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Dear Brother Joseph

As-salamu Alaykum.

Reading your article `END OF PROPHETHOOD - CONTINUATION OF MESSENGERS?' it becomes clear that Prophets recieved scriptures and Messengers reaffirms it. But in the following verse (4:136) it seems that Messengers also got scriptures. Am I missing anything to understand this verse?

4:136 O ye who believe! Believe in Allah and His Messenger, and the scripture which He hath sent to His Messenger and the scripture which He sent to those before (him). Any who denieth Allah, His angels, His Books, His Messengers, and the Day of Judgment, hath gone far, far astray.

General Discussions / Just sharing a thought regarding end time
« on: October 13, 2021, 03:59:11 PM »
Salam .

I have a feeling regarding the verses where Allah speaks about the End time.
Many times it was said through prophet that, when they (the then Arabs) ask about the end time, tell them it is near. soon. etc.
How come, after 1400 years this nearness is not reached yet.

One answer of this question is regarding relativity. And it was clearly stated that His one day is equal to our thousand years.

But i take this response from one other viewpoint. When i am an Arab of 1400 years back (or even now) and I am told that the end time is near, i think technically its related to my death time. After my or anyone's death the Qiyamah is very near. Because when I will be resurrected I wouldn't  have any knowledge about the time gap. So end time is very near for everyone.
Just sharing the thought.

Best Wishes.

General Discussions / regarding Verse 3:93
« on: July 04, 2021, 05:59:41 PM »
Dear Brothers and Sisters

In verse 3:93 it is said that, Israel (pbuh) made some food unlawful (haram) for himself. Is it suitable for a prophet to make something lawful or unlawful? Notice that in 66:1 Allah discouraged Muhammad (pbuh) to do such things.

I must have missed something.

Dear Brother Joseph

As salamu alykum.

Recently many countries abandoned congressional prayer, even Jumua due to coronavirus issue. I think its reasonable. But  some clerics and their followers in my country oppose this restriction. They say, congressional prayers must be performed in mosque at any cost. The say Jumua prayer can not be performed in home. Even they dont care about hadith references regarding this issue (though they are hadith lovers).

Allah said, one must do at his best. But is their any other explicit or implicit verses in the Quran where Allah allows believers to stay at home in such time of dificulties rather than to go to mosque.

General Discussions / Why the pronoun He is for Allah?
« on: March 10, 2020, 03:26:16 PM »

Why the pronoun He is for Allah?

Dear Brothers

I don't know whether this is worthy to discuss. But as the question came in my mind i convinced myself saying that :
1. Its His dicission to choose the pronoun, we have nothing to do it.
2. Every language has its own rules with limitations. As The Quran was revealed in Arabic language, it just followed its rule. Did not create any new pronoun to denote His gender-free being.

Is there any other reason to use He for Allah?

General Discussions / meaning of baʿūḍatan
« on: August 08, 2019, 05:12:35 PM »

As Salamu Alaikum.

Would you please help me to understand the meaning of baʿūḍatan (2:26). In most of the translations it is described as mosquito/gnat. I Didn't find the word in Lane's or Badawi & Haleem's or Omar's dictionary.


General Discussions / Who was created first? Man or Woman?
« on: May 24, 2018, 02:53:36 PM »
Dear Forum Members

We generally think that God created the first human being as a man, not woman.
Now have a look in the following verse:

O mankind! Fear your Lord, Who created you from a single (Wahidatin) soul (Nafsin) and created from out of it (minha) her mate (Zawjaha) and spread from these two (minhuma), many men and women; and fear God, by Whom you demand one of another (your rights), and (to) the ties of relationship; surely God ever watches over you.

Here the word 'wahidatin' with a 'ta marbuta' indicates a female source. Anyway, we can avoid it as an irrational being. But the very next pronoun 'minha' clearly indicates that the first human being was a woman. And God created the second human as her mate.

I am not so well in arabic, Please correct me, if I am wrong.


General Discussions / About Greeting
« on: May 04, 2017, 07:14:12 PM »
Dear Brothers and Sisters

In my country some muslims greet others saying slamalaikum or slamalekum. I generally say only salam (sometimes in my mother tongue also which is 'shanti') or assalamu alaikum or salamun alaikum. But I also think saying slamalaikum or slamalekum is not wrong, because the meaning which one wants to convey actually matters. But recently some are saying that this is not correct. It (slamalaikum) changes the meaning of greeting. (Hence should be avoided.) Does it? Whats your opinion?

General Discussions / Is hell terminable for muslims?
« on: August 12, 2016, 06:05:02 PM »
Dear Brother Joseph Islam

Peace be upon you.

I really don't want to be engaged much with the issues regarding afterlife. But to satisfy one of my relative's query once again I just read your article titled IS THE PUNISHMENT OF HELL ETERNAL. Quite convincing. In the FINAL THOUGHTS you said:

"This is what this article attempts to explore and challenges the commonly held belief that the punishment of the fire of Hell is automatically eternal for anyone that enters it."

Surprisingly, many of our society believes that, if any muslim, who believed but have done wrong to themselves, will go to hell but after their due punishment they will enter paradise. And the punishment of hell eternal is only for kafir and mushriks. I do not know where this idea stem from? Somewhere else I have also read that after due punishment, with kafir and mushriks the hell will be vanished. Thus they (the writers) justify the eternity. Interesting.

Anyway, Is there any clue from the Quran that after due punishment muslims will enter paradise?

Best regards.

General Discussions / mistranslated verses/words
« on: August 02, 2016, 08:14:05 PM »
Dear Brother Joseph Islam
and Moderators


In this forum, along with other issues, many mistranslated verses/words  of the Quran were discussed. Is it possible to open a different section regarding only these matters. Then it would easier for us to take a look over such verses at a glance. This section can be named as Verses/Words of Quran or anything like that. All the headlines/entry would be titled as chapter and verse number.
I feel embarrassed/recoiled to raise this issue. A few months earlier, i proposed for a concordance/index and was agreed to take part in a concerted effort. But I failed to do that awfully.
Anyway, If possible, consider my request. If you think that would be an excess/ superfluity, then leave it.

Best regards.

Dear Brother Joseph Islam
Peace be upon you

After reading your articles related to Hajj it is almost clear that Abrahamic rites were reinstituted at the Kaaba for the followers of the final revelation. But as it is stated in 3:97 that one should make Hajj to the Firts House, and this directive was not revoked by any other verse ( like you, I also believe that no verse of the Quran is abrogated), then should we to perform Hajj to two different locations? If not, then how do you reconcile these two different directives as Pilgrimage place? Is there anything else i missed to understand regarding this issue?

The first House (of worship) appointed for men was that at Bakkah: Full of blessing and of guidance for all kinds of beings: In it are Signs Manifest; (for example), the Station of Abraham; whoever enters it attains security; Pilgrimage to is a duty men owe to God,- those who can afford the journey; but if any deny faith, God stands not in need of any of His creatures.

Best regards.

Munir Rana

Discussions / printing mistakes
« on: July 16, 2016, 06:36:44 PM »
Dear Moderators and Forum Members


There are some `printing mistakes' in Articles and other places of this website. Earlier i overlooked those as merely slip of keys. But I think if we, the members of the forum, notice these matters to Brother Joseph or Moderators, it will be easy to correct those. Its not so important, may be, but as i love this website very much, i want it to be indefectible/accurate.

Here I just noticed one.


Here the reference verse 007:044 should be 007:144


General Discussions / meaning of `bal fa'alahu'
« on: July 12, 2016, 03:35:52 PM »
Salam Brothers and Sisters

21:63 He said, `Rather, this - the largest of them- did it, so ask them, if they should (be able to) speak.

I know this issue is already discussed in this forum. (titled Abraham lied three times) . I am agreed to a great amount with Brother Joseph's view that `What prophet Abraham was doing was to manifest a particular truth.' There was a wider plan and an end goal. so telling a `lie' does not matter. Its o.k.

But I just want to know the meaning of two words here. Some say that  `bal fa'alahu' should be translated as `Surely, (some doer) did it.'  fa'alahu -third person masculin singular perfect verb. so it indicates that some other one did it. Is it ok?

sorry, if i bothered you with a superfluous question.

Discussions / Its A Wonderful Journey
« on: July 11, 2016, 07:27:37 PM »
Its A Wonderful Journey

A few years back through Facebook I got in touch with Edip Yuksel and his reformist translation of Quran. Initially I was moved. But some of his arrogant approach and specially excluding 2 verses to fit 19 theory, i felt disturbed. But I kept continue to the end of the translation. In between I became to know about this site and Brother Joseph Islam. At first I e-mailed some questions and got answers immediately. He offered to join his forum. I entered and read the Articles, Q/A sections, his FB posts etc. It was amazing. I felt like Alice in wonderland. Before then I had some doubt about traditional approach to Islam. And I was confused about what to do. But this time I just got converted overnight, like the magicians of Pharao. Now I try to read Quran regularly to understand its meaning. Through me some of my relatives and freinds became familiar with the insightful articles of this site. Some became his FB freinds. Alhamdulillah, they also abandoned previous hadith based practices, and now they also try to follow only Quran. They are all joyful to have this connection and assistance. Though some of my relatives and freinds also rejected this approach, but we are in hope that in near future they also will be convinced, In Sha Allah.

Dear Joseph Abraham Islam, My Brother in peace, you will never know how much we are indebted to you for your support to bring us nearer to Quran. Please accept my salute and a warm deep hug to you. May Allah reward you here and hereafter.

And please pray for me and for my family and freinds. Pray specially, because, even knowing the truth sometimes I loose control over myself in various matter, commit something which i should not. I try to prevent and fail sometimes. And i feel deeply sorry. And now I understand, Knowing is not everything. Knowledge is power. But To be a good man in action is much better than to be a knowledgeble person. I am fighting to be so. please pray for me so that i can continue this wonderful journey to the end fruitfully.

Best Regards.

God bless you dear brother.

General Discussions / regarding 17:70
« on: July 01, 2016, 07:47:29 PM »
Salam to All

It is highly publicized that human are special and we feel proud to see ourselves as the best of the creation (ashraful makhlukat). But the following verse makes me confused.


We have honoured the sons of Adam; provided them with transport on land and sea; given them for sustenance things good and pure; and conferred on them special favours, above a great part of our creation.

It says clearly that we, the human, are preferred above many other creatures, but not above all.

What do you think?

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