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General Discussions / Re: Drinking Urine

« on: February 10, 2014, 12:13:00 AM »

Salaam Deliverance


http://loudoun.nvcc.edu/vetonline/vet111/digestive%20sys/digestive%20lesson.htm

I am going to check with my friend who works at the University Animal Hospital... I am positive the milk is not mixed with dung before it is purified, it is something about an organ. They have several chambers.

ok ,do that i am interested to know how the "production" of milk works, inside of animals chewing the kud.
I think our creator wants to tell us that from blood (forbidden) and dung(also forbidden!?)is coming milk what is lawful to drink, and thats the sign People should think about.

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General Discussions / Re: Drinking Urine

« on: February 09, 2014, 05:53:07 PM »

Salaam Deliverance,

I can look it up later,

  Sperm drinking is next..

For those who are interested in sexual practices it would useful to know "7) Then He made his seed from a draught of despised fluid; ( Sura 32"
regards

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General Discussions / Re: Drinking Urine

« on: February 09, 2014, 05:44:14 PM »

Well,
F-R-TH is used for dung;to empty the Contents of a sack or belly;to inform on someone;
its not clear if urine is also meant with "Contents of belly"

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General Discussions / Re: Drinking Urine

« on: February 09, 2014, 03:35:16 AM »

Salam,

I wouldn´t drink urine it is the waste of our body and in Sura 16 we read "...And verily in cattle (too) will ye find an instructive Sign. From what is within their bodies, between excretions and blood, We produce for your drink, milk, pure and agreeable to those who drink it. (66)
 
Now one had to check what F-R-Th means is it just faeces or urine .im tired to look it up 

and by the way i remember to find sperm also described as a dirty liquid.

regards

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General Discussions / Re: Qatala in the Quran

« on: February 07, 2014, 10:46:55 PM »

salamAbbsrayray,

Thats what i exatly thought to be when i read "anfusakoum" meaning the ego

regards

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General Discussions / Qatala in the Quran

« on: February 07, 2014, 05:37:43 PM »

Salam,

The word qatala is used very often and mostly it is used for "to kill" while other meanings could be the stand for it because it has several meanings.

For example the Translation of vers 53 "Sura The Cow"(53) And remember Moses said to his people: "O my people! Ye have indeed wronged yourselves by your worship of the calf so turn (in repentance) to your Maker and slay yourselves (the wrong-doers); that will be better for you in the sight of your Maker." Then He turned toward you (in forgiveness); for He is Oft-returning Most Merciful. (54) "

translated by Jusuf ali

the translation slay yoursel or in other translations kill the wrongdoers from you does not make sense if go on reading "...that will better for you...then he turned toward you;for he is oftreturning..."if you have killed yourself or the other wrongdoers there is no Need to turn toward someone who is already dead so a better Translation would be:

 "...and struggle yourself;that will be better for you in the sight of you Maker..."

This thread should be used for all the false qatala=KILL verses in the Quran feel free to search .

regards

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Islamic Duties / Re: Prohibition of pictures

« on: February 06, 2014, 09:02:01 PM »

Slam alikum Joseph,

Thank you for the link,i haven´t found your article in QA section again your writing was datailed analyzed.

regards

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Islamic Duties / Prohibition of pictures

« on: February 06, 2014, 02:56:33 AM »

A common and open theme is the probition of pictures in Islam although there is no one Vers which is dealing with it Muslims following this Dogma.The secondary sources of Islam are full of it and the main statement is that pictures of living beeing is prohibited wether you draw nor hang it in your home.
I probably found in the story of Joseph a hint that pictures are allowed. Surah Yusuf

"And the king said: Bring him unto me that I may attach him to my person. And when he had talked with him he said: Lo! thou art to-day in our presence established and trusted. (54) He said: Set me over the storehouses of the land. Lo! I am a skilled custodian. (55) Thus gave We power to Joseph in the land. He was the owner of it where he pleased. We reach with Our mercy whom We will. We lose not the reward of the good. (56)"
In his Position we get to know that he has to manage the stock of the state and to wright everthing down.As you know the acient egyptians wrote with Hieroglyphs and the numbers had also that form.
http://www.discoveringegypt.com/pics/numbers.jpg

There are also drawings of the Prophet Mohamed showing his face and there used to be pictures inside the Kaabah.

regards

Source:
,,Hieroglyph-Numbers",http://discoveringegypt.com/egyptian-mathematics-numbers-hieroglyphs.htm,05.02.2014

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General Discussions / Re: Critique - DOES THE QURAN ALLOW ... DOGS, CATS, RATS ETC? by Arman Aziz

« on: February 05, 2014, 12:51:13 AM »

Honeynectar and quails better then vegetable?

(56) And We caused the white cloud to overshadow you and sent down on you the manna and the quails, (saying): Eat of the good things wherewith We have provided you ...."(60) And when ye said: O Moses! We are weary of one kind of food; so call upon thy Lord for us that He bring forth for us of that which the earth groweth - of its herbs and its cucumbers and its corn and its lentils and its onions. He said: Would ye exchange that which is higher for that which is lower? ..."

Sorry for always interrupting your debate

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Women / Re: Old women in sura 2

« on: February 05, 2014, 12:42:10 AM »

okay this is a better translation

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General Discussions / Re: Critique - DOES THE QURAN ALLOW ... DOGS, CATS, RATS ETC? by Arman Aziz

« on: February 03, 2014, 08:45:45 PM »

Salam all,
I think we have discussed enough in details ,so could someone make an illustraion of this theme,cause Joseph has quit this thread.

Something like a bubble in the Center(all Food/drink lawful) and then right/left bubble (exept blood, dead,swine,alcool ) and destinction between sea and land Food which is poisionous,harmful for People or Environment and used for riding(carnivore and carcass eater,beast of burden)

I

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General Discussions / Re: Critique - DOES THE QURAN ALLOW ... DOGS, CATS, RATS ETC? by Arman Aziz

« on: February 03, 2014, 04:36:46 PM »

i forgotten to add Cormorant fishing a form of fishing http://mrjournalist.com/a-brief-history-of-cormorant-fishing/

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General Discussions / Re: Critique - DOES THE QURAN ALLOW ... DOGS, CATS, RATS ETC? by Arman Aziz

« on: February 03, 2014, 04:12:38 PM »

Does vers 5-1 include grazing animals in the sea this would answer the debate about if sharks and other predator in the sea are lawful because such fishes aren´t easy to hunt without difficulty an harm for both fish/man.
So "...the game of the sea..." is the grazing livestock of the ocean and most of them are in swarms like grazing animals on land are in Groups.And the form to hunt is to throw the net out in to the sea,and not by catching them with meat on fishing rod.

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Women / Re: Old women in sura 2

« on: February 03, 2014, 12:25:11 AM »

when looked up this word again i remembered a term which the mystical sects of Islam uses to describe the state of a Soul the novice have,it´s called "nafs al-ammara" they say it this stage someone is not trustworthy because he tends to Forget,to lie intentionaly or not,one who insinuates to evil.
Sura 12:53
"I do not exculpate myself. Lo! the (human) soul enjoineth unto evil, save that whereon my Lord hath mercy. Lo! my Lord is Forgiving, Merciful. (53)"

Sura 18:71
"So they twain set out till, when they were in the ship, he made a hole therein. (Moses) said: Hast thou made a hole therein to drown the folk thereof? Thou verily hast done a dreadful thing. (71) "

Here it is "imraa" and can be translated as grievous or abominable.

Rajul is used i think for Man in a high position so it could mean:"...then one Man(known trustworthness) and two guys(People have doupts about them)...."

Doesn´t it make more sense in case of different memories by the man and the two guys it is not bad to use harsh words like men uses somtimes.

wa salam 

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General Discussions / Re: Wine in the Quran

« on: February 02, 2014, 05:55:42 PM »

Salam Sadar,
What i wanted to say is that the evil is pushed by men sura 11:78 the People of lot are attacking him and his guest and he is searching for reasonable men under them.

@Ismail
i apreciate your understanding of the Partner in the hereafter and by the quote i wanted to show that the picture of women/parties and orgies is not correct.Man can be debauchery without females.

@Abbsrayray
Thank you for the wise words but i did not belive in the 72Virgin-Myth seem like someone wanted to make the pardise look like a brothel.