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Discussions / A CALL TO UNITE ALL BELIEVERS.
« on: May 07, 2017, 12:06:32 PM »
Peace all.
Calling all believers:  Monotheists, Submitters,Qoran centrics,others.... to GOD Alone, All you, whatever religion you may be, that are seeking "GOD ALONE". Let us unite in our aim:

Calling to the Creator, so we may be one congregation with "our Lord":

3:64″ Say:” O followers of the scripture ( all the religions out there that follow a scripture!), let us come to a logical agreement between us (loyalists to GOD ALONE) and you:” That we never serve/worship except GOD; That we never set up any idols beside HIM, nor set up any human beings ( Prophets/ Messiah/Religious leaders, Scholars, etc….) as lords beside GOD.” If they turn away, say:” Bear witness that we are Muslimeen. ( Totally loyal to GOD ALONE)”

( Does your religion have Abraham , Some Jewish prophets, other messengers?)

3:67″ Abraham ( along with other prophets/messengers and believers) was neither Jewish nor Christian. ( nor traditional Muslim nor Shinto nor any other religion you can name .) He was a true Muslim/ submitter.( Totally loyal to GOD ALONE) He never was an idol Worshipper.”

3:85″ Anyone who accepts other than Islam/submission ( and total loyalty to GOD ALONE) , it will not be accepted from him and in the hereafter, he will be with the losers.”

Let us get the most important priority right:  GOD ALONE is the top priority.

Let us put all the differences of minor issues aside. Let us not be arrogant in whatever the Lord has provided for each of us ( Knowledge, wealth, friends ...)

4:49″ Have you noted those who exalt themselves. (very important people! including some scholars, some Religious leaders , some experts etc…. They understand better than the ordinary person?)  GOD is the one who exalts whomever HE wills ( best Teacher, best Expert.) without the least injustice. ( HE knows your innermost thought, if you pass HIS test, you qualify!)

Let us altogether hold fast to the rope of GOD. Pledge to follow HIM ALONE!

4:60″ Have you (also) noted those who claim they believe in GOD s scripture then uphold the laws of their idols? ( They follow made up rules , traditions and hocus pocus! Internet sites; Replace old idols with new "idols".) They were commanded to reject such laws.” ( If they follow the word of GOD ALONE)

 
4:63″ GOD is fully aware of their innermost intentions. ( some of these experts/ leaders etc….) You shall ignore them ,( check and prove all things!) enlighten them ( let them reflect on these words of GOD!) and give them good advice ( to repent! GOD is waiting to forgive them if they correct!) that they may save themselves.”

 A Call to GOD ALONE.

4:65″ Never indeed by your Lord, they are not( true) believers until they find no hesitation in their hearts, ( to sincerely repent) they must submit, a true Islam/submission ( To GOD ALONE).”

GOD bless.
Peace
 

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General Discussions / People of Araaf
« on: November 27, 2015, 09:21:05 PM »
Split from the topic in the following thread, Reply #2

http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=1744.msg8088#msg8088

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Peace mia.

Actually Qoran speaks about the people of "Aaraf":
7:40
Surely, those who reject our revelations and are too arrogant to uphold them, the gates of the sky will never open for them, nor will they enter Paradise until the camel passes through the needle's eye. We thus requite the guilty.
إِنَّ الَّذينَ كَذَّبوا بِـٔايٰتِنا وَاستَكبَروا عَنها لا تُفَتَّحُ لَهُم أَبوٰبُ السَّماءِ وَلا يَدخُلونَ الجَنَّةَ حَتّىٰ يَلِجَ الجَمَلُ فى سَمِّ الخِياطِ وَكَذٰلِكَ نَجزِى المُجرِمينَ
7:41
They have incurred Hell as an abode; they will have barriers above them. We thus requite the transgressors.
لَهُم مِن جَهَنَّمَ مِهادٌ وَمِن فَوقِهِم غَواشٍ وَكَذٰلِكَ نَجزِى الظّٰلِمينَ
7:42
As for those who believe and lead a righteous life - we never burden any soul beyond its means - these will be the dwellers of Paradise. They abide in it forever.
وَالَّذينَ ءامَنوا وَعَمِلُوا الصّٰلِحٰتِ لا نُكَلِّفُ نَفسًا إِلّا وُسعَها أُولٰئِكَ أَصحٰبُ الجَنَّةِ هُم فيها خٰلِدونَ
7:43
We will remove all jealousy from their hearts. Rivers will flow beneath them, and they will say, "God be praised for guiding us. We could not possibly be guided, if it were not that God has guided us. The messengers of our Lord did bring the truth." They will be called: "This is your Paradise. You have inherited it, in return for your works."
وَنَزَعنا ما فى صُدورِهِم مِن غِلٍّ تَجرى مِن تَحتِهِمُ الأَنهٰرُ وَقالُوا الحَمدُ لِلَّهِ الَّذى هَدىٰنا لِهٰذا وَما كُنّا لِنَهتَدِىَ لَولا أَن هَدىٰنَا اللَّهُ لَقَد جاءَت رُسُلُ رَبِّنا بِالحَقِّ وَنودوا أَن تِلكُمُ الجَنَّةُ أورِثتُموها بِما كُنتُم تَعمَلونَ
7:44
The dwellers of Paradise will call the dwellers of Hell: "We have found our Lord's promise to be the truth, have you found your Lord's promise to be the truth?" They will say, "Yes." An announcer between them will announce: "God's condemnation has befallen the transgressors;
وَنادىٰ أَصحٰبُ الجَنَّةِ أَصحٰبَ النّارِ أَن قَد وَجَدنا ما وَعَدَنا رَبُّنا حَقًّا فَهَل وَجَدتُم ما وَعَدَ رَبُّكُم حَقًّا قالوا نَعَم فَأَذَّنَ مُؤَذِّنٌ بَينَهُم أَن لَعنَةُ اللَّهِ عَلَى الظّٰلِمينَ
7:45
"who repel from the path of God, and strive to make it crooked, and, with regard to the Hereafter, they are disbelievers."
الَّذينَ يَصُدّونَ عَن سَبيلِ اللَّهِ وَيَبغونَها عِوَجًا وَهُم بِالـٔاخِرَةِ كٰفِرونَ
7:46
A barrier separates them, while the Aaraf is occupied by people who recognize each side by their looks. They will call the dwellers of Paradise: "Peace be upon you." They did not enter (Paradise) through wishful thinking.
وَبَينَهُما حِجابٌ وَعَلَى الأَعرٰفِ رِجالٌ يَعرِفونَ كُلًّا بِسيمىٰهُم وَنادَوا أَصحٰبَ الجَنَّةِ أَن سَلٰمٌ عَلَيكُم لَم يَدخُلوها وَهُم يَطمَعونَ
7:47
When they turn their eyes towards the dwellers of Hell, they will say, "Our Lord, do not put us with these wicked people."
وَإِذا صُرِفَت أَبصٰرُهُم تِلقاءَ أَصحٰبِ النّارِ قالوا رَبَّنا لا تَجعَلنا مَعَ القَومِ الظّٰلِمينَ
7:48
The dwellers of the Aaraf will call on people they recognize by their looks, saying, "Your great numbers did not avail you in any way, nor did your arrogance.
وَنادىٰ أَصحٰبُ الأَعرٰفِ رِجالًا يَعرِفونَهُم بِسيمىٰهُم قالوا ما أَغنىٰ عَنكُم جَمعُكُم وَما كُنتُم تَستَكبِرونَ
7:49
"Are those the people you swore that God will never touch them with mercy?" (The people in the Aaraf will then be told,) "Enter Paradise; you have nothing to fear, nor will you grieve."
أَهٰؤُلاءِ الَّذينَ أَقسَمتُم لا يَنالُهُمُ اللَّهُ بِرَحمَةٍ ادخُلُوا الجَنَّةَ لا خَوفٌ عَلَيكُم وَلا أَنتُم تَحزَنونَ


Who are the people of the Aaraf?

GOD bless you.
Peace.

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Islamic Duties / Re: Glorification vs Salat
« on: May 09, 2015, 07:05:57 AM »
Peace Hope.

Please allow me to share my opinion about 24:58.
 I believe GOD is talking about a right conduct during a period of privacy, not naming any salat.

1- We retire to our room ,in privacy and to rest after salat "Alisha" until before "salat "Alfajr" this is one period.
2- we also retire to our room in privacy and to rest during the "Dhahirati (Siesta,noon,,,) that is another period.

So the subject here is an instruction to others ,if they need to talk/ask/see...us to knock/get our attention...before entering the room.

The subject is not naming the salats!!! So it does not mean there are only two salats in Qoran.

Just because GOD happens to mention the two salat periods in this verse that is talking about another subject, does not mean there are only two salats.

If GOD wanted to name all the salats, He ( No gender intended)would have made naming the salats the subject and named all of them.

Qoran confirms five periods for the daily salats. Fajr= Dhahirati- Kabla ghurubi shams- Maghrib and Isha. The traditional Muslims call the two day prayers Dhuhr and Asr .I have not found find these  two words describing any period of the day in Qoran personally.

GOD bless you.
Peace.

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This topic has been split from original thread found below:

Before or after resurrection 22:2
http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=1468

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Peace Hamzeh.

While I agree with the timeline,2,3,4,5 and 6 of brother Joseph s post, I believe the prophecy described in verse [54:1] was fulfilled on 21 July 1969 at 17: 54: 1 (Universal Time) (1: 54: 1 EDT) when the lunar module left the moon carrying 21  kilograms of lunar rocks .

{54:2} comes after , that has also been fulfilled.

The next prophecy will be the "smoke",then, 2, Gog and Magog,3,4,5,and 6 as brother Joseph stated.
 
GOD bless you .
Peace.

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Greetings Sardar.

I hope you find " GOD" with capital letters in all the contents. If there are mistakes I apologise in advance.

Thank you for letting me know.

May the Lord forgive me for making such a mistake.

GOD bless you.
Peace.

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Islamic Duties / Praying for the Deceased
« on: January 24, 2014, 06:55:46 PM »
Greetings brother Joseph.

Please allow me to make the following point, after I quote you from your above post:

I also have no qualms to pray for the deceased at any gravesite. However, I never ask the dead for anything as this in my opinion, is tantamount to shirk. One can only pray 'for' the dead and not 'through' the dead [1]. 

Is praying for the dead Qoranic?  Giving them a sending off at the grave may be!
We have to ask ourselves the following questions using Qoranic facts:
1- Have they already  had their interim and deserved reward/sanction according to GOD s judgement ?
2- Can we change the outcome( already decided by GOD) once one is dead?
3-What would praying for them change?

GOD has asked us to ponder Qoran and reason by what is taught in it.

However I agree with you we should not pray through the dead either.

GOD bless you.

Peace.





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Discussions / Are we at the beginning of the end of Darwinism?
« on: January 15, 2014, 08:39:34 PM »
Greetings all.

As Science is "evolving"; Evolution between species is dying. Science is about to discover the creator. The creator is showing more signs to this generation that He is the  " Intelligent designer" that created everything

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5sfHz3xyNc

Praise be to GOD Lord of the universe.

Peace to all




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