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General Discussions / Re: Response to A. Ismail Sait : Islamic State
« on: December 14, 2013, 12:41:24 AM »
Salaam.
You said:
We have only one responsibility, which is to surrender ourselves completely to the divine instructions and laws contained in the Quran and to establish a society which can implement all its Laws.
After stating that we have only one responsibility, you have enumerated two responsibilities.
You said:
God will NOT grant power to rule on the land unless we sincerely make efforts to achieve this objective. The power to rule the land is not granted to anyone from the sky on a fine morning.
We are not asked to strive in order to achieve the power to rule.
You wrote:
As for me, I am only a fan of Allah and His system only. However I love all scholars who try to reform the society for the establishment of the divine system contained in the Quran in totality.
According to dictionary. reference .com, the meaning of fan is:
fan
2 [fan]
noun
an enthusiastic devotee, follower, or admirer of a sport, pastime, celebrity, etc.: a baseball fan; a great fan of Charlie Chaplin.
World English dictionary:
fan 2 (fæn)
— n
1. an ardent admirer of a pop star, film actor, football team, etc
2. a devotee of a sport, hobby, etc
You wrote:
Here your comments are much more focused. Thanks for this. Can I deduct from your above comment that we are responsible and should be ready to sacrifice even our lives for the establish all divine laws contained in the Quran as much as humanly possible for us to do so?
What do you mean by the word "establish" in the context of your above statement?
You wrote:
It is strange to note that, according to you, there is no injunction in the Quran to form a government and the Islamic State will be declared only when God grants us the power for it. You seem to assume that Allah will bestow us with government authority without any human effort. Even assuming, not admitting, there is no injunction in the Quran anywhere to form a government, so long as the Quran contains Laws that can be made applicable only under a system of government with authority to rule, it is not EVEN required any injunction in the Quran anywhere to form a government. When you put a glass of milk before your child, you do not need to verbally instruct your child to drink. The instruction is there by default. However, Quran gives instructions at various places through different ways to follow and establish all the divine laws contained in the Quran. And we are responsible to see that all Quranic laws are implemented and of course Allah will hold us responsible for any dereliction of duty in this regard, borrowing your own comments, only after thorough consideration of all aspects of our appallingly limited capabilities.
Just because there are divine commandments regarding married life, do I need to marry, compulsorily?
You wrote:
Finally, even the terms like Nahy 'anil munkar - forbidding evil -, which you repeatedly mentioned in your posts is not something related to our private affairs only. Ultimately, it would require a governmental authority to fight against and eradicate all evils.
Enforcement is not necessarily part of Amr bil Ma'roof, and Nahy 'Anil Munkar.
Regards,
Al Ismail Sait.
You said:
We have only one responsibility, which is to surrender ourselves completely to the divine instructions and laws contained in the Quran and to establish a society which can implement all its Laws.
After stating that we have only one responsibility, you have enumerated two responsibilities.
You said:
God will NOT grant power to rule on the land unless we sincerely make efforts to achieve this objective. The power to rule the land is not granted to anyone from the sky on a fine morning.
We are not asked to strive in order to achieve the power to rule.
You wrote:
As for me, I am only a fan of Allah and His system only. However I love all scholars who try to reform the society for the establishment of the divine system contained in the Quran in totality.
According to dictionary. reference .com, the meaning of fan is:
fan
2 [fan]
noun
an enthusiastic devotee, follower, or admirer of a sport, pastime, celebrity, etc.: a baseball fan; a great fan of Charlie Chaplin.
World English dictionary:
fan 2 (fæn)
— n
1. an ardent admirer of a pop star, film actor, football team, etc
2. a devotee of a sport, hobby, etc
You wrote:
Here your comments are much more focused. Thanks for this. Can I deduct from your above comment that we are responsible and should be ready to sacrifice even our lives for the establish all divine laws contained in the Quran as much as humanly possible for us to do so?
What do you mean by the word "establish" in the context of your above statement?
You wrote:
It is strange to note that, according to you, there is no injunction in the Quran to form a government and the Islamic State will be declared only when God grants us the power for it. You seem to assume that Allah will bestow us with government authority without any human effort. Even assuming, not admitting, there is no injunction in the Quran anywhere to form a government, so long as the Quran contains Laws that can be made applicable only under a system of government with authority to rule, it is not EVEN required any injunction in the Quran anywhere to form a government. When you put a glass of milk before your child, you do not need to verbally instruct your child to drink. The instruction is there by default. However, Quran gives instructions at various places through different ways to follow and establish all the divine laws contained in the Quran. And we are responsible to see that all Quranic laws are implemented and of course Allah will hold us responsible for any dereliction of duty in this regard, borrowing your own comments, only after thorough consideration of all aspects of our appallingly limited capabilities.
Just because there are divine commandments regarding married life, do I need to marry, compulsorily?
You wrote:
Finally, even the terms like Nahy 'anil munkar - forbidding evil -, which you repeatedly mentioned in your posts is not something related to our private affairs only. Ultimately, it would require a governmental authority to fight against and eradicate all evils.
Enforcement is not necessarily part of Amr bil Ma'roof, and Nahy 'Anil Munkar.
Regards,
Al Ismail Sait.