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General Discussions / Re: Understanding Sacred/Involiable/Forbidden Months

« on: September 27, 2016, 10:10:37 PM »

War is only permitted in self defense during the 8 months. However, it is not permitted at all during the sacred months, except in the most DESPERATE of occurrences.
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wanderer

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General Discussions / Re: Witness

« on: September 27, 2016, 07:16:03 AM »

I don't really understand what you are getting at here but this verse (2:282) is specifically talking about debt.
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wanderer

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General Discussions / Re: Witness

« on: September 27, 2016, 07:06:16 AM »

Firstly, this is only applicable in the matter of debt. Secondly, the second woman is only needed IF the first is not able to provide adequate witness. If she is, no need for second woman is needed. This is because back then, women had little education, and therefore there was a greater chance that they would err.
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wanderer

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General Discussions / Re: contradiction in quran

« on: September 26, 2016, 01:24:46 AM »

Yes, their "dust" here is a clear reference to the disintegrated ruins of their houses.
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wanderer

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General Discussions / Re: Confusion on the translation of 2:249

« on: September 25, 2016, 08:00:03 AM »

Although there is room for varying opinions

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General Discussions / Re: Confusion on the translation of 2:249

« on: September 25, 2016, 07:58:30 AM »

Yes, that is my interpretation.
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wanderer

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General Discussions / Re: question about the translation of 2:249

« on: September 25, 2016, 07:47:09 AM »

My interpretation? Those who drank were left behind and did not join Saul. Some of those who remained with Saul were then scared that they would be crushed by Goliath. But those of Saul's companions who were perhaps stronger in faith consoled them, telling them they had God on their side.
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wanderer

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General Discussions / Re: Take what the Prophet gives you through the tongues of later generations? 59:7

« on: September 22, 2016, 09:12:36 PM »

I don't think there's a connection, but, yes, during the Prophet's time there were certain Jews/Christians, who had concealed/deliberately misread passages of Scripture to suit their own desires. Not so unlike certain Muslim scholars today...
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wanderer

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General Discussions / Re: Take what the Prophet gives you through the tongues of later generations? 59:7

« on: September 22, 2016, 03:27:39 PM »

I'm really confused as to what your question is, can you please clarify it so I can try to help?
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wanderer

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General Discussions / Re: How do we explain of the pact of umar with Jews and Christians to non muslims

« on: September 22, 2016, 12:54:53 AM »

Such a topic is outside the realms of a Quran centric/Quranist viewpoint. There is no mention of Umar in the Quran.
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wanderer

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General Discussions / Re: Contradiction??

« on: September 19, 2016, 11:05:36 PM »

 

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General Discussions / Re: Contradiction??

« on: September 19, 2016, 10:38:51 PM »

Salam Nura
I didn't find anything about your post to be 'unacceptable'. I just needed some time to think over your post.
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wanderer

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General Discussions / Re: Contradiction??

« on: September 19, 2016, 04:04:05 PM »

Thank you Sister Nura for your thoughtful response. While I am not certain of your conclusions, your deep knowledge of the Quran is always an inspiration to me.
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wanderer

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General Discussions / Re: Contradiction??

« on: September 19, 2016, 01:43:42 PM »

The only thing I can think of is that 45:14 refers to non-kufr non-Muslims and that 9:113 refers to kufr, especially those who attacked the believers and broke treaties (in the context of Surah 9). This finds support in how in the next verse it talks about following Abraham's example in not asking for forgiveness for Azar, a cruel, evil man who tried to stone and burn Abraham alive. What do you guys (especially Joseph) think about this?
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General Discussions / Contradiction??

« on: September 19, 2016, 01:23:55 PM »

How do we reconcile 9:113 with 45:14 without resorting to the blasphemy of abrogation??
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wanderer