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Assalamu Alaykum

Inshallah everyone is doing well.  I have a question for Brother Joseph Islam or anyone else who knows the answer, regarding Surah 10 Ayah 38-39.   This is in regards to brother Joseph's article "Produce a Surah like it" :

http://quransmessage.com/articles/produce%20a%20surah%20FM3.htm

In the article, he mentions that :

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As is clear from the above verse, the reason that the challenge could never be met was not because the language of the Quran was far too superior for the them to emulate but because the 'bi'ilmihi walama yatihiim tawiluh' (knowledge of its interpretation) had not yet been completed nor could they yet encompass it's knowledge (bima lam yuhitu bi'ilmihi).


If possible, please provide more clarification on how the lack of knowledge of the interpretation of the Quran or the lack of being able to encompass the knowledge of the Quran, lead the Pagan Arabs to fail at meeting the challenge of the Quran?   What is the ayah referring to when it mentions "knowledge of the interpretation of the Quran and being able to encompass its knowledge"?

Do we have enough knowledge of the interpretation of the Quran today and are we able to encompass its knowledge today so the Quranic challenge can be met?   If not, doesn't that imply that the Quran is a miracle?


Thank you

May Allah Bless you all Insha Allah


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Assalamu Alaykum Brother Joseph Islam

This is a continuation of the discussion we were having in this thread:

http://www.quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=2372.0

I decided to create a new thread and copy my latest post into this new thread to make it easier for everyone:

Here is my latest post:

Assalamu Alaykum brother Joseph Islam

Thank you for the reply and I apologize for the delay in response.

Basically this is how I understand your argument and please correct me if I am wrong:

The Ayah from the Quran is pretty much saying that in the Bible there are descriptions of the nature of a true prophet (and these could be spread around throughout the Old and New Testament), which do not necessarily mention nor describe the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) exclusively, but can be indicators that the prophet was a true Prophet of God.

Am I correct in my understanding of your argument?

If so, then my follow up question is this: How would the Jews and Christians be able to use those indicators to differentiate between the truthful nature of the Prophet's message vs some one else who might claim something similar? Let's say that Person  X came around during the mission of our Prophet and claimed to be sent by Allah, Glorified be His Holy Name, how would the Jews and Christians be able to distinguish between which Prophet is the true Prophet and which one is a false one? There has to be some indicator in the Bible that would set apart our Prophet from any false claimants during his time or after his time. Or else, how would anyone be able to tell who is speaking the truth?

I hope you understand what I am trying to ask here. Basically, your argument, as interesting as it is, leaves an important question for the truth seeker: how does one use those indicators, as well as WHAT/WHERE are those indicators, that would lead one to necessarily conclude that the Prophet was sent by Allah?

I hope you can help me understand this better because for YEARS I Have been pondering on this question regarding the prophecies of the coming of our Prophet.


Fi Amaanillah

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Assalamu Alaykum Brother Joseph Islam

I saw another article, written by a Salafi shaykh, in regards to proof of the necessity of following the Sunnah:

https://islamqa.info/en/604

I would love to read your thoughts on this article as well.

Also do you plan on updating your website with new articles as well as responses to any criticisms leveled against your articles?


thank you!

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Assalamu Alaykum

I found this article by Bassam Zawadi:

http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/refuting_the_argument_that_the_only_duty_of_the_messenger_is_to_simply_deliver_the_qur_an

He strives to dismantle the core arguments of Quran-Centric/Quran Only Muslims.  Brother Joseph Islam and others, any thoughts on the arguments presented in this article?

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Assalamu Alaykum Brother Joseph Islam

First off, I want to say Ramadan Mubarak to you and your loved ones. May Allah, Azza wa Jal, accept everyones fasting and ibadaat this holy month.

I have a question regarding the article you wrote a few years back, on your website, regarding the prophecy about the Prophet (PBUH)in the Torah and Gospel in relation to Surah 7:157. The article was actually about the name Ahmad and whether or not it appeared in the Bible. In that article you said that Surah 7:157 is implying that the description of a true prophet is what is mentioned in the previous scriptures.  What is the proof that the Quran is only referring to the descriptive nature of a true prophet and not an actual description of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)? As you know already, hundreds of books and articles have been written trying to prove that such and such quote from the Bible is referring to the Prophet of Islam. The Jews and Christians always argue that against that. I found your article to be very interesting, but that question lingered in my mind and I am wondering what the proof of your argument happens to be?

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