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General Discussions / Re: Kawaiba

« on: August 07, 2016, 11:44:32 PM »

Hello Duster
Please stop being rude to me. The attack on my stated age (essentially calling me a liar) was totally uncalled for. Also, I am not "demanding answers", I simply would like people to take my inquiries seriously, as they would if it was from anybody else. The question I asked was based off what I read in that article, so the article did not help me.
Regards
wanderer

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General Discussions / Re: Kawaiba

« on: August 07, 2016, 03:08:17 PM »

So... does anyone have an answer for me?

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General Discussions / Re: Kawaiba

« on: August 07, 2016, 10:23:11 AM »

I feel like it was a mistake talking about my age on that thread. I feel that my age shouldn't matter, my beliefs, and opinions, and positions should. The quote I listed below is not in my words, but rather, the words of the Quran translation I am currently reading (Sahih International). Please take my inquiries as seriously as you would take the inquiries of any other person here.
Regards
wanderer

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General Discussions / Kawaiba

« on: August 07, 2016, 08:34:13 AM »

Hello Joseph. I really appreciated our conversation a month back where we discussed the topic of hurs in the Quran. Now I have a question about the "kawaiba" mentioned in verse 78:33 which you note are female. My translation renders then as "youthful maidens with swelling breasts", something that really disturbs me. Is this accurate? If not, who are these entities? I cant find them in any other verse. What is there purpose in the afterlife? And likewise, who are the young men of verse 76:19.
Please answer as soon as possible
Regards
wanderer

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General Discussions / Re: Sons>Daughters (?)

« on: August 04, 2016, 11:07:49 AM »

Thank you again sister Amira. Would any one else like to provide their interpretation of these verses?

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General Discussions / Re: Sons>Daughters (?)

« on: August 04, 2016, 07:19:47 AM »

I'm sorry if I seemed irate, sister Amira. It was not my intention to appear upset. And yes, you are right; from the Arabic I DO know, 'huwa' means 'he'. But what about the other verses I refered to though? And is there anyone else on this forum that can help us?
Regards,
wanderer

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General Discussions / Re: Sons>Daughters (?)

« on: August 04, 2016, 06:56:35 AM »

Also what is everyone's opinion on all the other verses that deal with this topic?

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General Discussions / Re: Sons>Daughters (?)

« on: August 04, 2016, 06:52:38 AM »

You are contradicting yourself sister Amira!! In your first post you said that the end part of verse 43:18 refered to pagan men, but now you say it refers to female children (in the context of what men are saying about them)!! Now you are making me more confused!!

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General Discussions / Re: Sons>Daughters (?)

« on: August 04, 2016, 06:31:39 AM »

Because, I just say another discussion on the Women section of this forum where it said that 43:18 did in fact refer to a girl. Please Respond
wanderer

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General Discussions / Re: Sons>Daughters (?)

« on: August 04, 2016, 06:20:47 AM »

I'm getting mixed messages here: On one hand, sister Amira is saying that the verses are not rhetorical and just mistranslated, but on the other hand brother Hassan A is saying that the verses aren't being mistranslated,  and are instead rhetorical. Who is right?? And does 43:18 refer to a man of a girl??

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General Discussions / Re: Sons>Daughters (?)

« on: August 04, 2016, 05:30:56 AM »

Hmm.. thank you for your response sister Amira, but I am still not convinced as to your claim, can you or someone else provide further proof?
Regards,
wanderer

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General Discussions / Re: Sons>Daughters (?)

« on: August 04, 2016, 04:57:06 AM »

Please elaborate.

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General Discussions / Re: Sons>Daughters (?)

« on: August 04, 2016, 04:56:46 AM »

I do not see your point at all

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General Discussions / Sons>Daughters (?)

« on: August 04, 2016, 01:43:15 AM »

Hey guys, this is a question that has been bothering me for a while now- Does the Quran value sons over daughters? I'm asking this based on the sections of the Quran that refute the claims of female deities. The tone of these verses seems to indicate that daughters are somehow less than sons, particularly the line "or has he chosen, of what he has created, daughters over sons" and verse 43:18. I know there is a reasonable answer to this, so can anyone, (especially Joseph), help me??
Regards
wanderer

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General Discussions / Re: Best translations?

« on: August 02, 2016, 01:11:45 PM »

Pickthall?? Hmm, all right, I will check it out, but I have heard very negative things about it though. What about Muhammad Asad and Laleh Bakhtiar's editions? I have heard positive things about them.