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Islamic Duties / Re: Quranic way of praying? Is it reading the Quran? 17:78?

« on: September 14, 2019, 07:45:20 PM »

So if sujood and rukuh don't mean the physical act of  bowing or prostrating, which arabic words do?

The Christians do kneel and bow plus the traditional Jewish prayer is very similar to the way the Muslim do.


The physical act of praying seems to bother so many quranists that they are changing the meaning of keys words and what we have in it's place doesn't 'fit' very well in my opinion.

So standing up in front of your Creator and physically bowing to Him to show your submission is beneath you?

There is not such a thing in the Bible as a daily prayer which evolves physical bowing and kneeling. You should read the Bible from cover to cover.

We are actually returning to the original meaning of the words and the Quran. Go do a word for word study yourself.. you will find out roekoeh and soejoed mean to yield and submit.

God asked the Angels to submit to Adam. Soejoed is used here. Or do you think God asked the Angels to fall down on their foreheads to Adam, and do you think the Angels were following the writings of bukhari & co?
There is not even such a thing as falling down on your forehead in the Quran, there is only the falling down on their chins, which symbolizes how they reject their ego and pride and submit to the Truth.
Etc.

We yield and submit to what God told us. Bowing and kneeling is a pagan thing.

Administrator Joseph A Islam already expressed the reason behind the prostration of angles before Adam(pbuh). Please read,

.................... The ‘Malaika’ (angels) enquired as to why God was to create a vicegerent (Khalifa) on the Earth that would create mischief and cause much bloodshed (2:30). God explained this through a process of making the truth absolutely clear to them. He presented evidence of His wisdom by using Adam (pbuh) as an example and the knowledge that He taught him (2:31 and 2:33). The 'Malaika' (angels) accepted the argument and proclaimed God's perfection in knowledge and wisdom (2:32)

After this, the order to prostate was given which the 'Malaika' (angels) accepted (2:34)

It was only after the truth was first manifested by God and after which the 'Malaika' had no reason to deny it, they accepted that only God knew best and prostrated upon order. It is interesting to note that God did not instruct the 'Malaika' to prostrate without 'first' making the truth absolutely clear to them as to what He was about to do and to demonstrate the reason why..............

See this article for more info. http://quransmessage.com/articles/understanding%20kufr%20FM3.htm

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Islamic Duties / Re: Quranic way of praying? Is it reading the Quran? 17:78?

« on: September 14, 2019, 07:09:45 PM »

peace Sstikstof,

s1c4r1us says "i believe 17:78 has the detail of what prayer is, to read the Quran. It's that simple. It says the Quran at dawn is witnessed, so when we pray, we read the Quran."

In your reply to their post, you seem to cite 20:14 as strong evidence for "salat=prayer" yet the evidence you bring is not strong at all. More accurately, what you present is simply one side of the story (the story you agree with aka confirmation bias).

Anyone can look up the roots you mentioned and see they have a much wider meaning than the ones you presented. We can also check the usage in Quran.

Further, it is rather obvious that reading Quran involves remembering God, thus fulfilling "for my remembrance" mentioned in 20:14. And if there was any doubt, see:

20:113 And it was such that We sent it down an Arabic revelation, and We cited in it the warnings, perhaps they will become aware or it will cause for them a remembrance*

*exact same word as used in 20:14.


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For those wishing to study any topic in Quran I recommend trying, as best one can, not to read with pre-conceived notions / bias, and apply a robust/systematic approach.

Peace be upon you old friend wakas
Firstly, What s1c4r1us wanted to express as best as i am observing, is that reading of Quran is equivalent to prayer / salat = follow closely of something (as root definition) and bowing, standing & prostrating is not necessary. Because this bowing and prostrating means (according to him) to simply yield and submit which voids any specific or certain physical acts. Fact is that, reading Quran at dawn and establishing prayer at the decline of the sun are two separate entities, not equivalent. Ofcourse we recite some verses of Quran during the prayer, but this is another topic and not related to this issue.

Verse 20:14 is 'one of' strong evidences that salat/prayer relates to a physical act or practice. If this is a weak reference then with respect to this verse what does the 'worship' mean that GOD wants to acknowledge us.

Both the prayer and reading of Quran fulfill the requirement of 'remembrance of GOD'. But this was not my topic and I have never conversed any related of this.

Please be notified that, Pre-convinced notion sometimes helps vastly to re-arrange or solve the alleged and tangled theology. Any critical arguments or opposed logic can be captured & refined into  actual manner if you have any pre-convinced notions. In this case, it has to become truthful in intention and in line with normal human nature.
Please note too, Even Prophet Muhammad had pre-convinced notion which was 'millat-e-ibrahim'.

At the end of the day, I respect your assiduous. Every steps of our lives we do mistake including me. Pardon is much due if something of mine do hurt your theology. We all are servant of Allah the Almighty.

 

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Islamic Duties / Re: Quranic way of praying? Is it reading the Quran? 17:78?

« on: September 14, 2019, 11:13:38 AM »

peace,

As a starting point it is important to have an accurate translation of the verses: [source]

Establish the salat at the setting of the sun to the darkness of the night; and the reading (of) dawn; indeed, the reading (of) dawn is witnessed. [17:78]
And from the night so remain awake with it additionally for yourself, perhaps your Lord will raise you (to) a status praiseworthy. [17:79]

The "with it" (Arabic: bi hi) refers to a preceding masculine noun, and thus can ONLY refer to "reading" (Arabic: quran). Note that "salat" is a feminine noun. Thus, the idea of "the tahajjud prayer" is not possible unless one considers it as a reading (also see 73:20).

"tahajjud prayer"?

I am like 6 years religious and i stopped 3 years ago with praying like the sunnis.

Like i said, i believe 17:78 has the detail of what prayer is, to read the Quran. It's that simple. It says the Quran at dawn is witnessed, so when we pray, we read the Quran.

I don't even bow and kneel like the sectarians, i learned that soejdoed and roekoeh mean to submit and yield to the Message of God when reading the Quran. The Quran teaches that Mary used to perform the sjoedjoed and roekoeh, the Gospel doesn't teach anything at all about a prayer that looks like that of the sectarian sunnis/shia. I am 100% sure that soedjoed and roekoeh mean to submit and yield to Gods Message when reading Them.
By the way i am not talking out of my neck here, the Arabic language supports this understanding and a word for word study on these words will confirm it.

Anyways, i wish you the best. That's my understanding.

Peace be upon you,
By reading your recent posts and logic, I am 100% certain that you are biggest fan of the most Controversial scholar 'Joseph Yaseen' who runs Quran-centric Channel on youtube. Who teaches a lot of un-realistic / illogical / alien arabic words and vocabularies based on root word only without the usage of any grammar. Who through his critical explanation powers, deviated so many persons and students & made them to stop praying physically which includes standing, bowing and prostrating. It is a matter of fact that, standing, bowing & prostrating are the root of all compulsory activities commanded by the Quran. So, because of one critical scholar with respect to search for daily life flexibility, a lot of people abandoning these as was done by the Children of Israel decades ago.

If Salat / Prayer does not exist, this verse provides powerful definition of such worship. After reading this verse normally with common arabic rendition, please re-think with common sense and ask yourself about what actually does it mean?
Quran 20:14,
"Indeed, I am Allah. There is no deity except Me, so worship Me and establish prayer for My remembrance."
Please be notified that, arabic 'fa-uʿ'bud'nī' came from root word ع ب د . In 2nd person masculine singular imperative verb form, it means 'to worship' & well attested to this meaning.
Definition of worship: The feeling or expression of reverence and adoration for a deity.
Similarly arabic root س ج د in 2nd person masculine plural imperative verb form goes as 'us'judū', which means to prostrate & well attested to this meaning.
Similar environment goes with rakʿah too.

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Islamic Duties / Re: Best explanation i saw about salaat, ever.

« on: April 07, 2019, 11:15:33 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4APNPrfRORQ

Some verses are presented for your acknowledgements,

"Indeed, I am Allah. There is no deity except Me, so worship Me and establish prayer for My remembrance." Quran 20:14
In this verse, the word "fa-uʿ'bud'nī" comes from triliteral root ʿayn bā dāl (ع ب د), which means 'to worship' in verb form.

"Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are firm against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating, seeking bounty from Allah and [His] pleasure. Their mark is on their faces from the trace of prostration. That is their similitude in the Torah. And their similitude in the Injeel, is like a seed (which) sends forth its shoot then strengthens it, then it becomes thick and it stands upon its stem delighting the sowers - that He (may) enrage by them the disbelievers. Allah has promised those who believe and do righteous deeds among them forgiveness and a great reward." Quran 48:29.

Please be advised that, a root meaning must never be considered devoid of context. Words have meanings in certain contexts.

See this topic for more discussions, http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=90.0.

The brother knows Arabic. I am still learning it.

I never heard a better explanation from the Quran about bowing and prostrating. In Arabic he said those words mean to yield and submit. 

He explained it so well in Arabic.

Instead of bowing and prostrating i am now yielding and submitting. I think the translations are off here.

Please be notified that I already have studied on 'the brother' from video years ago. For your better understanding with ease and simple, I am replying you simply.

'The brother' from video uses the root Arabic word 'directly' for finding any sort of renditions or meanings which is called 'root definition'. In general, he does not use any grammar, he does not use any 'prefix or suffix' & context based meanings. His dictionary does not have any vocabulary except root word in a language. As a result, alien or baseless interpretation has been occurred. But that is a wrong step for gaining proper knowledge of a language. Every language have vocabularies, grammar, context based meanings or renditions and root word. For example, English word 'March' refers to a dedicated month of a year, it can also mean 'walk in a military manner with a regular measured tread' in verb form & also it can mean to 'an act or instance of marching' as noun & also it can mean to 'the steady and inevitable development or progress of something' as noun, but its origin or root word is same, which is, 'marche+mark (Germanic)'. Similar theme also goes with Quranic texts as well as Arabic language. Hope that clarifies.

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Islamic Duties / Re: Best explanation i saw about salaat, ever.

« on: April 06, 2019, 08:28:35 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4APNPrfRORQ

Some verses are presented for your acknowledgements,

"Indeed, I am Allah. There is no deity except Me, so worship Me and establish prayer for My remembrance." Quran 20:14
In this verse, the word "fa-uʿ'bud'nī" comes from triliteral root ʿayn bā dāl (ع ب د), which means 'to worship' in verb form.

"Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are firm against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating, seeking bounty from Allah and [His] pleasure. Their mark is on their faces from the trace of prostration. That is their similitude in the Torah. And their similitude in the Injeel, is like a seed (which) sends forth its shoot then strengthens it, then it becomes thick and it stands upon its stem delighting the sowers - that He (may) enrage by them the disbelievers. Allah has promised those who believe and do righteous deeds among them forgiveness and a great reward." Quran 48:29.

Please be advised that, a root meaning must never be considered devoid of context. Words have meanings in certain contexts.

See this topic for more discussions, http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=90.0.

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General Discussions / Re: Plastic Surgery

« on: April 06, 2019, 06:34:45 AM »

If you burn an innocent person intentionally,...

peace,
Please don’t use/ try to avoid such kind of unhuman/hard-hearted examples.

If you burn an innocent person intentionally, his body structure will be defaced. That does not mean his deeds result him to face this.

GOD has given us free will to lead our lives as we wish, but the outcome of each of our actions is governed by the will of GOD - THE JUST, THE MERCIFUL. If God does not will for something to take place, it will not happen no matter how hard we try. And if He wills for something to occur, it will transpire no matter what we do to stop it.


If X harm Y intentionally/unintentionally, it happens because GOD -THE JUST, THE MERCIFUL letting X to do so, and Y deserves it.
But if Y do not deserves it/is innocent, then GOD -THE JUST, THE MERCIFUL will NEVER let X to do it.
Even if Y deserves it /is a sinner, X will definitely get punished by GOD for this evil deed (if he did it without cause /valid reason).

“...And if it were not for God defending the people against themselves (some of them with some), then the earth would have long been corrupted; but God has bestowed grace upon the worlds.” [2:251]


“...And your Lord is not at all unjust to His servants.” [41:46]

Do you think GOD is JUST only in the hereafter? Not in this world?

IS GOD NOT THE MOST JUDICIOUS OF THE JUDGES? [95:8]

 

Please note that, verse 42:30 is talking about facing any sort of misfortune/ trouble / difficulties that could be the result of one's mis-deeds in earthly environment. Troubles/Misfortunes like Loss of money, rejection from societies, capital punishments etc., but not Injuries in WAR, any accidental damage (Fallen from Horse/ from tree or drawn in river), Sickness or Loss of nearest one etc.

This is what an example how one can modify Qur’anic interpretation according to his own desires!

According to you, sicknesses, injuries in war, accidental damages etc. will not come under the misfortune mentioned in 42:30??? (also see 30:36, 30:41, 5:49, 4:79 etc.)
Can you provide a valid reason for this categorization?

Is GOD not seeing/knowing such ‘accidental’ things? (It is ‘accidental’ only in human view, but for GOD, everything is by HIS wills).
And is HE not able to save these people from such accidental things if they are innocents?

Please answer my few Questions,
1. If a child dies, is this because of the child's or someone's sin?
2. Earth Quake caught millions of lives to death. Is this because GOD's wrath fallen upon every each one of them?
3. During the performance of Hajj, many haji's die because of weakness or foot pressures or befall of constructive materials. Is this because of their early life sins?
4. What is your interpretation of this Quranic verse, "The repentance accepted by Allah is only for those who do wrong in ignorance and then repent soon after. It is those to whom Allah will turn in forgiveness, and Allah is ever Knowing and Wise. But repentance is not [accepted] of those who [continue to] do evil deeds up until, when death comes to one of them, he says, "Indeed, I have repented now," or of those who die while they are disbelievers. For them We have prepared a painful punishment." Quran 4:17-18.
5. If you do theft, commit crime or murder someone, is not the expected capital punishment a misfortune for you? Please note, Arabic 'musibat' comes from root word ص و ب which means 'disaster/trouble/catastrophe' & according to context of 42:30, this suits well.

Quite similar question has already been asked to this thread & already been replied. Check here >> http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=2661.0

I think this video will help you about how to grasp & ponder the Quranic messages & acknowledge the primary theme. Check here >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWXRf3b4utI. Please consider the referred video only, not the channel or other videos.

I have observed with humble that you guys are at the end of the day asking similar questions by twisting contextual relevant questions. I suspect that either you are in 'overthinking condition' or trying to confuse the 'readers' as well as the 'helpers'. Consider this a last reply of me in this thread.

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General Discussions / Re: Plastic Surgery

« on: March 31, 2019, 07:40:50 AM »

peace Joseph Islam and Sstikstof,

In addition to the verse quoted (4:118-119) also see verse 30:30

"So set your face to the system of monotheism (as) a submitter /Unifier of God/haneefan. God's nature/manner which He created/originated the people on it, (there is) no replacement/substitution to God's creation. Such is the pure system, but most of the people do not know."

Plastic Surgery in my opinion, does not violate any Quranic verse if and only if it is done for the purpose of reformation of parts of human body when distorted by any from of accidents.

but why accidents?

[42:30] "And what struck/hit you from a misfortune /disaster so (it is) because (of) what your hands gathered/acquired, and He forgives/pardons on much."

Did you ever think of such cases in prophet's time? e.g. accidents/ injuries in the war?

GOD can replace it if the person deserves it without the need of any surgery!

[96:6] Alas, that truly the human/mankind tyrannizes/exceeds the limit.
[96:7] That he considers him(self), he enriched/sufficed (self-sufficient).

Peace,
The Correct translation of Verse 30:30,
"So set your face to the religion upright. Nature made by Allah upon which He has created mankind on it. No change should there be in the creation of Allah....."
The verse is trying to acknowledge us that every creation of GOD is unique & most valuable & perfectly crafted. Any sort of artificial change could affect the perfect synchronization of such nature. But if I am not mistaken you are trying to express through the translation that, any sort of change/deface on GOD's creation is against the Quranic theme. Please be notified that 'accident' word was just one of the examples that may deface or change the creation of GOD. There are other incidents which deface or substitute the GOD's creation. If you burn an innocent person intentionally, his body structure will be defaced. That does not mean his deeds result him to face this. So, in order to make recovery, plastic surgery is needed as the world is much developed now to provide such aid. Now, if you claim that this surgery is just for fashion or for the purpose of defacing the perfect creation of GOD, your claim would be illogical.
 
Please note that, verse 42:30 is talking about facing any sort of misfortune/ trouble / difficulties that could be the result of one's mis-deeds in earthly environment. Troubles/Misfortunes like Loss of money, rejection from societies, capital punishments etc., but not Injuries in WAR, any accidental damage (Fallen from Horse/ from tree or drawn in river), Sickness or Loss of nearest one etc.

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General Discussions / Re: To Whom It May Concern

« on: March 21, 2019, 11:38:00 AM »

peace Sstikstof,

Doctors are creation of GOD as well as the medicines.

‘Devil’ is also a creation of GOD!

Yes we can be healed naturally too, but medicine is our innovative output with GOD provided elements onto earth.

Alcohol with multiple distillations and weed extracts in different forms are also some innovative products with GOD provided elements onto earth!

So ultimately GOD is healing us by providing doctors and medicines.

GOD doesn’t need the help of doctors to heal His creation!


For most of the people GOD is for performing Swalat, reading the Qur’an etc. etc. but in real life they have their own ways, even though they claim/believe that God is capable of doing anything, Qur’an has explanation for everything etc.


See what the Qur’an says,

"And what struck/hit you from a misfortune /disaster so (it is) because (of) what your hands gathered/acquired, and He forgives/pardons on much." [42:30]

So illnesses come because of the SINS. Will the doctor be able to cure it properly?


"AND IF I AM SICK/DISEASED, IT IS HE WHO CURES ME.” [26:80]

And disease will disappear when God wills/after completion of the punishment. (Since God will not let a self to suffer more than what it deserves e.g. 2:286)
Then what is the point of going to the doctor? It is SHIRK in my understanding! (Seeking help from the doctor when God is not helping!)
And the doctors usually prescribe some chemicals(which influences neuro-hormonal systems / body’s defence mechanism) to suppress the symptoms i.e. finding alternative ways! - They are treating the disease, not curing.
And when God punishes their patients with new new diseases these doctors and their professors get confused, not able to even treat as they used to do in normal cases.

So repentance is the effective medicine. (Root cause treatment)
And honey may come after that.
“...from its bellies emerges a drink that has different colours, in it is a cure/healing for the people; in that is an evidence to a nation thinking.” [16:69]

And all the knowledge /guidance is from the Qur’an,
...say: “FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE, it is a guide and healing. As for those who disbelieve, there is deafness in their ears, and they are blind to it. [41:44]

So in my view, using / suggesting any other medicine is,
Ignoring God’s words (The Creator) and seeking alternative ways which are found by people / scientists/ doctors (just creatures).

[96:6] Alas, that truly the human/mankind tyrannizes/exceeds the limit.
[96:7] That he considers him(self), he enriched/sufficed (self-sufficient).

In short,
Physical /mental fitness is controlled by Immune system /Hormonal-neurotransmitter-chemical equilibrium and which is influenced by Attitude / Conscientiousness / righteousness


Do you know any doctor who suggests /advises his patients to REPENT and to take HONEY AS THE MEDICINE?

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There are so many verses in the Qur’an which mentions the term for ill persons (M-R-D) e.g. [2:184, 2:196, 4:43, 4:102, 5:6, 9:91, 24:61, 48:17, 73:20]
But nowhere Qur’an mentions the term for physician/doctor!


 

GOD is ofcourse capable of doing anything. This is why someone is giving me the job.

Qur’an gives a clear example of the prophet Yusuf (Surah No. 12) where, job came to him when he was in prison!
Why Qur’an shares such stories with us? Just for information?

Another verse,
... and whoever reverences (fears and obeys) God, He makes/puts for him a way out/exit. And He provides for him from where/when he never expected. Anyone who puts his trust in God, then He suffices him. The commands of God will be done. God has decreed for everything a measure.” [65:2-3]

...and God is best of the providers.” [62:11]

Peace,
In medical science there are 3 types of mental conditions known to worldwide. In summery,

First, When you think too much - Over thinking
Second, When you think normally - Normal thinking
Third, When you have no knowledge but you think relative - Fantasy thinking.

By observing your post, I personally suspect that you are thinking in first type condition. So, I request to see my replies with humble and in normal sense.

Yes. Devil is also creation of GOD. I did not point that all creations of GOD has to be in positive manner.

Quran said in verse [2:219], "They ask you about wine and gambling. Say, "In them is great sin and [yet, some] benefit for people. But their sin is greater than their benefit." And they ask you what they should spend. Say, "The excess [beyond needs]." Thus Allah makes clear to you the verses [of revelation] that you might give thought."
In my interpretation, this verse is telling with phrase that, alcohol usage is allowed only when it is helpful or beneficiary for a person specifically in medical conditions as well as outside activities. But, it is not allowed when consumed normally or with no beneficiary goal included, as it contains intoxicant (Arabic: Khimar) which covers the normal thinking of a healthy person.
So, if alcohol itself is modified by innovators to extract any sort of aid for any disease, then It is the blessing of GOD who provided alcohol on earth. Even a normal table is harmful if you throw it to someone. Then, will you consider that as GOD fallen wrath on someone? No! Blame goes entirely on you & that someone is not getting any punishment for his previous 'SIN', rather he is a victim.


Whole universe including the earth and its every materials/elements are created by GOD. Earth specifically is a room for trial managed by GOD. A trial that I hope you are familiar with dedicated for hereafter. For the divine purpose of trial, A system is created where believers and non-believers can move freely and live the life as their own free-will and a guideline was placed into that system. This system protocol was modified by GOD and doctors as well as others are fallen into this system.

Your 'illnesses come because of the SINS' theory is not true based on the upper arguments. Yes, sometimes doctors do fail to heal the patients, but that is not because of one's 'SIN'. If someone claims that a person's 'accident' is made by GOD because of his sins, then his knowledge about earthly & divine facts would be tremendously dubious.
I have personally seen many alien usage of Quranic verses, for e.g: Code 9, Compulsory prayer code hidden in verse 1:1 to 1:7, 09/11 code from verses, hidden messages from verses, Bird prayer theory, 3 Salat theory etc. Truth is, nothing is fitted with the Quranic theme. You have to let the Quran speak. If you try to find something special beyond the context while reading of Quran, you will surely be failed and erroneous thoughts will arise. Quran said, "And indeed, We have eased the Qur'an in your tongue that they might be reminded." [44:58]. So, Quran was revealed in form of how we speak, how we think and how we interact, which is easy in our tongue. Hope you will understand. Consider this reply to you as my last respond to this thread.   

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General Discussions / Judgements

« on: March 21, 2019, 09:06:02 AM »

There are only two sects in whole world. One is good ideology and another one is bad ideology. No people are bad in this world or born evil. Its the situations or circumstances that drive them to be like that. It is time to learn not to hate any muslim, jews, Christians, blacks, white, brown, any speech, thought, voices, sects, articles, scriptures, notes etc. except the ideology what violates any Quranic messages. Ofcourse, at the end of the day, the actor/the culprit of violence or representator of such violated ideology needed to be punished as well so that better future can be assured. Remember, an evil can be anyone from your family, neighbor, state or country including you. Similarly, A good person can be anyone from your family, neighbor, state or country. Even an atheist/non-believer/fire-worshipper can be a good person, it is just their ideology which is to hate only in such scenario.

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General Discussions / Re: "Muhammad was not from Mecca" by Sam Garrans

« on: March 14, 2019, 08:27:31 AM »

No.

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General Discussions / Re: To Whom It May Concern

« on: March 14, 2019, 08:16:46 AM »

Peace,

Do you really believe in GOD?

Then why you go to the doctor when you are ill? While GOD can heal all your illnesses?
Why you ask someone for a job? While GOD is capable of doing everything?

And you say,
You alone we worship and You alone we seek for help. [1:5]

Qur’an says,

Did the people think that they be left that they say: "We believed." And they are not being tested? [29:2]
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Do you order the people with the righteousness and you forget yourselves, while you are reciting the Book? Do you not comprehend? [2:44]
And seek help through patience and through the prayers. And that it truly is a great/burden except on the humble. [2:45]
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And most of them will not believe in God except while setting up partners. [12:106]
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...Anyone who puts his trust in God, then He suffices him. The commands of God will be done. God has decreed for everything a measure. [65:3]

Peace and best wishes

Peace,

Yes I believe in GOD.

Doctors are creation of GOD as well as the medicines. Yes we can be healed naturally too, but medicine is our innovative output with GOD provided elements onto earth. So ultimately GOD is healing us by providing doctors and medicines.
 
GOD is ofcourse capable of doing anything. This is why someone is giving me the job.

That is why I say,
You alone we worship and You alone we seek for help. [1:5]

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General Discussions / Re: Plastic Surgery

« on: March 14, 2019, 07:55:58 AM »

Haram is a very strong word and one must be careful not to pronounce something 'haram' if it is not explicitly mentioned or strongly implied by the Quranic verses by strong analytical deduction.

Plastic Surgery in my opinion, does not violate any Quranic verse if and only if it is done for the purpose of reformation of parts of human body when distorted by any from of accidents.
It is somehow tantamount to a transgression, if done for passion or changing lifestyles or fashion as it defaces the creation of GOD "intentionally", which would arguably put it at tension with verses 4:118-119.

004:118-119 (Part)
"...and he said "Most certainly I will take of your servants an appointed portion: I will surely mislead them, and I will create in them false desires; I will order them to slit the ears of cattle and to deface the creation of God..."

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General Discussions / Re: "Muhammad was not from Mecca" by Sam Garrans

« on: March 14, 2019, 07:20:57 AM »

Good reply w3bcrowf3r

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Women / Re: Husband can beat ( not severe ) his wife

« on: September 17, 2018, 07:25:37 AM »

Please be notified that if the meaning "shun / turn away from" is chosen it will result in issues. The following is a brief comparison to the "cite them" view:



"shun / turn away from"
This alleged usage in 4:34 occurs in 43:5 with the preposition "Aan", thus making Quran seems inconsistent IF it did mean that in 4:34
No identical example of this DRB usage in Quran
No explanation of how the authority are notified
Commands husband to shun / turn away from then promotes reconciliation in next verse, mixed message
It is unclear to what extent one shuns, how they can do so without being unjust etc
No supporting marital example in Quran
Impractical/illogical result when inserted into 4:128-130 and somehow requires iAAradan to be a positive thing and potentially makes Drb/3rD similar


"cite them" Quran434.com
Several identical examples of this DRB usage in Quran, including when humans are the direct object as in 4:34
Explains how the authority is notified by 4:35, and provides perfect logical/sequential coherence
No mixed message
DRB use is clear and simple to implement practically
58:1-4 provides perfect coherence in terms of marital example
When inserted into 4:128-130 provides a complementary practical and coherent solution

Firstly, 'Cite' as English is commonly defined as "to mention something as proof for a theory or as a reason why something has happened", which already and arguably falls under the previous injunction as '2nd person masculine plural imperative verb - faʿiẓūhunna' in verse 4:34. And also 'cite' (as you have mentioned) is appeared as unnecessary in context after the injunction "forsake the bed", as overall injunctions in 4:34 point to rapidly growing attempts.
Secondly, there is sentence "wa if you fear..." in between the verse 4:34 & 4:35, after which reconciliation matter has been dragged into consideration.
Thirdly, There are numerous verses in Quran giving proper detailed guidance on how to handle marriage bonds. Example is unnecessary in common sense. Will you demand example of making wudu (verse 5:6) from Quran?
Fourthly, A root word could have many renditions or meaning based on the context, which is primary & significant nature of any language. Why would you cut a whole tree just because of a dying leaf?

Quran 19:97,
"So We have only made it easy in your tongue that you may give good news thereby to those who guard (against evil) and warn thereby a vehemently contentious people."
So why are you making things complicated? Why can't you think or ponder with ease?

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Women / Re: Husband can beat ( not severe ) his wife

« on: August 13, 2018, 08:21:48 AM »

Please be notified that, 'Idribo hunna' in Surah Nisa (4.34) can mean to 'shun - turn away from' (not necessarily to beat) and does not necessarily require a preposition 'an' for this meaning to be operative. For more justifications & renditions, see here, http://quransmessage.com/articles/a%20deeper%20look%20at%20the%20word%20dharaba%20FM3.htm