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General Discussions / Re: Critique - DOES THE QURAN ALLOW ... DOGS, CATS, RATS ETC? by Arman Aziz
« on: January 31, 2014, 02:23:24 AM »Salaam Arman,
What Brother Joseph put in his article/writing is 100% correct. You need to show us as he does what proof you have on what you are saying.
What I find very sad is people still try to find ways to justify their actions wants and desires without understanding the message in the entire Quran. Had Allah spelled everything out for us, He knows the human would never open and study his Holy Scripture the Quran. Allah has said what He has in a way for whatever reason for us to use our brains and ponder and examine His scripture. There are commandments in there that He spells pretty clear, like killing for instance, He knows if He does not, people are going to not use their head and kill for whatever reason... Even if that is in there clear and to the point, people still find ways to justify it because they just did not get it. Prayer and worship, it is spelled out clearly, people still argue and dispute it. When Allah says this book is complete and has everything in it, He means just that.
Brother Joseph has been blessed to help many people realize the Truth on Islam. He does not come out and just says this is what the Quran says, HE HAS PROVEN IT EACH TIME AND SHOWED US HIS RESOURCES ON WHERE THE PROOF COMES FROM.
I have sent his articles on the Prophet Muhammad was not illiterate to many sites and Muslims who even are finally getting what the Quran says, but still believe that Muhammad was Illiterate. They reply back to me, how they were wrong and how they could not have seen this... and some still hold their stand on thinking Prophet Muhammad was an illiterate man because their Hadith tells them that or they think unlettered means illiterate when the first verse in the Quran is sura 96 and than sura 68, which God is ordering him to Read and write.
I have visited many of those site on their writings who hold this stands, and My God save us, they have changed it to exactly what Brother Joseph put after they seen the proof themselves.
Many countries do eat things that make’s a person scratch their head; it does not mean God has allowed it. They simply are lost and confused and sick in the head if you ask me especially when snakes, dogs, lion are being eaten.
Brother Joseph has been blessed by Allah who has given him the wisdom to understand and navigate in the Quran to find all what is being said to us and share it with us. Looking at Muslims now, they and when I say “They” I mean 95% have completely fell off the wagon on what Islam is and what the Quran says. Whether they use secondary sources or have no clue to what the Quran says as they take verses out of context and hide the truth on the real meaning from others to serve their own agenda or to serve their own ego that they can only tell us what Allah really is saying. Brother Joseph is not prohibiting stuff; he is showing us what Allah is prohibiting according to the Quran. Some may like it and some may not, it is how it is to Allah.
It still amazes me how people who are Muslims, born and grew up with it, have NO clue on what Islam is and what the Quran says and means, but those who either converted or had no religion (I have no idea if Brother Joseph is either, nor do I care nor do I want to know, but in speaking terms in General is what I mean) absolutely get what Islam is and the true meanings of the verses in the Quran. Not only that, they are the ones who are TRUELY are submitters and past the stage of being a Muslim but Mummineen, which means they have connected directly with Allah. Those are the ones who are not following blindly. I again do not care what Brother Joseph was, is.. What I do know is Dear God, Thank You for allowing a man with such wisdom to educate our illiterate and ignorance understanding about a religion we were raised in and followed blindly.
Here is how I broke it down, it is exactly how Brother Joseph said, but I consider insects and different birds to be on the list and anything that eats another creature is considered prohibited because insects are impure and God tells us not to eat anything impure.
THANK GOD I am a Vegan!
All terrestrial predatory animals and beasts, i.e. animals that hunt with their teeth, are considered Haram, such as a lion, cheetah, tiger, leopard, wolf, fox, dog, cat, etc. (This category goes in with Verse 5:3, These animals eat other animals, blood is part of it, although Allah is not prohibiting animals to eat other animals or blood, He is prohibiting us.. by eating these animals we are consuming what He is prohibiting in verse 5:3, including how almost each description He is saying in the verse, except Swine.) see how it wraps all on to WHY we are prohibited…. No one seems to get why He clearly focus on SWINE as haram/ prohibited. People assume it is because pigs are dirty; they eat their own feces and so on. NO, Chickens eat their own feces; other animals do that as well. Allah prohibited Adam and his wife to eat a fruit from a Pacific tree... when Allah does not prohibit fruits at all. It is because He wants to see if we follow his command. I believe it goes the same for pigs... God does not have to say that is the reason to ponder it sure might be. We will never know and only Allah knows why.
Animals mentioned in 16:6, although He is not clearly "prohibiting" He is CLEARLY telling you what HE created them for, there for technically HE is prohibiting with the absence of the word prohibiting. Another Example…
“It is Allah Who made cattle for you, that you may use some for riding and “some” for “min'hā “ and “wamin'hā “ food.” (Surah Al-Gafer, 40:79)
Pretty much anything that eats another creature is prohibited including insects, many birds that catch their prey in their claws and teeth. Insects and rodents for instance are considered impure, Allah tells us not to eat impure stuff. I mean how the heck can someone slaughter an insect when Allah clearly states to do it in a manor He tells one how to in the Quran?
Sorry if this is confusing…. As always I am in a rush.
Ps. I really recommend you watch some videos from Gary Miller and Jeffrey Lang. I just sent both of them article from Brother Joseph on stuff they misspoken about. I even send PM George Galloway some articles with the link to Brother Joseph’s site, and I got a reply with a Thank You very Much from him, how much it is different than what he is being told (everyone knows he converted to Islam, it is no secret, I am trying to save him before the brainwashing of the Hadith is crept in his head any further) lol
Salaam
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General Discussions / Re: Critique - DOES THE QURAN ALLOW ... DOGS, CATS, RATS ETC? by Arman Aziz
« on: January 30, 2014, 01:56:11 AM »
Salaam Armanaziz,
I am lost by that long message..
Are you saying people can eat dogs, cats, lions, horses, tigers, bears, rats? Or God does not make it unlawful?
I am just wondering, it is not an insult question...
I am lost by that long message..
Are you saying people can eat dogs, cats, lions, horses, tigers, bears, rats? Or God does not make it unlawful?
I am just wondering, it is not an insult question...
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General Discussions / Re: Verse 2:34
« on: January 28, 2014, 06:03:39 AM »
Salaam Alikium Brother Joseph,
Thanks for your explanation.
This subject actually out of curiosity more than anything. I only was very interested and curious to how Allah does things and there is a trillion questions, but we all know there is stuff that Only Allah knows and we will never know. More of an awww, subhannah Allah, for me to know more on the Higher Power of Allah Almighty.
Fascinating actually all the stuff that is found in the Quran.
I first heard about what I asked, and was more curious...
Here is the Video of Jeffrey Lang speaking about it starting @13:20; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRmGb_sIong
p.s. Just saw the Hebrew Huroof, in front of the verses, that is similar to the Qur'an. That also is very fascinating.
Thanks for taking the time tho to answer...
Salaam
Thanks for your explanation.
This subject actually out of curiosity more than anything. I only was very interested and curious to how Allah does things and there is a trillion questions, but we all know there is stuff that Only Allah knows and we will never know. More of an awww, subhannah Allah, for me to know more on the Higher Power of Allah Almighty.
Fascinating actually all the stuff that is found in the Quran.
I first heard about what I asked, and was more curious...
Here is the Video of Jeffrey Lang speaking about it starting @13:20; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRmGb_sIong
p.s. Just saw the Hebrew Huroof, in front of the verses, that is similar to the Qur'an. That also is very fascinating.
Thanks for taking the time tho to answer...
Salaam
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General Discussions / Re: The issue of using the word Allah by non muslims in Malaysia
« on: January 27, 2014, 01:27:15 PM »
Salaam Adam,
Danial is right, one must stand up to these radicals (my view of Muslims who behave this way) and not take stuff like this. Allah is a word for God in Arabic. Whether you believe in the Trinity of not, that is up to Allah/God to judge you.
Muslims/Arabs do not own that word, Rather Allah/God of the whole universe does and he created each human an equal.
Many Muslims who follow the Quran only and no Hadith get the same treatment and are ridiculed as being a non believer.
I guess it is time to do a You Tube video to educate people!!
I have a lot of friends who are Arab Christians and they speak English mainly, but Arabic as well and always refer to God as Allah. It is their God too, who cares!
I am sorry you are dealing with this from misguided people.. They certainly do not represent Islam or other True believing Muslims
Danial is right, one must stand up to these radicals (my view of Muslims who behave this way) and not take stuff like this. Allah is a word for God in Arabic. Whether you believe in the Trinity of not, that is up to Allah/God to judge you.
Muslims/Arabs do not own that word, Rather Allah/God of the whole universe does and he created each human an equal.
Many Muslims who follow the Quran only and no Hadith get the same treatment and are ridiculed as being a non believer.
I guess it is time to do a You Tube video to educate people!!
I have a lot of friends who are Arab Christians and they speak English mainly, but Arabic as well and always refer to God as Allah. It is their God too, who cares!
I am sorry you are dealing with this from misguided people.. They certainly do not represent Islam or other True believing Muslims
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General Discussions / Re: Help me explain to Christians the "difficult issues" concerning Muhammad
« on: January 27, 2014, 01:04:37 PM »
Salaam Danial
Here is some stuff I read the other day.. I have no idea how these people got this information about the Prophet but it is very true in my opnion by reading the Quran although not much is said about him. If anyone was to say this about Prophet Moses, Jesus, Noah... I would believe it as well. God chooses the best to represent and teach his revalations...
How is it that Prophet Muhammad was ranked no.1 in the top 100 influential people in history?
The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History is a 1978 book by Michael H. Hart, reprinted in 1992 with revisions. It is a ranking of the 100 people who, according to Hart, most influenced human history.[1]
The first person on Hart's list is the Prophet of Islam Muhammad.[2] Hart asserted that Muhammad was "supremely successful" in both the religious and secular realms. He also believed that Muhammad's role in the development of Islam was far more influential than Jesus' collaboration in the development of Christianity. He attributes the development of Christianity to St. Paul, who played a pivotal role in its dissemination.
What famous non-Muslims said about Islam and Prophet Muhammad PBUH
Napoleon Bonaparte
I hope the time is not far off when I shall be able to unite all the wise and educated men of all the countries and establish a uniform regime based on the principles of Quran which alone are true and which alone can lead men to happiness.
Sir George Bernard Shaw
I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity.
I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today.
H.G. Wells
The Islamic teachings have left great traditions for equitable and gentle dealings and behaviour, and inspire people with nobility and tolerance. These are human teachings of the highest order and at the same time practicable. These teachings brought into existence a society in which hard-heartedness and collective oppression and injustice were the least as compared with all other societies preceding it… Islam is replete with gentleness, courtesy, and fraternity.
Phillip Hitti
During all the first part of the Middle Ages, no other people made as important a contribution to human progress as did the Arabs, if we take this term to mean all those whose mother-tongue was Arabic, and not merely those living in the Arabian peninsula. For centuries, Arabic was the language of learning, culture and intellectual progress for the whole of the civilized world with the exception of the Far East. From the 9th to the 12th century there were more philosophical, medical, historical, religious, astronomical and geographical works written in Arabic than in any other human tongue.
R. Bosworth Smith
He was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without Pope’s pretensions, Caesar without the legions of Caesar: without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a palace, without a fixed revenue; if ever any man had the right to say that he ruled by the right divine, it was Mohammed, for he had all the power without its instruments and without its supports. He cared not for the dressings of power. The simplicity of his private life was in keeping with his public life.
Sarojini Naidu
It was the first religion that preached and practised democracy; for, in the mosque, when the call for prayer is sounded and worshippers are gathered together, the democracy of Islam is embodied five times a day when the peasant and king kneel side by side and proclaim: ‘God Alone is Great’
Dr. William Draper
Four years after the death of Justinian, A.D. 569, was born in Mecca, in Arabia, the man who, of all men, has exercised the greatest influence upon the human race… To be the religious head of many empires, to guide the daily life of one-third of the human race, may perhaps justify the title of a Messenger of God.
Thomas Carlyle
The lies (Western slander) which well-meaning zeal has heaped round this man (Muhammad) are disgraceful to ourselves only.
A silent great soul, one of that who cannot but be earnest. He was to kindle the world, the world’s Maker had ordered so.
A. S. Tritton
The picture of the Muslim soldier advancing with a sword in one hand and the Qur’an in the other is quite false.
De Lacy O’Leary
History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated.
Gibbon
The good sense of Muhammad despised the pomp of royalty. The Apostle of God submitted to the menial offices of the family; he kindled the fire; swept the floor; milked the ewes; and mended with his own hands his shoes and garments. Disdaining the penance and merit of a hermit, he observed without effort of vanity the abstemious diet of an Arab.
Edward Gibbon and Simon Oakley
The greatest success of Mohammad’s life was effected by sheer moral force.
Edward Montet
Islam is a religion that is essentially rationalistic in the widest sense of this term considered etymologically and historically… the teachings of the Prophet, the Qur’an has invariably kept its place as the fundamental starting point, and the dogma of unity of God has always been proclaimed therein with a grandeur a majesty, an invariable purity and with a note of sure conviction, which it is hard to find surpassed outside the pale of Islam… A creed so precise, so stripped of all theological complexities and consequently so accessible to the ordinary understanding might be expected to possess and does indeed possess a marvellous power of winning its way into the consciences of men.
Mahatma Gandhi
I wanted to know the best of the life of one who holds today an undisputed sway over the hearts of millions of mankind… I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet the scrupulous regard for pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every obstacle. When I closed the second volume (of the Prophet’s biography), I was sorry there was not more for me to read of that great life.
Alphonse de LaMartaine
If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astounding results are the three criteria of human genius, who could dare to compare any great man in modern history with Muhammad? The most famous men created arms, laws and empires only. They founded, if anything at all, no more than material powers which often crumbled away before their eyes. This man moved not only armies, legislations, empires, peoples and dynasties, but millions of men in one-third of the then inhabited world; and more than that, he moved the altars, the gods, the religions, the ideas, the beliefs and souls... the forbearance in victory, his ambition, which was entirely devoted to one idea and in no manner striving for an empire; his endless prayers, his mystic conversations with God, his death and his triumph after death; all these attest not to an imposture but to a firm conviction which gave him the power to restore a dogma. This dogma was twofold, the unit of God and the immateriality of God; the former telling what God is, the latter telling what God is not; the one overthrowing false gods with the sword, the other starting an idea with words.
"Philosopher, orator, apostle, legislator, warrior, conqueror of ideas, restorer of rational dogmas, of a cult without images; the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?.
Michael Hart
My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world’s most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the secular and religious level.
…It is probable that the relative influence of Muhammad on Islam has been larger than the combined influence of Jesus Christ and St. Paul on Christianity. .
..It is this unparalleled combination of secular and religious influence which I feel entitles Muhammad to be considered the most influential single figure in human history.
Rodwell
Mohammad’s career is a wonderful instance of the force and life that resides in him who possesses an intense faith in God and in the unseen world. He will always be regarded as one of those who have had that influence over the faith, morals and whole earthly life of their fellow men, which none but a really great man ever did, or can exercise; and whose efforts to propagate a great verity will prosper.
W. Montgomery Watt
His readiness to undergo persecution for his beliefs, the high moral character of the men who believed in him and looked up to him as a leader, and the greatness of his ultimate achievement - all argue his fundamental integrity. To suppose Muhammad an impostor raises more problems that it solves. Moreover, none of the great figures of history is so poorly appreciated in the West as Muhammad…
Thus, not merely must we credit Muhammad with essential honesty and integrity of purpose, if we are to understand him at all; if we are to correct the errors we have inherited from the past, we must not forget the conclusive proof is a much stricter requirement than a show of plausibility, and in a matter such as this only to be attained with difficulty.
D. G. Hogarth in ‘Arabia’
Serious or trivial, his daily behaviour has instituted a canon which millions observe this day with conscious memory. No one regarded by any section of the human race as Perfect Man has ever been imitated so minutely.The conduct of the founder of Christianity has not governed the ordinary life of his followers. Moreover, no founder of a religion has left on so solitary an eminence as the Muslim apostle.
Washington Irving
He was sober and abstemious in his diet and a rigorous observer of fasts. He indulged in no magnificence of apparel, the ostentation of a petty mind; neither was his simplicity in dress affected but a result of real disregard for distinction from so trivial a source.
In his private dealings he was just. He treated friends and strangers, the rich and poor, the powerful and weak, with equity, and was beloved by the common people for the affability with which he received them, and listened to their complaints.
His military triumphs awakened no pride nor vain glory, as they would have done had they been effected for selfish purposes. In the time of his greatest power he maintained the same simplicity of manners and appearance as in the days of his adversity. So far from affecting a regal state, he was displeased if, on entering a room, any unusual testimonials of respect were shown to him. If he aimed at a universal dominion, it was the dominion of faith; as to the temporal rule which grew up in his hands, as he used it without ostentation, so he took no step to perpetuate it in his family.
James Michener
No other religion in history spread so rapidly as Islam. The West has widely believed that this surge of religion was made possible by the sword. But no modern scholar accepts this idea, and the Qur’an is explicit in the support of the freedom of conscience.
Michael H. Hart, The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History
My choice of Muhammad to lead the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular levels. . .
. . . it may initially seem strange that Muhammad has been ranked higher than Jesus. There are two principal reasons for that decision. First, Muhammad played a far more important role to the development of Islam than Jesus did in the development of Christianity. Although Jesus was responsible for the main ethical and moral precepts of Christianity (insofar as these differed from Judaism), St. Paul was the main developer of Christian theology, its principal proselytizer, and the author of a large portion of the New Testament.
Muhammad, however, was responsible for both the theology of Islam and its main ethical and moral principles. In addition he played a key role in proselytizing the new faith, and in establishing the religious practices of Islam. Moreover, he is the author of the Moslem holy scriptures, the Koran. [The Quran, Muslims believe, is the revealed Word of God.]
Furthermore, Muhammad (unlike Jesus) was a secular leader as well as a religious leader. In fact as the driving force behind the Arab conquests, he may well rank as the most influential political leader of all time. . . [When Muhammad died in 632, he was the effective leader of all of southern Arabia. By 711, Arab armies had swept completely across North Africa to the Atlantic Ocean. In a scant century of fighting, the Bedouin tribesmen, inspired by the word of the Prophet, had carved out an empire stretching from the borders of India to the Atlantic Ocean -- the largest empire that the world had yet seen.]
. . the Arab conquests of the seventh century have continued to play an important role in human history, down to the present day. It is this unparalleled combination of secular and religious influence which I feel entitles Muhammad to be considered the most influential single figure in human history.
Alphonse de Lamartine, Histoire de la Turquie
Never has a man set for himself, voluntarily or involuntarily, a more sublime aim, since this aim was superhuman: to subvert superstitions which had been interposed between man and his creator, to render God unto man and man unto God; to restore the rational and sacred idea of divinity amidst the chaos of the material and disfigured gods of idolatry, then existing. Never has a man undertaken a work so far beyond human power with so feeble means, for he (Muhammad) had in the conception as well as in the execution of such a great design no other instrument than himself, and no other aid, except a handful of men living in a corner of the desert. Finally, never has a man accomplished such a huge and lasting revolution in the world, because in less than two centuries after its appearance, Islam, in faith and in arms, reigned over the whole of Arabia, and conquered, in God's name, Persia, Khorasan, Transoxania, Western India, Syria, Egypt, Abyssinia, all the known continent of Northern Africa, numerous islands of the Mediterranean, Spain, and a part of Gaul.
If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astounding results are the true criteria of human genius, who could dare to compare any great man in modern history with Muhammad? The most famous men created arms, laws and empires only. They founded, if anything at all, no more than material powers which often crumbled away before their eyes. This man moved not only armies, legislations, empires, peoples and dynasties, but millions of men in one-third of the inhabited world; and more than that, he moved the altars, the gods, the religions, the ideas, the beliefs and the souls.
On the basis of a Book, every letter of which has become law, he created a spiritual nationality which blended together peoples of every tongue and of every race. He has left us as the indelible characteristic of this Muslim nationality the hatred of false gods and the passion for the One and Immaterial God. This avenging patriotism against the profanation of Heaven formed the virtue of the followers of Muhammad; the conquest of one-third of the earth to his dogma was his miracle; or rather it was not the miracle of a man but that of reason.
The idea of the Unity of God, proclaimed amidst the exhaustion of fabulous theogonies, was in itself such a miracle that upon its utterance from his lips it destroyed all the ancient temples of idols and set on fire one-third of the world. His life, his meditations, his heroic revilings against the superstitions of his country, and his boldness in defying the furies of idolatry, his firmness in enduring them for fifteen years at Mecca, his acceptance of the role of public scorn and almost of being a victim of his fellow countrymen: all these and, finally, his flight, his incessant preaching, his wars against odds, his faith in his success and his superhuman security in misfortune, his forbearance in victory, his ambition, which was entirely devoted to one idea and in no manner striving for an empire; his endless prayers, his mystic conversations with God, his death and his triumph after death: all these attest not to an imposture but to affirm conviction which gave him the power to restore a dogma. This dogma was twofold, the unity of God and the immateriality of God: the former telling what God is, the latter telling what God is not; the one overthrowing false gods with the sword, the other starting an idea with the words.
Philosopher, orator, apostle, legislator, warrior, conqueror of ideas, restorer of rational dogmas, of a cult without images; the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he? -- Paris 1854, Vol. II, pp. 276- 277
Here is some stuff I read the other day.. I have no idea how these people got this information about the Prophet but it is very true in my opnion by reading the Quran although not much is said about him. If anyone was to say this about Prophet Moses, Jesus, Noah... I would believe it as well. God chooses the best to represent and teach his revalations...
How is it that Prophet Muhammad was ranked no.1 in the top 100 influential people in history?
The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History is a 1978 book by Michael H. Hart, reprinted in 1992 with revisions. It is a ranking of the 100 people who, according to Hart, most influenced human history.[1]
The first person on Hart's list is the Prophet of Islam Muhammad.[2] Hart asserted that Muhammad was "supremely successful" in both the religious and secular realms. He also believed that Muhammad's role in the development of Islam was far more influential than Jesus' collaboration in the development of Christianity. He attributes the development of Christianity to St. Paul, who played a pivotal role in its dissemination.
What famous non-Muslims said about Islam and Prophet Muhammad PBUH
Napoleon Bonaparte
I hope the time is not far off when I shall be able to unite all the wise and educated men of all the countries and establish a uniform regime based on the principles of Quran which alone are true and which alone can lead men to happiness.
Sir George Bernard Shaw
I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity.
I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today.
H.G. Wells
The Islamic teachings have left great traditions for equitable and gentle dealings and behaviour, and inspire people with nobility and tolerance. These are human teachings of the highest order and at the same time practicable. These teachings brought into existence a society in which hard-heartedness and collective oppression and injustice were the least as compared with all other societies preceding it… Islam is replete with gentleness, courtesy, and fraternity.
Phillip Hitti
During all the first part of the Middle Ages, no other people made as important a contribution to human progress as did the Arabs, if we take this term to mean all those whose mother-tongue was Arabic, and not merely those living in the Arabian peninsula. For centuries, Arabic was the language of learning, culture and intellectual progress for the whole of the civilized world with the exception of the Far East. From the 9th to the 12th century there were more philosophical, medical, historical, religious, astronomical and geographical works written in Arabic than in any other human tongue.
R. Bosworth Smith
He was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without Pope’s pretensions, Caesar without the legions of Caesar: without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a palace, without a fixed revenue; if ever any man had the right to say that he ruled by the right divine, it was Mohammed, for he had all the power without its instruments and without its supports. He cared not for the dressings of power. The simplicity of his private life was in keeping with his public life.
Sarojini Naidu
It was the first religion that preached and practised democracy; for, in the mosque, when the call for prayer is sounded and worshippers are gathered together, the democracy of Islam is embodied five times a day when the peasant and king kneel side by side and proclaim: ‘God Alone is Great’
Dr. William Draper
Four years after the death of Justinian, A.D. 569, was born in Mecca, in Arabia, the man who, of all men, has exercised the greatest influence upon the human race… To be the religious head of many empires, to guide the daily life of one-third of the human race, may perhaps justify the title of a Messenger of God.
Thomas Carlyle
The lies (Western slander) which well-meaning zeal has heaped round this man (Muhammad) are disgraceful to ourselves only.
A silent great soul, one of that who cannot but be earnest. He was to kindle the world, the world’s Maker had ordered so.
A. S. Tritton
The picture of the Muslim soldier advancing with a sword in one hand and the Qur’an in the other is quite false.
De Lacy O’Leary
History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated.
Gibbon
The good sense of Muhammad despised the pomp of royalty. The Apostle of God submitted to the menial offices of the family; he kindled the fire; swept the floor; milked the ewes; and mended with his own hands his shoes and garments. Disdaining the penance and merit of a hermit, he observed without effort of vanity the abstemious diet of an Arab.
Edward Gibbon and Simon Oakley
The greatest success of Mohammad’s life was effected by sheer moral force.
Edward Montet
Islam is a religion that is essentially rationalistic in the widest sense of this term considered etymologically and historically… the teachings of the Prophet, the Qur’an has invariably kept its place as the fundamental starting point, and the dogma of unity of God has always been proclaimed therein with a grandeur a majesty, an invariable purity and with a note of sure conviction, which it is hard to find surpassed outside the pale of Islam… A creed so precise, so stripped of all theological complexities and consequently so accessible to the ordinary understanding might be expected to possess and does indeed possess a marvellous power of winning its way into the consciences of men.
Mahatma Gandhi
I wanted to know the best of the life of one who holds today an undisputed sway over the hearts of millions of mankind… I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet the scrupulous regard for pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every obstacle. When I closed the second volume (of the Prophet’s biography), I was sorry there was not more for me to read of that great life.
Alphonse de LaMartaine
If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astounding results are the three criteria of human genius, who could dare to compare any great man in modern history with Muhammad? The most famous men created arms, laws and empires only. They founded, if anything at all, no more than material powers which often crumbled away before their eyes. This man moved not only armies, legislations, empires, peoples and dynasties, but millions of men in one-third of the then inhabited world; and more than that, he moved the altars, the gods, the religions, the ideas, the beliefs and souls... the forbearance in victory, his ambition, which was entirely devoted to one idea and in no manner striving for an empire; his endless prayers, his mystic conversations with God, his death and his triumph after death; all these attest not to an imposture but to a firm conviction which gave him the power to restore a dogma. This dogma was twofold, the unit of God and the immateriality of God; the former telling what God is, the latter telling what God is not; the one overthrowing false gods with the sword, the other starting an idea with words.
"Philosopher, orator, apostle, legislator, warrior, conqueror of ideas, restorer of rational dogmas, of a cult without images; the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?.
Michael Hart
My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world’s most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the secular and religious level.
…It is probable that the relative influence of Muhammad on Islam has been larger than the combined influence of Jesus Christ and St. Paul on Christianity. .
..It is this unparalleled combination of secular and religious influence which I feel entitles Muhammad to be considered the most influential single figure in human history.
Rodwell
Mohammad’s career is a wonderful instance of the force and life that resides in him who possesses an intense faith in God and in the unseen world. He will always be regarded as one of those who have had that influence over the faith, morals and whole earthly life of their fellow men, which none but a really great man ever did, or can exercise; and whose efforts to propagate a great verity will prosper.
W. Montgomery Watt
His readiness to undergo persecution for his beliefs, the high moral character of the men who believed in him and looked up to him as a leader, and the greatness of his ultimate achievement - all argue his fundamental integrity. To suppose Muhammad an impostor raises more problems that it solves. Moreover, none of the great figures of history is so poorly appreciated in the West as Muhammad…
Thus, not merely must we credit Muhammad with essential honesty and integrity of purpose, if we are to understand him at all; if we are to correct the errors we have inherited from the past, we must not forget the conclusive proof is a much stricter requirement than a show of plausibility, and in a matter such as this only to be attained with difficulty.
D. G. Hogarth in ‘Arabia’
Serious or trivial, his daily behaviour has instituted a canon which millions observe this day with conscious memory. No one regarded by any section of the human race as Perfect Man has ever been imitated so minutely.The conduct of the founder of Christianity has not governed the ordinary life of his followers. Moreover, no founder of a religion has left on so solitary an eminence as the Muslim apostle.
Washington Irving
He was sober and abstemious in his diet and a rigorous observer of fasts. He indulged in no magnificence of apparel, the ostentation of a petty mind; neither was his simplicity in dress affected but a result of real disregard for distinction from so trivial a source.
In his private dealings he was just. He treated friends and strangers, the rich and poor, the powerful and weak, with equity, and was beloved by the common people for the affability with which he received them, and listened to their complaints.
His military triumphs awakened no pride nor vain glory, as they would have done had they been effected for selfish purposes. In the time of his greatest power he maintained the same simplicity of manners and appearance as in the days of his adversity. So far from affecting a regal state, he was displeased if, on entering a room, any unusual testimonials of respect were shown to him. If he aimed at a universal dominion, it was the dominion of faith; as to the temporal rule which grew up in his hands, as he used it without ostentation, so he took no step to perpetuate it in his family.
James Michener
No other religion in history spread so rapidly as Islam. The West has widely believed that this surge of religion was made possible by the sword. But no modern scholar accepts this idea, and the Qur’an is explicit in the support of the freedom of conscience.
Michael H. Hart, The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History
My choice of Muhammad to lead the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular levels. . .
. . . it may initially seem strange that Muhammad has been ranked higher than Jesus. There are two principal reasons for that decision. First, Muhammad played a far more important role to the development of Islam than Jesus did in the development of Christianity. Although Jesus was responsible for the main ethical and moral precepts of Christianity (insofar as these differed from Judaism), St. Paul was the main developer of Christian theology, its principal proselytizer, and the author of a large portion of the New Testament.
Muhammad, however, was responsible for both the theology of Islam and its main ethical and moral principles. In addition he played a key role in proselytizing the new faith, and in establishing the religious practices of Islam. Moreover, he is the author of the Moslem holy scriptures, the Koran. [The Quran, Muslims believe, is the revealed Word of God.]
Furthermore, Muhammad (unlike Jesus) was a secular leader as well as a religious leader. In fact as the driving force behind the Arab conquests, he may well rank as the most influential political leader of all time. . . [When Muhammad died in 632, he was the effective leader of all of southern Arabia. By 711, Arab armies had swept completely across North Africa to the Atlantic Ocean. In a scant century of fighting, the Bedouin tribesmen, inspired by the word of the Prophet, had carved out an empire stretching from the borders of India to the Atlantic Ocean -- the largest empire that the world had yet seen.]
. . the Arab conquests of the seventh century have continued to play an important role in human history, down to the present day. It is this unparalleled combination of secular and religious influence which I feel entitles Muhammad to be considered the most influential single figure in human history.
Alphonse de Lamartine, Histoire de la Turquie
Never has a man set for himself, voluntarily or involuntarily, a more sublime aim, since this aim was superhuman: to subvert superstitions which had been interposed between man and his creator, to render God unto man and man unto God; to restore the rational and sacred idea of divinity amidst the chaos of the material and disfigured gods of idolatry, then existing. Never has a man undertaken a work so far beyond human power with so feeble means, for he (Muhammad) had in the conception as well as in the execution of such a great design no other instrument than himself, and no other aid, except a handful of men living in a corner of the desert. Finally, never has a man accomplished such a huge and lasting revolution in the world, because in less than two centuries after its appearance, Islam, in faith and in arms, reigned over the whole of Arabia, and conquered, in God's name, Persia, Khorasan, Transoxania, Western India, Syria, Egypt, Abyssinia, all the known continent of Northern Africa, numerous islands of the Mediterranean, Spain, and a part of Gaul.
If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astounding results are the true criteria of human genius, who could dare to compare any great man in modern history with Muhammad? The most famous men created arms, laws and empires only. They founded, if anything at all, no more than material powers which often crumbled away before their eyes. This man moved not only armies, legislations, empires, peoples and dynasties, but millions of men in one-third of the inhabited world; and more than that, he moved the altars, the gods, the religions, the ideas, the beliefs and the souls.
On the basis of a Book, every letter of which has become law, he created a spiritual nationality which blended together peoples of every tongue and of every race. He has left us as the indelible characteristic of this Muslim nationality the hatred of false gods and the passion for the One and Immaterial God. This avenging patriotism against the profanation of Heaven formed the virtue of the followers of Muhammad; the conquest of one-third of the earth to his dogma was his miracle; or rather it was not the miracle of a man but that of reason.
The idea of the Unity of God, proclaimed amidst the exhaustion of fabulous theogonies, was in itself such a miracle that upon its utterance from his lips it destroyed all the ancient temples of idols and set on fire one-third of the world. His life, his meditations, his heroic revilings against the superstitions of his country, and his boldness in defying the furies of idolatry, his firmness in enduring them for fifteen years at Mecca, his acceptance of the role of public scorn and almost of being a victim of his fellow countrymen: all these and, finally, his flight, his incessant preaching, his wars against odds, his faith in his success and his superhuman security in misfortune, his forbearance in victory, his ambition, which was entirely devoted to one idea and in no manner striving for an empire; his endless prayers, his mystic conversations with God, his death and his triumph after death: all these attest not to an imposture but to affirm conviction which gave him the power to restore a dogma. This dogma was twofold, the unity of God and the immateriality of God: the former telling what God is, the latter telling what God is not; the one overthrowing false gods with the sword, the other starting an idea with the words.
Philosopher, orator, apostle, legislator, warrior, conqueror of ideas, restorer of rational dogmas, of a cult without images; the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he? -- Paris 1854, Vol. II, pp. 276- 277
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General Discussions / Re: Help me explain to Christians the "difficult issues" concerning Muhammad
« on: January 27, 2014, 12:38:37 PM »
*many christians convert to Islam, I meant to say.
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General Discussions / Re: Help me explain to Christians the "difficult issues" concerning Muhammad
« on: January 27, 2014, 12:35:25 PM »
Salaam Daniel,
Here is an article about that subjects.
- Sexual morality: In particular the apparent marriage to Aisha at an age unacceptably young (8 yrs old?) age. Other issues with excessive number of wives.
http://quransmessage.com/articles/ayesha%20age%20FM3.htm
Anyone who fully reads, studies and understands the Quran will know right away, whether Muslim or non Muslim, That Prophet Muhammad followed Gods revaluation, Allah did say about him that he is a man with high morals.
What still shocks me is Muslims believing what is in the Hadith about their prophet. I myself at a very young age, never believed such stories because it did not make sense someone in contact with God and given his revaluations would be anything but with high morals and character marrying a child.
God knows who He was going to choose to be His prophets and messengers way before they were born, i.e, Prophets were mentioned in the Torah such as Jesus, by Moses and he was not even born. God certainly is not going to have a prophet who is going to reveal his final revaluations who Allah sees in the future time going to be married to a child or blood killing mad man.
As for multiple wives, I have not seen anything in the Quran that indicates he had multiple wives, Hadith is all fabrication so I never quote that and only an insane person, whether Muslim or not would use that as a religion source or any believes to it.
http://quransmessage.com/articles/prophet's%20wives%20FM3.htm
The verse 4:34 in the Quran Al Nisa talks about polygamy, but that verse by many is so misunderstood and people think that Polygamy is accepted by God. Only in circumstances.
http://quransmessage.com/articles/four%20wives%20FM3.htm
http://quransmessage.com/forum/forum.htm
I see it this way, If there is no mention in the Quran, there is no way anyone is going to know. People can assume and say many things, Muslim or nonmuslim, it does not mean it is true unless they fully read and understand the Quran, being that it is in the Quran.
- Cases of raids and murder.. Etc.
quransmessage.com/pdfs/Overlap%20Hadith%20and%20History.pdf
There are many many more if you do a search.
I do not see anything wrong with you asking. I see the nastiest stuff about Prophet Muhammad prophet Jesus the most that is so vile on You Tube, but it does not bother me, because I know the truth, I educate people, than everyone starts attacking each other.
I do see a lot about Prophet Muhammad on Christian websites. Once I start reading it, I get what the theme is, and it is not about is it true or not, it is attacking Islam as a whole. Those are usually fundamental Christians or extremely threatened people of Islam because it is fastly increasing and many Christian's convert to Christianity.
I actually hear so much about Judaism more than Islam or about the same. I just say people need to educate themselves about their own religion before they start criticizing others in a negative matter.
Hope this helps....
Here is an article about that subjects.
- Sexual morality: In particular the apparent marriage to Aisha at an age unacceptably young (8 yrs old?) age. Other issues with excessive number of wives.
http://quransmessage.com/articles/ayesha%20age%20FM3.htm
Anyone who fully reads, studies and understands the Quran will know right away, whether Muslim or non Muslim, That Prophet Muhammad followed Gods revaluation, Allah did say about him that he is a man with high morals.
What still shocks me is Muslims believing what is in the Hadith about their prophet. I myself at a very young age, never believed such stories because it did not make sense someone in contact with God and given his revaluations would be anything but with high morals and character marrying a child.
God knows who He was going to choose to be His prophets and messengers way before they were born, i.e, Prophets were mentioned in the Torah such as Jesus, by Moses and he was not even born. God certainly is not going to have a prophet who is going to reveal his final revaluations who Allah sees in the future time going to be married to a child or blood killing mad man.
As for multiple wives, I have not seen anything in the Quran that indicates he had multiple wives, Hadith is all fabrication so I never quote that and only an insane person, whether Muslim or not would use that as a religion source or any believes to it.
http://quransmessage.com/articles/prophet's%20wives%20FM3.htm
The verse 4:34 in the Quran Al Nisa talks about polygamy, but that verse by many is so misunderstood and people think that Polygamy is accepted by God. Only in circumstances.
http://quransmessage.com/articles/four%20wives%20FM3.htm
http://quransmessage.com/forum/forum.htm
I see it this way, If there is no mention in the Quran, there is no way anyone is going to know. People can assume and say many things, Muslim or nonmuslim, it does not mean it is true unless they fully read and understand the Quran, being that it is in the Quran.
- Cases of raids and murder.. Etc.
quransmessage.com/pdfs/Overlap%20Hadith%20and%20History.pdf
There are many many more if you do a search.
I do not see anything wrong with you asking. I see the nastiest stuff about Prophet Muhammad prophet Jesus the most that is so vile on You Tube, but it does not bother me, because I know the truth, I educate people, than everyone starts attacking each other.
I do see a lot about Prophet Muhammad on Christian websites. Once I start reading it, I get what the theme is, and it is not about is it true or not, it is attacking Islam as a whole. Those are usually fundamental Christians or extremely threatened people of Islam because it is fastly increasing and many Christian's convert to Christianity.
I actually hear so much about Judaism more than Islam or about the same. I just say people need to educate themselves about their own religion before they start criticizing others in a negative matter.
Hope this helps....
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Discussions / Re: Apostle Paul
« on: January 27, 2014, 10:57:20 AM »
Salaam Brother Joseph,
I have a question about OT and NT. I read most of what you wrote about corruption from Qurans saying.
What is your opinion on when Allah revealed the Quran to Prophet Muhammad, and said what He did about the Books before the Quran? is it possible that there were many corruptions hundreds of years later after the Prophet Muhammad died? I know about the Christiane Doctrine, about the Torah that the verse says they wrote by their own hands and said this is from all, which was a lie.
I once heard someone saying, The Torah, Psalms and Gospels were never corrupted nor can be corrupted or changed because it is Gods word and the Quran confirms He will protect the corruption of any of his books. (I know for a fact that this is only about the Quran, not sure Ive ever seen anything in the Quran that says anything about other books)
I do not know if I am seeing the words right when I am reading stuff out of today's Torah, but it just does not seem with how Allah's theme in the Quran is. My friend who I went to college with was raised and brought up in a Religious Jewish upbringing. When I was talking to her today, she told me she decided to become an Atheist because she does not believe there is a God who would command things that were in the Torah. I told her she needs to read it in Hebrew to understand it as it was given to them in Hebrew. She said she has. I looked at several verses when she sent me a link to a good site many Jewish people use. http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/9882
Unless I am losing my mind, or seeing things... Did you ever come across this in the Torah? Many of my Christian friends said the same thing, and they are only following the Gospals and refuse to follow the OT.
I know it was from Allah but not because it does not go with the same theme as the Quran, but it seems like the author of many verses in the Torah and Quran are two different Authors. (May Allah forgive me, as this sounds horrible for me to say this, I do not know which other way to say it although I know they both are from Allah, but Torah takes a very different way of laws than the Quran, from what I have read. Is it possible it changed or tampered with?
Here are several examples
Exodus 4:25 So Zipporah took a sharp stone and severed her son's foreskin and cast it to his feet, and she said, "For you are a bridegroom of blood to me." I thout circumcision since it is not mentioned in any book, and God says in the Quran He created us perfectly..
Exodus 21:17. And one who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death.
21:20 And should a man strike his manservant or his maidservant with a rod, and [that one] die under his hand, he shall surely be avenged.
21:21 But if he survives for a day or for two days, he shall not be avenged, because he is his property.
Leviticus 20:14 And a man who takes a woman and her mother it is evil counsel. They shall burn him and them in fire, and there shall be no evil counsel in your midst.
I asked another friend who was Jewish and he said that it is like no other book and blows the charts. He said there were so many horrifying things in there that he started to rethink what religion he should be following.
I mean no disrespect to anyone who is Jewish and follows the Torah. I am just interested to learn about others religions.
Also, she said the God gave them oral Torah which is why they have the Talmud. I know that is not true because God says what they got in the Quran and the Talmud is like the Hadith.
Salaam
I have a question about OT and NT. I read most of what you wrote about corruption from Qurans saying.
What is your opinion on when Allah revealed the Quran to Prophet Muhammad, and said what He did about the Books before the Quran? is it possible that there were many corruptions hundreds of years later after the Prophet Muhammad died? I know about the Christiane Doctrine, about the Torah that the verse says they wrote by their own hands and said this is from all, which was a lie.
I once heard someone saying, The Torah, Psalms and Gospels were never corrupted nor can be corrupted or changed because it is Gods word and the Quran confirms He will protect the corruption of any of his books. (I know for a fact that this is only about the Quran, not sure Ive ever seen anything in the Quran that says anything about other books)
I do not know if I am seeing the words right when I am reading stuff out of today's Torah, but it just does not seem with how Allah's theme in the Quran is. My friend who I went to college with was raised and brought up in a Religious Jewish upbringing. When I was talking to her today, she told me she decided to become an Atheist because she does not believe there is a God who would command things that were in the Torah. I told her she needs to read it in Hebrew to understand it as it was given to them in Hebrew. She said she has. I looked at several verses when she sent me a link to a good site many Jewish people use. http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/9882
Unless I am losing my mind, or seeing things... Did you ever come across this in the Torah? Many of my Christian friends said the same thing, and they are only following the Gospals and refuse to follow the OT.
I know it was from Allah but not because it does not go with the same theme as the Quran, but it seems like the author of many verses in the Torah and Quran are two different Authors. (May Allah forgive me, as this sounds horrible for me to say this, I do not know which other way to say it although I know they both are from Allah, but Torah takes a very different way of laws than the Quran, from what I have read. Is it possible it changed or tampered with?
Here are several examples
Exodus 4:25 So Zipporah took a sharp stone and severed her son's foreskin and cast it to his feet, and she said, "For you are a bridegroom of blood to me." I thout circumcision since it is not mentioned in any book, and God says in the Quran He created us perfectly..
Exodus 21:17. And one who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death.
21:20 And should a man strike his manservant or his maidservant with a rod, and [that one] die under his hand, he shall surely be avenged.
21:21 But if he survives for a day or for two days, he shall not be avenged, because he is his property.
Leviticus 20:14 And a man who takes a woman and her mother it is evil counsel. They shall burn him and them in fire, and there shall be no evil counsel in your midst.
I asked another friend who was Jewish and he said that it is like no other book and blows the charts. He said there were so many horrifying things in there that he started to rethink what religion he should be following.
I mean no disrespect to anyone who is Jewish and follows the Torah. I am just interested to learn about others religions.
Also, she said the God gave them oral Torah which is why they have the Talmud. I know that is not true because God says what they got in the Quran and the Talmud is like the Hadith.
Salaam
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General Discussions / Re: In the divine system every individual keeps only what he needs!!
« on: January 27, 2014, 03:47:36 AM »
Salaam Optimist,
Can you clarify more about this, that it is the duty of the State to enforce of Islamic laws of the Sharia. Are you talking from the Quran perspective on what Allah asks us to do or on what Islamic States should do?
Can you clarify more about this, that it is the duty of the State to enforce of Islamic laws of the Sharia. Are you talking from the Quran perspective on what Allah asks us to do or on what Islamic States should do?
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Discussions / Re: Black cat
« on: January 27, 2014, 03:20:45 AM »
Salaam,
I agree with you, ppl have weird thoughts. I always heard of this from non Muslims about the black cats, but even when I was little, I never believed in the superstition nor thought for a split second that I was going to have bad luck because I ran into a black cat. I find them to be the most beautiful cats.
I was told my Dog, who is 90% covered with black hair, and any dogs who had black fur all over, has the devil in him and the devil lives in dogs who have black hair especially on their faces by Muslims. I never once given it any thought besides they are confused and tell fairytales.
Too bad ppl are confused and follow and believe fairytales and not be able to enjoy what God created and has on earth for us to be part of their lives.
I agree with you, ppl have weird thoughts. I always heard of this from non Muslims about the black cats, but even when I was little, I never believed in the superstition nor thought for a split second that I was going to have bad luck because I ran into a black cat. I find them to be the most beautiful cats.
I was told my Dog, who is 90% covered with black hair, and any dogs who had black fur all over, has the devil in him and the devil lives in dogs who have black hair especially on their faces by Muslims. I never once given it any thought besides they are confused and tell fairytales.
Too bad ppl are confused and follow and believe fairytales and not be able to enjoy what God created and has on earth for us to be part of their lives.
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Prophets and Messengers / Re: The Meaning of Messiah
« on: January 27, 2014, 01:48:27 AM »
Salaam Armanazia and Danial,
I do not have time to put everything in here about both verses are about Prophet Muhummed, and God willing it will explain it, but I am without undcertainty that both verses are about Prophet Muhummed.
After listening to verses 7:157-158, to me it is clear God is talking to/about prophet Muhammad.
7:157 Muhammad is prophesied in the Torah and Injil. Maybe not by name but in reference to him. (as we do not have the original scripts of those books)
How I understand it is, God is telling Prophet Muhammad to tell the people who are following the Torah and Injil who have those books that God has written in their books mentioning him (may not be by name, but about a prophet that will be coming) and in 7:158, God is saying to Muhammad, say oh mankind, indeed I am the Messenger of God.
There is a lot in the Torah and Injil, that mentions many stuff about a prophet that is not going to be speaking in their mother tongue... The Torah followers refused to accept Jesus and the Injil, and the Injil followers refused to accept Muhammad. God is saying to tell them both that He mentioned his prophecy in both books.
Salaam
I do not have time to put everything in here about both verses are about Prophet Muhummed, and God willing it will explain it, but I am without undcertainty that both verses are about Prophet Muhummed.
After listening to verses 7:157-158, to me it is clear God is talking to/about prophet Muhammad.
7:157 Muhammad is prophesied in the Torah and Injil. Maybe not by name but in reference to him. (as we do not have the original scripts of those books)
How I understand it is, God is telling Prophet Muhammad to tell the people who are following the Torah and Injil who have those books that God has written in their books mentioning him (may not be by name, but about a prophet that will be coming) and in 7:158, God is saying to Muhammad, say oh mankind, indeed I am the Messenger of God.
There is a lot in the Torah and Injil, that mentions many stuff about a prophet that is not going to be speaking in their mother tongue... The Torah followers refused to accept Jesus and the Injil, and the Injil followers refused to accept Muhammad. God is saying to tell them both that He mentioned his prophecy in both books.
Salaam
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General Discussions / Verse 2:34
« on: January 26, 2014, 12:41:11 AM »
Salaam Brother Joseph,
I am wondering if you have anything on verse 2:34 when Allah tells the angels and Iblis to Prostrate before Adam.
It starts at 2:30-2:39.
As Allah is the knower and Wise of the unseen on heaven and earth, was it the reason He had the angels prostate before Adam, because Angels duty would to serve men, they are the angelic beings, who Allah created to serve the development of man kind, and Iblis which did not listen to Allah, who was going to be the enemy of human kind? Serving humans to do evil things. That is why humans nafs are to use their moral choices? Good is the angelic beings and bad is the satins influences?
Sorry if this is confusing
Salaam
I am wondering if you have anything on verse 2:34 when Allah tells the angels and Iblis to Prostrate before Adam.
It starts at 2:30-2:39.
As Allah is the knower and Wise of the unseen on heaven and earth, was it the reason He had the angels prostate before Adam, because Angels duty would to serve men, they are the angelic beings, who Allah created to serve the development of man kind, and Iblis which did not listen to Allah, who was going to be the enemy of human kind? Serving humans to do evil things. That is why humans nafs are to use their moral choices? Good is the angelic beings and bad is the satins influences?
Sorry if this is confusing
Salaam
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Women / Re: Doctors
« on: January 25, 2014, 07:44:27 AM »
Salaam Karen,
I always had male doctors and never had a problem or was worried about it being right or wrong. I never switched because of my religion and beliefs as I was brought up a Muslim. As Arman posted, I truly believe that is why God has put that "attendance men with no desires" in verse 24:31.
I personally would not disgown if more than one person was in the room, whether it be female or male.
There are going to be times when the only option one has is the opposite sex because no one else is available, or the same gender doc one is wanting to treat them, is not available.
Hope this helps...
I always had male doctors and never had a problem or was worried about it being right or wrong. I never switched because of my religion and beliefs as I was brought up a Muslim. As Arman posted, I truly believe that is why God has put that "attendance men with no desires" in verse 24:31.
I personally would not disgown if more than one person was in the room, whether it be female or male.
There are going to be times when the only option one has is the opposite sex because no one else is available, or the same gender doc one is wanting to treat them, is not available.
Hope this helps...