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General Discussions / Re: 36:41 - Are we all from the people of the Ark?
« on: April 13, 2017, 02:15:30 PM »
And we domesticated dogs 33 thousands years ago
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General Discussions / Re: 36:41 - Are we all from the people of the Ark?
« on: April 13, 2017, 12:10:38 PM »
But maybe the first one is correct and that we didn't all come from noah maybe 69:11 was meaning only the Arabs because that would make sense because if 17:3 is saying the children of israily came from noahs ark it would make sense the Arabs came from noahs ark because the Arabs and children of israily came from abraham maybe noahs populated most of the middle east and egypt nut not Asia etc but the verse 69:11 says (you) witch makes it sound like to all of us abd 69:12 says (a reminder and sign to you) so this makes it sound like we all came from the ark whitch makes stuff difficult
But all I know for certain is that humans have been here at least 30 thousand bc at least so this is the problem and where we go from jazzakkallah because humans no way could off come shorter than 25 thousand bc because of the village in amarica and gobkie temple and pottery and bread
But all I know for certain is that humans have been here at least 30 thousand bc at least so this is the problem and where we go from jazzakkallah because humans no way could off come shorter than 25 thousand bc because of the village in amarica and gobkie temple and pottery and bread
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General Discussions / Re: 36:41 - Are we all from the people of the Ark?
« on: April 13, 2017, 12:00:50 PM »
Ok thanks well there has too be at least five timeliness and one of them has to be correct
1. First came adam then there was a giant gap then came noah then ad then thamud
2. First came adam then noah then there was giant gap then came ad then thamud
3. First came adam then noah then ad then a giant gap then thamud
4. First came adam then noah then ad then thamud then a giant gap then abraham
5. First came adam then noah then ad then thamud then abraham that there was no giant gap
But it defferlty can't be 5. Because it has been proven that there was a large village in amarica 14000 bc and humans making pottery 20 thousand bc in China so there had to be humans on earth at least 30 thousand bc because if 5. Was correct that would mean adam and noah came only in the last 10 thousand years so adam or noah had to come at least 30 thousand bc
My favourite thery was the first one because noah flood probably happened around the end off the ice age and also science is saying we bred with the neanderthals whitch would mean neanderthals are humans so that would mean the common ancester came 700 thousand bc but the problem was with 69:11 whitch makes it sound like we all come from noah so if yes
Would mean noah came between 30 thousand bc to 700 thousand bc but that makes stuff difficult with ad and thamud because like we said the Arabs could see there dwellings and I can't see that there dwellings could off survive from 30 thousand bc to when the prophet came so ad and thamud had to come within the last 10 thousand years and like I was saying above 7:69 makes it sound like ad was close with noah within a 5 thousand years gap so if ad came within the last 10 thousand years that would mean ad came no further than 10 thousand bc so noah would of come about 5 thousand years before that so that would make noah about 15 thousand bc so if that's the case that would mean we all came from the ark that short ago but like I said there was a village in amarica by 14 thousand bc and pottery 20 thousand years ago and some were saying that we were making bread 30 thousand years ago
So this is my information also if there were 10 generations between adam and noah and with there life span of being a 1000 years old that would make a time gap of 10 thousand years I can't see how humans would stay in one place that they didn't ho else where also since people say noahs flood was in Turkey that would mean a whole group of humans staying together from moving from Africa to arabia to turkey without some going there different ways
1. First came adam then there was a giant gap then came noah then ad then thamud
2. First came adam then noah then there was giant gap then came ad then thamud
3. First came adam then noah then ad then a giant gap then thamud
4. First came adam then noah then ad then thamud then a giant gap then abraham
5. First came adam then noah then ad then thamud then abraham that there was no giant gap
But it defferlty can't be 5. Because it has been proven that there was a large village in amarica 14000 bc and humans making pottery 20 thousand bc in China so there had to be humans on earth at least 30 thousand bc because if 5. Was correct that would mean adam and noah came only in the last 10 thousand years so adam or noah had to come at least 30 thousand bc
My favourite thery was the first one because noah flood probably happened around the end off the ice age and also science is saying we bred with the neanderthals whitch would mean neanderthals are humans so that would mean the common ancester came 700 thousand bc but the problem was with 69:11 whitch makes it sound like we all come from noah so if yes
Would mean noah came between 30 thousand bc to 700 thousand bc but that makes stuff difficult with ad and thamud because like we said the Arabs could see there dwellings and I can't see that there dwellings could off survive from 30 thousand bc to when the prophet came so ad and thamud had to come within the last 10 thousand years and like I was saying above 7:69 makes it sound like ad was close with noah within a 5 thousand years gap so if ad came within the last 10 thousand years that would mean ad came no further than 10 thousand bc so noah would of come about 5 thousand years before that so that would make noah about 15 thousand bc so if that's the case that would mean we all came from the ark that short ago but like I said there was a village in amarica by 14 thousand bc and pottery 20 thousand years ago and some were saying that we were making bread 30 thousand years ago
So this is my information also if there were 10 generations between adam and noah and with there life span of being a 1000 years old that would make a time gap of 10 thousand years I can't see how humans would stay in one place that they didn't ho else where also since people say noahs flood was in Turkey that would mean a whole group of humans staying together from moving from Africa to arabia to turkey without some going there different ways
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General Discussions / Re: 36:41 - Are we all from the people of the Ark?
« on: April 13, 2017, 09:46:14 AM »
Also from the sound off the quran noahs nation was the first ever khalifa but I thought adam was the first khalifa and then his son and son on etc
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General Discussions / Re: 36:41 - Are we all from the people of the Ark?
« on: April 13, 2017, 09:24:54 AM »
Thanks but it's not just that it says they came after because if that was all what it said then yes I can agree with you but it says that ad was the first khalifas after noah and thamud was the first khalifas after ad this is more the problem it's like me saying the next king after noah is ad that would mean there very close because if there was a big time gap between the 2 that would mean there was no khalifa nation between the 2 also 9:42 (says noah ad and thamud and those who came after none no who they are but allah) that means they were close also 25:38 (ad and thamud and ar rass and many generations in between) also for sake of argument yet say noah came 40 thousand bc and ad came 5 thousand bc that would mean there was no khalifa in between or ad is the khalifa nation for that big of gap also that would mean there was no nation in between who was committing shirk for that long because of ad being the khalifa nation also we have the gobekli temple whitch proves people were committing shirk at least by 9500 bc
So what I'm saying is yes I have no problem with saying after because after means nothing I abs agree with that but it is the khalifa word because that's what says they were close because it's saying they were made the kings after noah thanks jazzakkallah
So what I'm saying is yes I have no problem with saying after because after means nothing I abs agree with that but it is the khalifa word because that's what says they were close because it's saying they were made the kings after noah thanks jazzakkallah
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General Discussions / Re: 36:41 - Are we all from the people of the Ark?
« on: April 12, 2017, 07:33:52 PM »
Ok thanks right this is my main question since we agree that we all come from the ark and we agree we that the prophet saw the dwellings of ad and thamud how can this be because if the prophet could see there dwellings that means that ad and thamud could only come with in the last 10 thousand years but the quran says ad and thamud was near noah 7:74 7:69 so if they came within the last 10 thousand years how could noah come that short and we come from the ark because humans have been here for at least 40 thousand bc that's what I'm confused about
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General Discussions / Re: 36:41 - Are we all from the people of the Ark?
« on: April 10, 2017, 07:38:48 PM »
Ok thanks also I was just wondering did the people of shuaib the people of maydan build houses out of mountains like thamud because if yes I have an instesting theory if yes maybe they were the ones who built those dwellings in petra and madain al saleh
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General Discussions / 36:41 - Are we all from the people of the Ark?
« on: April 10, 2017, 04:32:14 PM »
Assalam alikum I was just wondering does this verse 36:41 prove that every one on earth is from the people of the ark
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General Discussions / khalifa before noah nation
« on: April 07, 2017, 03:06:46 AM »
Assalam alikum I was just wondering before noah nation was the khalifa nation was the khalifa on a individual bases before it turned into as a nation like adam was the khalifa but not his people
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General Discussions / Re: Understanding what is doubts in the quran
« on: April 05, 2017, 03:20:43 AM »
Assalam alikum no I don't doubt but I get confused by what the quran means at times because at times it says one thing then at times it says something else
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General Discussions / Re: 5:101 and 57:14
« on: April 04, 2017, 06:23:54 AM »
Thanks also what does the first mean by you put yourself into temption on purpose the arabic word here is fitnah I'm not sure what this means because we all sin on purpose sometimes and put our self's into fitnah on purpose sometimes so would that make us hypocrites or does it mean something else
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General Discussions / Re: Understanding what is doubts in the quran
« on: April 04, 2017, 05:13:26 AM »
Like is the doubt of a hypocrite someone who is 50/50 or is some a hypocrite if he has only 1-20 percent doubt but 80-99 percent shore islam is the truth
Like I said this is confusing because every muslims has about 1 percent now and again doubt so would that make them a hypocrite and if they died with that would that make him go to hell
Like I said this is confusing because every muslims has about 1 percent now and again doubt so would that make them a hypocrite and if they died with that would that make him go to hell
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General Discussions / Understanding what is doubts in the quran
« on: April 04, 2017, 04:53:16 AM »
Assalam alikum the quran says never to doubt and I understand that
But it says that if you doubt you are a hypocrite and if you die you go to hell but we all have some doubts because that's what makes us human so I really confused because if you have some doubt would that make you go to hell because if yes that would be the majority of us
Abraham had some doubts but he was a prophet and asked god to show him how to raise the dead to reassure his mind and heart
So I'm really confused by whitch doubts make you a hypocrite and whitch doubts are fine like abraham
Because it makes it sound like any doubt makes you a hypocrite and you will go to hell but I know that's not the case because of Abraham
I'm mean is there a thing called doubts in the mind and and doubts in the heart is there a difference between the two
But it says that if you doubt you are a hypocrite and if you die you go to hell but we all have some doubts because that's what makes us human so I really confused because if you have some doubt would that make you go to hell because if yes that would be the majority of us
Abraham had some doubts but he was a prophet and asked god to show him how to raise the dead to reassure his mind and heart
So I'm really confused by whitch doubts make you a hypocrite and whitch doubts are fine like abraham
Because it makes it sound like any doubt makes you a hypocrite and you will go to hell but I know that's not the case because of Abraham
I'm mean is there a thing called doubts in the mind and and doubts in the heart is there a difference between the two
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General Discussions / Picture making and Torah
« on: April 03, 2017, 03:16:16 AM »
Assalam alikum I was just wondering is it allowed to make pitchures in islam of living things because the torch says don't make any graven images
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General Discussions / Re: 5:101 and 57:14
« on: April 02, 2017, 02:07:15 AM »
Ok so what does the verse mean to you like what situation would 57:14 in modern day age mean