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Women / Re: women paridise polygamy forced

« on: March 10, 2019, 10:04:32 PM »

SalamunAlaykum,

I wanted to say that it is not really a "petty issue", if one is told (especially women) that she will be with her current husband, her husband will have many hoories as well as her, she will be "queen" over the hooris and more beautiful than them etc. It becomes a matter of ruining someone's perception of Jannah thus making it difficult to work towards it in the first place.
"Just focus on getting to Jannah" seems like a common thing said to women who worry about this issue. How can they work for something that is being portrayed as unfair and male biased? I feel that it's often easier for a man to just dismiss this is a non-serious issue.

I have spoken to a few women who were losing faith because of this "hoori" issue. It is not always so easy.

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Women / Women's clothes and rape?

« on: March 10, 2019, 09:47:44 PM »

Salamun Alaykum,

I have a few questions.

1.
I feel like some people use the command for women to cover so they are not "molested" (33:59) to show that clothing is supposed to protect a woman? But I've even heard of cases where women were sexually assaulted near the Kabah, fully clothed. How is clothing a protection?

2.
If "fashish" acts includes more than unlawful sexual intercourse, would the term generally include even include clothing or it is SEXUAL actions? As far as I know, there is no punishment for someone due to their clothing.

3.
4:15 talks about a punishment for women but the next verse (4:16) for men speaks of forgiveness and mercy? Or does the forgiveness in verse 4:17 also apply to the women in 4:15?



Thanks for any answers! 

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Women / Re: Women's issues.. Again

« on: November 07, 2017, 03:41:52 AM »

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Women / ...

« on: December 14, 2014, 08:28:59 PM »

Thanks for the welcome!

I considered myself Sunni only a short while ago so a lot of their ideas are stuck in my head.

I feel like we can't make assumptions when Allah Swt says "whatever we desire". Sunnis also say that everything that is forbidden in this world will be forbidden in the next life. Yet, even in their Hadith, things like silk are forbidden on men yet in the Qur'an it states we will be dressed in silk. It's contradictory.
They use this to explain why a woman will have only one husband in Jannah while they can have many because Allah has allowed them to in this life. Which I still don't fully understand why. Aren't we supposed to learn through God the notion of love? Isn't that what marriage should be about? Oftentimes it seems like Muslim men don't even want to fall in love with their wives just because they can have many. Yet these men also argue that it's a woman's "nature" to want her husband all to herself. On top of this, they still argue that a woman can't even have a man created of her choice in Paradise!
This life is a test, I can only assume polygamy is a test for women. And it's not right to apply the rules of this world to the next.

Back on topic, I think it's safe to say that everything and anything will be possible (after all, it's Paradise) because we only have God's words to trust.

Thanks for your response.

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Women / Wordly couples in Jannah?

« on: December 10, 2014, 01:06:15 AM »

Salamun'Alaykum. 


There are many sunni women who ask questions and worry about why it says in Islam (namely their hadith) that women will be forced to stay with their spouse in Paradise while it's different for their husbands. It's easy to denounce the Hadith but when it comes to verses..

13:23 - Gardens of perpetual residence; they will enter them with whoever were righteous among their fathers, their spouses and their descendants. And the angels will enter upon them from every gate, [saying],

43:70 - Enter Paradise, you and your wives, in happiness.

Sunnis use these verses to support their Hadith which claim that women will be stuck with their worldly husbands in Paradise, devoid of choice. And they quote the following verse to 'prove' that if a wife does not wish to be with her worldly husband, her negative feelings will be removed in Heaven so she wouldn't mind being with him there even though she didn't want to. Isn't that false happiness?

7:43 - And We remove whatever rancour may be in their hearts. Rivers flow beneath them. And they say: The praise to Allah, Who hath guided us to this. We could not truly have been led aright if Allah had not guided us. Verily the messengers of our Lord did bring the Truth. And it is cried unto them: This is the Garden. Ye inherit it for what ye used to do.

Does that mean that couples that were together in this world, will be stuck in together in Jannah too? What if one of them does not want to be with their earthly spouse? Perhaps because he/she doesn't love the other, or they are in the marriage due to cultural reasons? There are many women and even men who are forced into marriages, who live in loveless marriages or just have feelings for someone else.
Of course the Hadith always seem to be favoring men in this case and their "desires". But after reading the Quran's verses, it's a bit confusing. Will there be a choice? People say that there are limits to when God says that we can "have whatever we desire/want" (16:31, 25:16, 41:31, 43:71). This is without including the obvious murdering, stealing etc.

I'm not sure how to respond to women when they come up with these questions and this whole "huri" and "spouse" topic seems to come up more often than what people would think.

The Hadith:
The Prophet, said: “The woman will be for her last husband in Paradise.” [Al-Albaani]

As you probably already know, there are other Hadith too which indicate that women will be with their worldly husbands in Paradise whether they want to or not. I just want to understand the Qur'an's verses that sunnis use to support this.

I've also seen one man use this verse to justify the "rewards for men".

3:14 - "Beautified for men is the love of things they covet; women, children, much of gold and silver (wealth), branded beautiful horses, cattle and well-tilled land. This is the pleasure of the present world's life; but Allah has the excellent return (Paradise with flowing rivers, etc.) with Him."
 
Thanks for taking time to answer. Apologies if this topic has already been covered. I saw the article for the "hoori" one but couldn't find one about what I'm wanting to know now. And I also apologize if this seems like a trivial matter but it bothers me too.