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Everything is worship if done correctly, even everyday matters. The verse refers to turning your entire life into a means of worship.

I agree 100%

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Shalom / peace miracle114 ..... What's your view on the fact that Allah has He didn't prescribe monasticism on those that ended up practising it (Christians) ..... I don't think such a cutting of from worldly things is expected ...Hence where's the test if you sit on a mountain and just meditate ... isn't it in the daily tests that one is tested ?????

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1) we are to do nothing else but worship and devote our whole life to him. (I. E not marrying, no children no career, no past times).

Then why would Allah dedicate passages upon passages on marriage ...divorce ....children....seeking his bounty....financial transactions ........inheritance etc etc etc????

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Discussions / Re: What are Satanic verses ?
« on: May 22, 2017, 09:15:34 PM »

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Discussions / Re: A CALL TO UNITE ALL BELIEVERS.
« on: May 08, 2017, 07:18:40 PM »
What is wrong with all the seekers of GOD Alone ,in any sect or religion,to put their differences aside and unite in serving/worshipping GOD Alone

How can they worship GOD and unite when one group believes that salah does not mean ritual worship......another believes there are 3 ritual prayers......another 2 ......and others 5.......?

How can they unite in worshiping GOD when one group believes that saum does not mean fasting????

You think you are fulfilling your duty by calling them to unite when you yourself believe that 2 verses of the Book are fake?

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Discussions / Re: A CALL TO UNITE ALL BELIEVERS.
« on: May 08, 2017, 10:08:46 AM »
Good logic - let me put the question again to you simply .....

As you believe that 2 verses of the Book are fake, how do we unite?

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Discussions / Re: A CALL TO UNITE ALL BELIEVERS.
« on: May 07, 2017, 11:57:27 PM »
Sorry but that doesn't address the question which is very important in my opinion in lots of ways.

Submitters like you believe 2 verses of the Book we have are fake. How do we unite on that?....

You started the post, so pls explain.....

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Discussions / Re: A CALL TO UNITE ALL BELIEVERS.
« on: May 07, 2017, 08:10:52 PM »
Good logic - Submitters like you believe that 2 verses of the Qur'an were fake - 9:128-9:129. Please tell me how we unite on this point?

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I'm afraid I fail to see what's so confusing.

Totally agree ...

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General Discussions / Re: About Greeting
« on: May 04, 2017, 08:12:17 PM »
Not sure.....what is the meaning they claim it changes it to? 'They' - whoever they are ....can't just make a claim and not back it up with what it is supposed to mean..... thanks

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General Discussions / Re: About Greeting
« on: May 04, 2017, 07:29:22 PM »
Shalom / peace br. Munir ......i agree with your opinion.....the intended meaning is more important......

Also the following article from br. Joseph may help.....
http://quransmessage.com/articles/salamun%20alaikum

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Good logic - you have just repeated your nonsense...This is really bad logic in my opinion and I disagree with your conclusions.... Enough said .....other members can make their own minds up.

As others have said too...brother Joseph's argument was best put and I also agree with him when he said the following....


I feel it is always important to remember that wisdom entails broader understanding beyond the literal verse (which is also granted by God) and comes by the way of application after one has understood a body of knowledge / experience. This does not mean that one is sanctioning the Ahadith corpus with religious authority. I respectfully feel that those that claim otherwise (that wisdom is the same as the Quranic verses) have no warrant either in linguistics or Quranic context.

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Yes its derived from the verses .. BUT THE DERIVATION IS NOT EXPLICITLY STATED in the Qur'an .. What is wrong with you Good logic ? ... Are you being intentionally awkward to prove a point that you don't have? As is usual ... your post seem nonsense to me.

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Peace Duster.
What do you mean by outside? Do you mean nothing to do with Qoran?
Without the verses,you cannot have Hikmah.
Hikmah , light,guidance are all part of the package called Qoran.
They are derived from its verses.
So far we both keep repeating ourselves. If you cannot accept the answers I gave you then either you or me are not clear about what is meant by outside!!! Outside to me means independent.
You see where you are not making sense to me when you say if Hikmah is not verses it is outside?

For me outside means outside Qoran,independent of Qoran,hence independent of its verses.
My answer to you ,hoping it will be clear for you this time is:
Since the Hikmah is dependent on the verses( derived from the verses) Hikmah is inside Qoran because the verses are Qoran.


GOD bless you.
Peace.

Please don't try to be naive ....

Outside means anything which is not EXPLICITLY stated in the Qur'an.... So if Allah gives 'hikmah' which is not explicitly stated in the verses of the Qur'an but derived from it ... then it cannot be inside the Qur'an ...

Now either accept the argument or stop going around in circles wasting time ... please !

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Good logic ...once again you evade the main point - go around in circles ...and provide nonsense in my opinion......

Where is the explanation ....the wisdom - the hikmah ....? Inside or outside the Qur'an...- if it is inside the Qur'an then these will be the verses not hikmah.....Even if Allah is providing the extra wisdom based on the verses ... they cannot be inside the Qur'an in the form of verses.....

What is the matter with you that you cannot understand a simple point?

I'm waiting for you to answer this...or admit that you have no answer.

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