, the second creation implies a world other than the existing one.
In the verse (21:30) that you have kindly shared, it only mentions the existing world (samawaat). There is no mention of the next world in this verse.
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Maybe Paradies still exist outer Space in another Dimension possibly beacuse in Sura 7:23 There you read that Adam/his spouse and the People coming after him will live on earth for a while ,but he did not mention that he will destroy the Paradies.
(23) He said: Go down (from hence), one of you a foe unto the other. There will be for you on earth a habitation and provision for a while. (24) He said: There shall ye live, and there shall ye die, and thence shall ye be brought forth.
We live and die on earth but Paradies still exist
In the verse (21:30) that you have kindly shared, it only mentions the existing world (samawaat). There is no mention of the next world in this verse.
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Maybe Paradies still exist outer Space in another Dimension possibly beacuse in Sura 7:23 There you read that Adam/his spouse and the People coming after him will live on earth for a while ,but he did not mention that he will destroy the Paradies.
(23) He said: Go down (from hence), one of you a foe unto the other. There will be for you on earth a habitation and provision for a while. (24) He said: There shall ye live, and there shall ye die, and thence shall ye be brought forth.
We live and die on earth but Paradies still exist
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General Discussions / Re: On the soul
« on: May 06, 2014, 05:19:19 PM »
Where is the mercy?
They had everthing in Paradies,it was made for them to live there ,it served them and then suddenly there was this Tree ,this was the only Thing for them which was forbidden for them to touch/taste.They were without knowledge of injust.
Its like leaving Kids in a room infront of them candy and it is forbidden for them to eat from them,you leave the room for a Long time and guess what happend when you came back,some Kids ate them.
Because the allmighty knew what will happen when there is a forbidden tree,it seems to me that it was planned from the beginning,to push the out of Paradies.
Question is who is blame for it ,Adam and his spouse,the tree,Satan or ...i don´t want to hurt somebody so i leave the last possibility.
They had everthing in Paradies,it was made for them to live there ,it served them and then suddenly there was this Tree ,this was the only Thing for them which was forbidden for them to touch/taste.They were without knowledge of injust.
Its like leaving Kids in a room infront of them candy and it is forbidden for them to eat from them,you leave the room for a Long time and guess what happend when you came back,some Kids ate them.
Because the allmighty knew what will happen when there is a forbidden tree,it seems to me that it was planned from the beginning,to push the out of Paradies.
Question is who is blame for it ,Adam and his spouse,the tree,Satan or ...i don´t want to hurt somebody so i leave the last possibility.
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General Discussions / Re: On the soul
« on: May 06, 2014, 01:47:00 AM »
Salam Goodlogic,
You wrote
"Contrary to common belief, the "Original Sin" was not Adam's violation of God's law when he ate from the forbidden tree."
I remember that in the Quran it was not a fruit that was forbidden to eat which is view of christianity,instead it was the hole Tree which was forbidden to go near.
So we lived before Adam and we are punished now in this life for our sin in the first life
You wrote
"Contrary to common belief, the "Original Sin" was not Adam's violation of God's law when he ate from the forbidden tree."
I remember that in the Quran it was not a fruit that was forbidden to eat which is view of christianity,instead it was the hole Tree which was forbidden to go near.
So we lived before Adam and we are punished now in this life for our sin in the first life
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General Discussions / Re: On the soul
« on: May 05, 2014, 06:15:50 AM »
I had to think about this first(second)life!
Was this life in Paradies?
Was this life in Paradies?
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General Discussions / Re: Why should we face towards the Kaaba(mecca) while praying ?
« on: May 05, 2014, 05:23:52 AM »
Salam Joseph,
Yes,this clarifies my question i am satisfied with it,thanks
best regards
Yes,this clarifies my question i am satisfied with it,thanks
best regards
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General Discussions / Re: Why should we face towards the Kaaba(mecca) while praying ?
« on: May 05, 2014, 03:39:32 AM »
Salam Joseph,
Your Articles are plausible but why does the Quran quoted that he is the Lord of the east and west?And you find a passage where you are allowed to pray while you are riding a horse or while you are walking,its hard to stay in direction when you are moving constantly.
And as a Message for all mankind a prayer direction to a place in Arabia makes a Preference of a People/Nation over the rest of mankind.
I don´t want to start a debate with you i just have doubts about the qibla to a certain place instead i appreciate a direction which has a universal message (East/West).
Your Articles are plausible but why does the Quran quoted that he is the Lord of the east and west?And you find a passage where you are allowed to pray while you are riding a horse or while you are walking,its hard to stay in direction when you are moving constantly.
And as a Message for all mankind a prayer direction to a place in Arabia makes a Preference of a People/Nation over the rest of mankind.
I don´t want to start a debate with you i just have doubts about the qibla to a certain place instead i appreciate a direction which has a universal message (East/West).
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General Discussions / Re: On the soul
« on: May 04, 2014, 10:47:07 PM »
I asked about the pre-existence of the Soul because there is an ayat which me thinking of this possibility"And (remember) when thy Lord brought forth from the Children of Adam, from their reins, their seed, and made them testify of themselves, (saying): Am I not your Lord? They said: Yea, verily. We testify. (That was) lest ye should say at the Day of Resurrection: Lo! of this we were unaware; (172) "
So everyone of us did testify before our life on earth that the Lord is our creator but some of us do not remember
So everyone of us did testify before our life on earth that the Lord is our creator but some of us do not remember
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General Discussions / Re: Why should we face towards the Kaaba(mecca) while praying ?
« on: May 04, 2014, 07:08:48 PM »
I am lazy to go through all the pages 
What are your final thoughts to the Topic,should we pray to one direction whereas it is quoted that he is the Lord of the east and west, but in another vers i read something with where ever you go out of it turn your face to the House,in words like this.
regards
What are your final thoughts to the Topic,should we pray to one direction whereas it is quoted that he is the Lord of the east and west, but in another vers i read something with where ever you go out of it turn your face to the House,in words like this.
regards
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General Discussions / Re: On the soul
« on: May 04, 2014, 07:00:30 PM »
I have a question about the Soul:Is the Soul created at the Moment when the coitus was succesful or did our existed Long before that,simply asked did we existed before our life here on earth?
regards
regards
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General Discussions / Re: AD-Djabal and AT-Thour
« on: May 04, 2014, 05:53:45 PM »
Thank you Joseph for clarification,
Coming to know that "Thour" is a Place where Prophet Moses got Revelation,one had to read the first ayats of Sura 53 in a n other view.
It is beginnig with "Thour" and the next ayats is belonging to it,in my humble view.The closest Translation to this view is the Translation of Jusuf Ali"By the Mount (of Revelation); (1) By a Decree Inscribed (2) In a Scroll unfolded; (3) By the much-frequented Fane; (4)"
Are this ayats showing us the Story of Musas Inspiration of God to write the Law down?And did he write them on parchment instead of Stone?And the much frequented Fane(in all foonotes you read Kaaba)is it much possible that it is another Place ?
Coming to know that "Thour" is a Place where Prophet Moses got Revelation,one had to read the first ayats of Sura 53 in a n other view.
It is beginnig with "Thour" and the next ayats is belonging to it,in my humble view.The closest Translation to this view is the Translation of Jusuf Ali"By the Mount (of Revelation); (1) By a Decree Inscribed (2) In a Scroll unfolded; (3) By the much-frequented Fane; (4)"
Are this ayats showing us the Story of Musas Inspiration of God to write the Law down?And did he write them on parchment instead of Stone?And the much frequented Fane(in all foonotes you read Kaaba)is it much possible that it is another Place ?
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General Discussions / AD-Djabal and AT-Thour
« on: May 03, 2014, 06:03:25 AM »
I want to finish my Research about Noah with the landing of the Arche.
Maybe you´ve heard that some years ago turkish and chinese evangelists archaeologist have found some wooden structures on the Mount Ararat in the east of Turkey.This Mountain is over 5000meters high!
We find in the quran the passage that the Arche landed on"Djabal Djudi",some located this place near the Ararat,its a Hill and not a massiv Mountain.
No my question is,does "Djabal" mean Hill and "Thour" is the proper Translation of Mountain?
Regards
Maybe you´ve heard that some years ago turkish and chinese evangelists archaeologist have found some wooden structures on the Mount Ararat in the east of Turkey.This Mountain is over 5000meters high!
We find in the quran the passage that the Arche landed on"Djabal Djudi",some located this place near the Ararat,its a Hill and not a massiv Mountain.
No my question is,does "Djabal" mean Hill and "Thour" is the proper Translation of Mountain?
Regards
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General Discussions / Re: Do not take the disbelievers as allies ?
« on: May 03, 2014, 12:24:42 AM »
But what about Noah who stayed 50years with his People and Lot who offers his daughter to the mob.They know each other very well,Noah invited them with his message in houses and openly on the market.Some drink and did evil things but they stayed with there folk till they get order to leave them.
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Islamic Duties / Re: Belief in entire Quran in totality
« on: May 01, 2014, 05:46:36 PM »
I don´t want to judge about others but what about the Malikis who dont consider the basmala as part of the Quran,are they out of Islam?
And what makes a Person out of Islam,there are People who never read the Quran and are very open and friendly to the other.And there is the opposit People who are reading the quran but do mischief around them.
And what makes a Person out of Islam,there are People who never read the Quran and are very open and friendly to the other.And there is the opposit People who are reading the quran but do mischief around them.
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Islamic Duties / Re: Belief in entire Quran in totality
« on: May 01, 2014, 06:01:38 AM »
I think at the end of Sura 2 you find the answer where you find what a mumin has to belive in and one of them are "The Books"if you don´t belive one part of one Book look it up in the other Books and you find the answer.