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General Discussions / is quran crystal clear?
« on: March 30, 2016, 04:40:16 PM »
the following is an excerpt from one of the answers in the forum:
"The Quran claims to be a fully detailed explanation (Arabic: fussilat 41:3; 11:1), the perfect guidance (Arabic: hudan 2:2), a clear convincing proof (Arabic: burhan (4:174), the ultimate scale (Arabic: mizan 42.17; 57:25), the discernment between truth and falsehood (Arabic: Furqan 25:1, 2:53), an evidence absolutely clear (Arabic: bayyina 20:133) and a clear explanation of all matters (Arabic: tibiana lekulli shayin 16:89)."
1-Can anybody without any prejudice or bias or prejudgement claim fully that Quran is clear? in what concept? Does it need any mediator? Knowing the masses of people which quran takes as its addressee.
2-Do we need anyone to show that it is clear? or its itself show how clear it is when one human being starts to read it?
3-If it is too clear and detailed and fully explained things even it says its explaining revelations (when God sends revelation He also sends other revelation to explain the ones sent before) then why these many people starting very close friends of prophet Muhammad peace unto him divided into sects so easily with ideas impossible to reconcile?
4-is it clear to average person or to scholars?
5-is quran time and space bound? does quran have a historical frame? If so knowing historical documents which dont have the priviledge of god protected sign or promise on them needs to be studied which makes it logical also to know and to study hadis along with historical documents to understand what the context of quran is. Because in the end we need to treat hadis as historical documents. for example how would you know who is zayd in quran which prophet is instructed to marry his ex-wife after he divorce it.
6-if quran is time and space bound does it mean that we are not the real audience it talked directly? Or the rules and sanctions it put also time and space bound? Like cutting hands or whipping are really a strict way for punishing i mean should we also preserve the physical shape and way of the punishing or the core of idea that these are actions requires punishment and at the time of prophet in arabs it is the way they are dealt with criminals and it is what the time and space allowed. So is quran and revelation also shaped by to whom its audience is? then does it make quran universal or local? can we divide quran into sections which are universal and which are historical?
"The Quran claims to be a fully detailed explanation (Arabic: fussilat 41:3; 11:1), the perfect guidance (Arabic: hudan 2:2), a clear convincing proof (Arabic: burhan (4:174), the ultimate scale (Arabic: mizan 42.17; 57:25), the discernment between truth and falsehood (Arabic: Furqan 25:1, 2:53), an evidence absolutely clear (Arabic: bayyina 20:133) and a clear explanation of all matters (Arabic: tibiana lekulli shayin 16:89)."
1-Can anybody without any prejudice or bias or prejudgement claim fully that Quran is clear? in what concept? Does it need any mediator? Knowing the masses of people which quran takes as its addressee.
2-Do we need anyone to show that it is clear? or its itself show how clear it is when one human being starts to read it?
3-If it is too clear and detailed and fully explained things even it says its explaining revelations (when God sends revelation He also sends other revelation to explain the ones sent before) then why these many people starting very close friends of prophet Muhammad peace unto him divided into sects so easily with ideas impossible to reconcile?
4-is it clear to average person or to scholars?
5-is quran time and space bound? does quran have a historical frame? If so knowing historical documents which dont have the priviledge of god protected sign or promise on them needs to be studied which makes it logical also to know and to study hadis along with historical documents to understand what the context of quran is. Because in the end we need to treat hadis as historical documents. for example how would you know who is zayd in quran which prophet is instructed to marry his ex-wife after he divorce it.
6-if quran is time and space bound does it mean that we are not the real audience it talked directly? Or the rules and sanctions it put also time and space bound? Like cutting hands or whipping are really a strict way for punishing i mean should we also preserve the physical shape and way of the punishing or the core of idea that these are actions requires punishment and at the time of prophet in arabs it is the way they are dealt with criminals and it is what the time and space allowed. So is quran and revelation also shaped by to whom its audience is? then does it make quran universal or local? can we divide quran into sections which are universal and which are historical?