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Resources and Information Portal / Lughat-ul-Quran BY G.A PARWEZ
« on: January 23, 2015, 02:16:48 AM »

Lughat-ul-Quran  Vol. 1 of 2 (BY G.A PARWEZ)
http://www.amazon.com/dp/150539497X/ref=cm_sw_r_fa_dp_T46Vub17J739F

Lughat-ul-Quran  Vol. 2 of 2 (BY G.A PARWEZ)
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1506147461/ref=cm_sw_r_fa_dp_n46Vub1QNVXRX

In order to understand the true message and spirit of the Holy Quran, it is essential to know the language it has been revealed in. The first step is to understand the meaning of individual words. One needs to understand how words were used by the ancient Arabs by the time of Quranic revelation, and not depend on anyone's explanation or understanding as to what they mean today. Along with proper understanding of Arabic grammar, the true meanings of Quranic words, and their use with respect to the context in which they have been revealed in, one student of Quran may get closer to the Truth. The task of creating a Quranic dictionary or encyclopedia that would explain the classical meanings of Quranic words and their use along with significance was undertaken by Allama Ghulam Ahmed Parwez in 1960, where he compiled Lughat-ul-Quran in Urdu language. Now this dictionary has been translated to English by Quranic Education Society in Norway, in order to appeal to a larger audience worldwide and to inspire modern Quranic students.

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General Discussions / a "sahih" hadith!!
« on: June 08, 2014, 04:12:33 AM »
Here is a "Sahih" hadith recorded by Bukhari.

Volume 3, Book 31, Number 207: Narrated Abu Aiyub from Juwairiya bint Al-Harith:
The Prophet visited her (Juwairiya) on a Friday and she was fasting. He asked her, "Did you fast yesterday?" She said, "No." He said, "Do you intend to fast tomorrow?" She said, "No." He said, "Then break your fast." Through another series of narrators, Abu Aiyub is reported to have said, "He ordered her and she broke her fast."

 ???

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General Discussions / Insha Allah
« on: March 23, 2014, 04:43:36 PM »
Dear All,
Salaam!

In the story of Moses meeting a Servant of Allah from verse 18:65 onwards, the following is mentioned;

قَالَ سَتَجِدُنِي إِنْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ صَابِرًا وَلَا أَعْصِي لَكَ أَمْرًا
Moses said: "Thou wilt find me, if Allah so will, (truly) patient: nor shall I disobey thee in aught."

However, Moses could not remain patient.

Any thoughts?

Regards
Optimist

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/oxfam-warns-davos-of-pernicious-impact-of-the-widening-wealth-gap-9070714.html

A tiny elite comprising the richest 85 individuals hold wealth equivalent to that owned by the bottom half of the world's population, a report says.

The report by worldwide development organisation Oxfam, titled 'Working For the Few', published ahead of the World Economic Forum meet in Davos, details the impact that widening inequality is having in both developed and developing nations.

"Wealthy elites have co-opted political power to rig the rules of the economic game, undermining democracy and creating a world where the 85 richest people own the wealth of half of the world’s population," Oxfam claimed.


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Salaam!

In the divine system every individual works to full capacity, but keeps only what he needs, whilst leaving the remainder of his earnings open for the benefit of society. 

And they ask you as to what they should spend (in God's cause). Say: ‘Whatever is surplus to your needs’ (2:219)

In the divine system the responsibility of ensuring that sustenance reaches each and every member of society falls on the administration (11:6).  It will take care of their children as well (17:31)

The Quran says:  “Satan threatens you with the prospect of poverty and bids you to be miserly (fahsha) - Whereas God promises you His forgiveness (ghafr) and bounty” (2:268).  (The word ghafr is usually translated as ‘forgive’, the word ghafr actually means “protect” or “succor”).

In the above, the Quran has explained the difference between man-made and divine system in just a few words.  In the former every individual is responsible for meeting his own needs, and in this type of society the individual is worried only about his own future. He lives in constant fear of a day in which he is unable (for whatever reason) to provide for himself and his children.  He is forced to live in the fear of threat of poverty.  This powerful feeling of insecurity is the underlying root of the need to hoard to the grave (102-1-2)

In the divine system no one shall be allowed to hoard wealth and hoarding of wealth will be considered a grave crime with dire consequences (9:35). 

But as for those who lay up treasures of gold and silver and do not spend them for the sake of God – give them the tiding of grievous suffering (in the life to come) (9:34)

The words infaaq fe sabil-allah in the above verse is usually translated as ‘spend in the path of God’ needs proper explanation.  Nafaq (from which infaaq is derived) refers to a tunnel that is open at both ends (the antonym of nafaq is sarb, which is a one-way tunnel closed at the other end.  The meaning of infaaq in the Quran is to leave resources open to everyone.  In the Quran, in fact, bukhal is used as the antonym of infaaaq.  Bukhal means ‘stinginess’ or ‘meanness’, i.e to ‘to keep to oneself’, or ‘to hold onto’ or ‘hoard’.  Contrary to this, the meaning of infaaq is to ‘keep open’ for the benefit of everyone, or ‘open up’, and to ‘remove restrications’.  Therefore any society that bases itself on the principle of infaaq fi sabil-allah is one in the which every individual leaves open the fruit of his labour for the benefit of the collective. He/she will not place restrictions on what he/she gives away.  Every member of this society will constantly keep the interest of the whole in mind, thus place the collective interest above self interest.

An aside:  according to one hadith: Ibn-e-Abbas says that when this verse (9:34) was revealed to the messenger, the believers were confounded. They became heavy-hearted.  Umar Ibn Khattab said to them, ‘I will take your trouble away and ease your hardship’.  Thereupon Umar went to the Messenger and beseeched him. ‘Oh Messenger of God! This verse has troubled your companions. The Messenger replied. ‘This is why God has made Zakaat obligatory, so that the rest of wealth will become purified: and (similarly), inheritance laws have been made obligatory to ensure that those you leave behind after death will receive your wealth’. Upon hearing the Messenger’s reply, Umar happily declared : “God is great! (Abu Dhaud, citing from Mishqaat, chapter Kitab al Zakaat)[/i]

It is clear from the tone of the above hadith that it is an invented hadith. Numerous verses testify that the believers hearts would never become ‘heavy’ at hearing a divine command (See 8:2, 13:28, 16:22, 22:35, 23:60, 48:4, 58:22).  In fact it is the hypocrites whose hearts become heavy at hearing divine commandments (e.g. 47:24, 9:125)

In the divine system neither the land nor its resources can be taken into private ownership.  These are left open for the benefit of all (41:10)

In Surah Al Ra’d, it is said that an idea struck the mind of the prophet: ‘Whether the revolution for which I have spent my whole life, will be accomplished in my life time or not?’ He replied: ‘You do not bother yourself whether this will be fulfilled during this life of yours or otherwise, you have to see that this Message is publicised. It will meet its fulfillment either during you worldly life or otherwise. Don’t you see how We are limiting and reducing the land and its area from the big landholders”. This is Our verdict (that their ownership on land shall be terminated), and no power on earth can invert Our verdict. Very soon We will call them to account’ (13:41).

In Surah Al Anbiya’, it is said: ‘They and their ancestors got the land to produce means of livelihood. With the lapse of time they established their adverse possession. Now We are gradually withdrawing it from their hands. Our program will get accomplished undoubtedly. They will not win over Us’ (21:44). In the power achieved due to landlordism, there is an indication that it will be abolished.

                                                                                                       .........to be continued
Regards
Optimist

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General Discussions / Response to A. Ismail Sait : Islamic State
« on: December 10, 2013, 03:23:16 AM »
People proclaim from housetops that Prophet Muhammed is an example for us in every way. And they go to great lengths to justify their statement.

When they are asked to show us how he is an example for us to emulate as regards our attitude to parents, they are lost. They immediately try to narrate his reported advice regarding parents, or they try to quote injunctions from Al Qur'an.

Duty to parents, according to Qur'an, is something Allah mentions immediately after His injunction not to deem partners unto Him!

Such a cardinal value, not found implemented in our Prophet's life?!

This being the historical truth, the question arises: Did the Prophet, who is reckoned as the ultimate ideal, really fulfill Allah's Deen?

It all means, that, striving for authority in the land, is not our goal. For, it is not indispensable for establishing the system of Salat, or, in other words, establishing Divine Laws, effectively.

The moment we interpret Iqama Al Saat, or Iqama Al Deen as a double quest, that of inculcating Millathe Ibrahim in our personal lives on the one hand, and, of implementing the full Qur'anic Jurisprudence on the other hand, we become guilty of frayed concentration, and thus we are neither here, nor there.

In Al Qur'an, first, Allah praises the Sahaba and expresses the hope that they are such that if they are given power in the land, they will establish (as far is in their power) Salat, implement the system of Zakah, bid kindness, and also forbid evil. (22:41)

Then, in (24:55), He pledges power in the land to those among them who "believe and do righteous deeds". Finally, in the same verse, He concludes, that such power, coupled with the thoufeeq to establish Salat, institute Zakah, and to Bid Kndness and Forbid Evil, comes only to those who are thoroughly established in Thouheed. (24:55)

But when we join "striving for power", with Iqama Al Deen, or Iqama Al Salah, we are committing Shirk!

Brother  A. Ismail Sait,  Salaam Alaikum

I thought it is better to create a separate thread to make a few comments for your above post.  It is really disappointing to note you are discussing things under false premises. You seem to even bring up new definitions for shirk! 

Firstly, let me point out a wrong interpretation you have given for verse 22:41 (may be not deliberate on your part).  You wrote: “In Al Qur'an, first, Allah praises the Sahaba and expresses the hope that they are such that if they are given power in the land, they will establish (as far is in their power) Salat, implement the system of Zakah, bid kindness, and also forbid evil. (22:41)”.   

Your comment “Allah expresses the hope that…” is a blunder.  What is stated by Allah is strongly worded statement, the character of the Muslims as to what they WILL DO if they are given POWER in the land (Makkannahum Fil Ardu) meaning governmental authority to rule.   You further stated they will establish “as far is in their power”! which is rather a silly comment in the context of the verse.  This comment could be relevant if no authority is given on the land (can be applicable for people like you and me).   You are knowingly or unknowingly diluting the message contained in the verse.  The reason for this style of interpretation is clear from your comment, “The moment we interpret Iqama Al Saat, or Iqama Al Deen as a double quest, that of inculcating Millathe Ibrahim in our personal lives on the one hand, and, of implementing the full Qur'anic Jurisprudence on the other hand, we become guilty of frayed concentration, and thus we are neither here, nor there.”  Appreciate if you can further explain what you actually wanted to convey by this comment.  Do you know what Quran has stated :

"Do you then believe in a part of the book and reject the rest But what shall be the recompense for those among you who behave like this, except disgrace in this life, and on the Day of Judgment they shall be consigned to the most grievous chastisement".(2:85)  The Quranic Laws are meant to be established in totality, not whatever convenient for us.  Therefore, it is imperative that Muslims must strive hard to establish an Islamic society based on Quranic Laws. 

It must be understood that, obedience to Divine Laws is not a thing belonging to the individual plane in the sense that one might, of his own, consult the Quran, interpret it for himself and act according to his individual interpretation. The obedience has to be disciplined and ordered under an organised system (called State in the present day terminology) controlled by a central authority.  Such a state was first established for them by our Prophet (pbuh) and the pattern that was presented by him continued to be followed for some time after his death and the rest is history we know.  Suffice to state that the way of life prescribed by the Quran can be established effectively only through establishment of an Islamic state based on the Quran.  It is not required to tell you that the Quranic Laws are not just Laws covering our personal and private affairs.   For the time being, let me quote a few verses from the Quran.   I shall make further comments later, Insha Allah.

 “Those who do not judge according to what God has revealed are unbelievers.” 5:47.

“…So judge between them according to what God has revealed and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the finally established truth that has come to you…”  5:48.

And they who have attained to faith, and who have forsaken the domain of evil and are striving hard in God's cause, as well as those who shelter and succour [them] – it is they, they who are truly believers!  8:74.

" Follow the revelation given unto you from your Lord, and follow not, as friends or protectors, other than Him. Little it is ye remember of admonition. 7:3

"And to them (the prophets) He sent the Book in truth, to judge between people in matters wherein they differed."(2:213)

Shall I seek other than Allah for Judge, when how it is who hath revealed unto you this Book fully explained (6:115).

Whose do not judge by what Allah hath revealed, they are indeed kafirs (5:44)

Kind regards
Optimist

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Salaam,

http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=628.0

While going through the above thread, (I salute you brother Jospeh Islam for the explanation and the insight), I happened to read the interpretation given by Dr. Shabbir. 

Shabbir Ahmed   11:78
And the most iniquitous among his people came rushing to Lot. (They wanted the visiting messengers to approve their behavior.) Lot said, "O My people! Your wives, who are like my daughters, are permitted for you. Be mindful of God, and do not humiliate me in the presence of my guests. Is there not a single upright man among you?"


With all due respect to Dr. Shabbir,  I believe the underlined part totally contradicts what Quran has stated.  It goes against even logic  prophet Lut making such a comment in such a heightened state of emotion.  I completely agree with brother Jospeh Islam that it was a last ditch attempt from the part of prophet Lut to avert an imminent punishment.  According to me, even assuming prophet lut did not know about any imminent punishment, his comments were normal, (1) he was very much concerned about the safety of his guests and he was responsible to save them and to protect their honour (2) he knows from his experience that even if he offered his daughters they would not accept them which is clear from the very next verse, from their reply, "They said: "Well dost thou know we have no need of thy daughters: indeed thou knowest quite well what we want!".   

Many of our scholars, in their effort to "save"  prophet lut interpret the Quran differently.  I have noticed many use brackets to explain that his daughters were offered in marriage.   Anyhow, the interpretation given by Dr. Shabbir is very funny.

Regards
Optimist

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General Discussions / Was Ayesha really a child bride?
« on: October 13, 2013, 09:22:02 PM »
Dear brother Joseph Islam,

I really liked your article, WAS AYESHA REALLY A CHILD BRIDE? - MARRIAGEABLE AGE FROM THE QURAN, especially your explanation regarding marriageable age from Quran.   It was highly focused and with great intelligence!

http://quransmessage.com/articles/ayesha%20age%20FM3.htm

Additionally, we cannot take hadiths as a source of evidence in this regard, because even prophet’s stay in Mecca is differently reported in hadiths as 10 years, 13 years & 15 years.

Bukhari Volume 7, Book 72, Number 787:  Narrated Anas bin Malik:

The Prophet was neither conspicuously tall, nor short; neither, very white, nor tawny. His hair was neither much curled, nor very straight. Allah sent him (as an Apostle) at the age of forty (and after that) he stayed for ten years in Mecca, and for ten more years in Medina. Allah took him unto Him at the age of sixty, and he scarcely had ten white hairs on his head and in his beard.
http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/hadith/bukhari/072-sbt.php

Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 190: Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:
Allah's Apostle was inspired Divinely at the age of forty. Then he stayed in Mecca for thirteen years, and then was ordered to migrate, and he migrated to Medina and stayed there for ten years and then died
http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/hadith/bukhari/058-sbt.php

Muslim Book 030, Number 5809:
Ibn 'Abbas reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) stayed in Mecca for fifteen years (after his advent as a Prophet) and he heard the voice of Gabriel and saw his radiance for seven years but did not see any visible form, and then received revelation for ten years, and he stayed in Medina for ten years.

http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/hadith/muslim/030-smt.php

Regards,
Optimist

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General Discussions / hypothetical question..!!
« on: September 22, 2013, 07:51:22 PM »
Salaam!

Firstly, let me state that this is my final posting under this thread. Under no circumstance I shall post any further comments since I had earlier participated in a discussion related to this topic.  

This is just a hypothetical question with reference to the birth of  Jesus.   Appreciate pointing out if there are any logical error.  As we all know, it is repeated mentioned many times in Quran to use our logic.  The purpose of this post is for me to know if there is error in the logic. 

The Question:  What will be the normal reaction of a righteous girl, if someone, let’s say an angel, informs her about good news about birth of a son.  Let me list down the probable answers. 

(a)  If she is married, she will assume that the news is about having a son in the wedlock.  In Mary’s case, from the reaction, "How shall I have a son since no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste" (19:20), and it is also therefore clear that she is not married. 

(b). If she is unmarried, in the normal circumstances, she will consider that the good news is about a future prospect of having a son in a wedlock.  This is quite normal.

©.  However, an unmarried girl, ONLY IF, she understood the good news to mean ALSO that she is already pregnant, THEN there is a ‘possibility’ to react “how can I have a son when no man has touched me and I am not unchaste”  (BECAUSE Here she ignores the possibility of getting married in future because she is already pregnant).    It may be the reason why most scholars explain that when the good news was conveyed to Mary she was already pregnant.    HOWEVER, even under this circumstance, there are logical questions to be answered;  (1) There is no evidence in the Quran to show that Mary was conveyed that she was already pregnant; only good news about the birth of a son was conveyed to her. (2) There is no proof Mary had knowledge that she is already pregnant.  (3)  The additional comment "I am not unchaste"  is rather unnecessary since no man has touched me is sufficient as a reaction (3) The most important point.   If Mary HAD UNDERSTOOD the news to mean that she was already pregnant, the most probable reaction would have been, “how I am pregnant when no man has touched me” (because her initial shock and concern should be how she got pregnant, not the birth of the son in future). 

(d)  If an unmarried girl who is leading a life as a nun (whether she knows she is pregnant of not) and who believes that she is not supposed to marry in future, it is perfectly logical to react “how can I have a son when no man has touched me and I am not unchaste”.  Please note the most important point here.  Mary is NOT thinking here about a marriage prospect in future at all.   

Regards
Optimist

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General Discussions / man is not 'successor'/ 'viceregent' of Allah
« on: July 27, 2013, 08:33:42 PM »
Salam All,

Quran states in 2:30 “I will create a ‘khalifa’ on the earth”. It actually points towards the creation of a successor to the preceding generations that lived on the earth before mankind and not as successor/viceregent of Allah.   In order to clarify the point that man is not successor of Allah, we shall have to clarify the meaning of the word Khalifa.  There are three basic concepts in the meaning of the words with root (a) to succeed (b) to follow and (c) to undergo change. 

The Holy Quran is self-explanatory.  It says: 25:62 “And it is He who made the night and the day to follow each other”. وَهُوَ الَّذِي جَعَلَ اللَّيْلَ وَالنَّهَارَ خِلْفَةً

Again it is said : (2:164) “Day and night coming one after the other”.  وَاخْتِلَافِ اللَّيْلِ وَالنَّهَارِ

B’ can become Khalifa of ‘A’ only in his absence.    ‘B’ cannot take the place as Khalifa in the presence of A.  The following verses of the Quran support it:

Before Moses went up on the mount for communication with Allah, he said to his brother Aaron: (7:142) “You shall succeed me amongst my people (in my absence)”.  وَقَالَ مُوسَىٰ لِأَخِيهِ هَارُونَ اخْلُفْنِي فِي قَوْمِي

And yet another place it is said: (10:14)   “Then We made you successors in land ثُمَّ جَعَلْنَاكُمْ خَلَائِفَ فِي الْأَرْضِ  after them, to see how you would behave”.

Hud said to his people: 11:57   “(if you turn away from the Divine Guidance) my Lord will make another people to succeed you”.  وَيَسْتَخْلِفُ رَبِّي قَوْمًا غَيْرَكُمْ

About the people of ‘Aad it is said: (7:69)   “In that He made you successors after the people of Noah”.   خُلَفَاءَ مِنْ بَعْدِ قَوْمِ نُوحٍ

The Quran has, thus, amply clarified that a Khalifa is a successor in the absence of or on the death of his predecessor.

Regards,
Optimist

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General Discussions / Fog delays declaration of Ramadan!!!
« on: July 10, 2013, 07:41:16 PM »
Ramadan Mubarak to all!!

It is time for Muslims to fix their holy month and Eid celebrations based on lunar calendar in advance

http://gulfnews.com/in-focus/ramadan/fog-delays-declaration-of-ramadan-in-uae-1.1207272

May Allah bless us to observe the fasting in a manner that is pleasing to Him

Optimist

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General Discussions / The criminals who try to hijack Islam!
« on: June 15, 2013, 10:15:44 PM »
QUETTA, 15 JUNE: In a sinister attack, militants today targeted a bus of a women's university with a bomb and then stormed a hospital where the victims were being rushed to in the Pakistani city of Quetta, killing at least 15 people and injuring more than 20.

A powerful blast ripped through a stationary bus within the campus of Sardar Bahadur Khan Women's University at Brewery Road this afternoon. Students and faculty members were waiting to go home when a bomb planted in the bus went off. Several girls sustained severe burn injuries as the explosion triggered a fire.

Less than an hour later, sounds of explosions and firing spread panic and chaos through the Bolan Medical Complex where most of the wounded had been taken. At least three explosions were heard from inside the hospital.

http://www.thestatesman.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=461122&catid=37

The whole 'Muslim' world sleeping. What a tragedy!

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General Discussions / 4:43 intoxicated / overwhelmed by sleep?
« on: June 15, 2013, 05:44:38 PM »
Salaam!

I read the following from Lughat-ul-Quran from Allama Parwez, just posing for a scholarly study and analysis. I will not get involved in any discussion. If anyone would like to post a comment or a rebuttal I would love to just read only.  I feel like, it is something to do with relying on "what is best" when it is susceptible for different interpretations. I may or may not agree the choice of meaning given below for 4:43.

Sukr : To be intoxicated

Raghib (Raghib Isfahani’s famous book “almafrudaat fi gharibul Quran – The sayings of the Quran) says this is a condition which comes between a man and his intellect.  Usually this word is used for intoxication but such condition can also be produced by anger and love {Taj-ul-Uroos, Muheet}.

Ibn Faris (Ibn Fabris’ “muqabeesul Lugha”) says it basically means “surprise”.

Sakar : Alcohol, intoxication (16:67)
Sakrah: Stupor, unconsciousness.   This is a condition of stupor.

The Quran has said Sakaratul Maut in 50:18, which means unconsciousness of death.

Surah An-Nisa says “do not go near salaah when you are Sukara” (4:43).  Here the word Sukara is usually taken to mean stupor, but lissan-ul-arab (compiled by Ibn Mukarram,  died in 711 Hijri) says that it means overwhelming of sleep.

Sukaara has been used for people who are out of their senses due to fear and tribulation (22:2, 75:72)
Sakrah has been used for the stupor that is produced by an overflow of emotions.

as-sakr : to close a canal
sakiratir reeh : the wind became silent
al-ma’us saakir : standing water
sakarul Baab: closed the door (Taj-ul-Uroos, Raghib)
sak-karahu : strangulated him

Surah Al-Hijr, verse 15:15 says our eyes were blinded – sukarat absaaruna - (we have been hoodwinked). 

Recall the said verse of Surah An-Nisa (4:43) which says “when you are overwhelmed by sleep do not go near salaat”.  Here the word Sukara is the plural form of sakran and sakranah

Further ahead it is said in the same verse, “until you know what you are saying”.  This means in a condition (sleepy condition) when you do not even know what you are saying there is no use in praying.  The first thing is that you should understand what you are saying in Salaat.  Only then Salaah is of use. 

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Dear Bassam, Assalamu alaikum

I am creating a new thread based on your request to start a new thread.   I quoted the following hadith from Bukahri in another thread  to expose the fallacy of your argument that hadith is divine revelation (this spurious hadith was just the previous hadith of an another hadith you yourself quoted).   If the moderators here find it proper to do, kindly delete my last post made in another thread mentioning the same questions I am going to post hereunder.  Here is the hadith (falsely attributed to the prophet as authentic by Bukhari)

Narrated Said bin Al-Musaiyab: Abu Huraira said, "I heard Allah's Apostle saying, 'There is none born among the off-spring of Adam, but Satan touches it. A child therefore, cries loudly at the time of birth because of the touch of Satan, except Mary and her child." Then Abu Huraira recited: "And I seek refuge with You for her and for her offspring from the outcast Satan" (3.36)  

You posted a comment providing me the following link stating that the issue has been already addressed by you in this link.   http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/rebuttal_to_sam_shamoun_s_article__jesus__superiority_revisited_

Kindly note that, I have already checked your above link, unfortunately, my main concerns for the hadith is not addressed in the above link, and your comments were mainly focused on countering Shamoun’s claim of superiority of Jesus over prophet Muhamed.   Therefore, I have the following questions. 

1. Do you think there is no medical reason for why the new borns cry?   According to medical science a new born baby has to cry otherwise brain will not get oxygen immediately and this can bring serious complications later.   When the baby is in the womb it doesn’t breath through the nose but by umbilical cord, so when it comes out there is no oxygen going in through the nose since the baby doesn’t know how to breath so the nurse will hit their tiny buttocks and they will respond to the pain will a yell which automatically opens the nose and the lungs start pumping oxygen.  In some cases, babies born at home, into a quiet, warm environment (especially during water birth) sometimes do not cry and no complications may happen in those circumstances.  Babies need to be monitored only under such circumstances.   Therefore, there is pure science involved for babies crying.  It is not Satan’s touch that makes them cry.  Kindly let me know your view whether there is any medical reason for the new born babies cry and also your experience on this point.

2. There are some babies that do not cry at the time of birth.   Will they come under the category of Mary and Jesus? i.e, They do not cry, is it because of Satan not touching them?

3. Why Mary and Jesus alone were exempted from Satan’s touching and (most probably did not cry)?   This question is important, because, as per the hadith, even prophet Ibrahim was not excluded from Satan's touching.  And why Mary and Jesus alone?  Don't you think this hadith makes discrimination among different prophets?

4. Don’t you think this hadith contradicts another ahaadith reported by both Bukhari and Muslim wherein the prophet said that each and every child is born in a state of Fitrah?

5. You quoted a hadith from Volume 1, Book 4, Number 143: Narrated Ibn 'Abbas, in which prophet said “If anyone of you on having sexual relations with his wife said 'In the name of Allah. O Allah! Protect us from Satan and also protect what you bestow upon us (i.e. the coming offspring) from Satan, and if it is destined that they should have a child then, Satan will never be able to harm that offspring." My question is this:  Are you saying that babies born in the above circumstances won’t cry??

I expect from you some brief comments for my points at your convenience.

Thanks, regards
Optimist

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General Discussions / Was there Wahi besides Quran?
« on: May 05, 2013, 03:19:49 AM »
Salaam!

The Quran states clearly that what was being sent down to the Messenger was nothing else but the Quran;

Ha Mim: A REVELATION from the Beneficent, the Merciful Allah: A BOOK, whereof the Ayat are explained in detail; - a QURAN in Arabic, for people who understand - (41:1-3).

The Messenger himself is made to confirm that the Wahi he is receiving is the Quran:

‘And this Quran has been revealed to me [uhiya ilayya ha_zal Qur'an] that with it I may warn you and whomsoever it reaches?’ (6:19)

Even hypocrites were afraid that a Surah might be revealed to show their hypocrisy. The Prophet’s ordinary speech was always present, but the Quran tells us that it was a Surah that they were afraid would reveal their hypocrisy:

‘The hypocrites fear lest a Surah (chapter of the Qur'an) should be sent down to them telling them plainly of what is in their hearts. Say: Go on mocking, surely Allah will bring forth what you fear?’ - (9:64)

Moreover;

‘O you who believe! Do not put questions about things which if declared to you may trouble you, and if you question about them when the Quran is being revealed, they shall be declared to you; Allah pardons this, and Allah is Forgiving, Forbearing.’ -(Ch.5: Ver.101)

The above restriction would have been meaningless if Prophet had received other revelations besides the Quran. This proves that there were no other revelations besides the Quran.

In addition to the Qur'anic evidence, even the books of Hadith also refute this baseless claim that the Messenger was receiving other revelations besides the Qur'an:

Bukhari: Volume 4, Book 52, Number 283: Narrated Abu Juhaifa: I asked Ali, Do you have the knowledge of any Divine Inspiration besides what is in Allah's Book?" 'Ali replied, "No, by Him who splits the grain of corn and creates the soul. I don't think we have such knowledge, but we have the ability of understanding which Allah may endow a person with, so that he may understand the Qur'an, and we have what is written in this paper as well. I asked, what is written in this paper? He replied, (The regulations of) blood-money, the freeing of captives, and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel.

The claim of un-recited revelation to prophet is a fabrication.   Such a view is deliberately promoted to justify collection of hadiths and its authenticity.  The Quran does not support such fabrications.

Regards,
Optimist

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