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#91
Discussions / Re: THE BOOK THAT CONTAINS ALM...
Last post by Wakas - March 02, 2025, 09:08:37 PM"sahih" more accurately means the isnad/chain is "sound", not that the hadith is true or not.
Almost all hadith are classed as "ahad hadith" which means they are probabilistic (not certain knowledge like Quran). This is accepted by almost all classical Traditional Muslim scholars.
https://almuslih.org/wp-content/uploads/Library/Hallaq,%20W%20-%20The%20authenticity.pdf
Almost all hadith are classed as "ahad hadith" which means they are probabilistic (not certain knowledge like Quran). This is accepted by almost all classical Traditional Muslim scholars.
https://almuslih.org/wp-content/uploads/Library/Hallaq,%20W%20-%20The%20authenticity.pdf
#92
Discussions / THE BOOK THAT CONTAINS ALMOST ...
Last post by Tahir Bashtug - March 01, 2025, 08:53:01 PMThere is an OUTSTANDING book that came out very recently that has all the potential to be the SAHIH AL BUKHARI OF THE FUTURE. This is the book that has acvieved that no scholar has been able to achieve until this point in history. There is a book that contains ALMOST ALL authentic ahadeeth. It is called Al-Jami al-Kamil Fi al-Hadith al-Sahih al-Shamil. It is written by the previous Dean of the Department of Hadith at the Islamic University of Madinah. In this book, the author claims that he has compiled all authentic Prophetic narrations (sahīh ahādīth) from more than two hundred books. This work constitutes the first time in Islamic history that a single unified work claims to have captured all authentic hadiths. This work took him more than fifteen years to complete and is a result of IMMENSE KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE.
Here is where you can download it on the internet, with the highest quality:
1st link: https://archive.org/details/jami-ul-kamil-vol.-4-version-1-arabic/Jami%20ul%20Kamil%20%28Vol.%201%29%20version%201%20%28Arabic%29/
2nd link: https://archive.org/details/4-1_20240326/%D8%AC%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%B9%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%83%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%84%20%28%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AC%D9%84%D8%AF%201%29%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%B5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%201%20%28%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A%29/page/n35/mode/2up
3rd link: https://www.scribd.com/document/647373763/All-Sahih-Hadith-In-One-Book-Jami-Ul-Kamil-PDF-PDF-%D9%83%D9%84-%D8%B5%D8%AD%D9%8A%D8%AD-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%AB-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A-%D8%AC%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%83%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%84-Al-Jami-Ul-Kamil-Fi-Al-Hadith-Al-Sahih-Al-Shamil-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%B9-%D8%A7%D9%84
Here is where you can download it on the internet, with the highest quality:
1st link: https://archive.org/details/jami-ul-kamil-vol.-4-version-1-arabic/Jami%20ul%20Kamil%20%28Vol.%201%29%20version%201%20%28Arabic%29/
2nd link: https://archive.org/details/4-1_20240326/%D8%AC%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%B9%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%83%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%84%20%28%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AC%D9%84%D8%AF%201%29%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%B5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%201%20%28%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A%29/page/n35/mode/2up
3rd link: https://www.scribd.com/document/647373763/All-Sahih-Hadith-In-One-Book-Jami-Ul-Kamil-PDF-PDF-%D9%83%D9%84-%D8%B5%D8%AD%D9%8A%D8%AD-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%AB-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A8%D9%8A-%D8%AC%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%83%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%84-Al-Jami-Ul-Kamil-Fi-Al-Hadith-Al-Sahih-Al-Shamil-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%B9-%D8%A7%D9%84
#93
General Discussions / Re: Analysis of the Consecutiv...
Last post by Wakas - February 28, 2025, 08:27:47 PM #94
General Discussions / Can you please create a Discor...
Last post by Sabir Mahmud - February 28, 2025, 01:18:57 PMDear Sir, Joseph Islam,
Assalamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh,
It's been about two years since I have been studying the Quran-alone approach to Islam. I found your site quite helpful in this journey.
But, I am a lonely Quran-alone Muslim living amidst the Sunni Hadithists. And I can't even convince people to join the Quran-alone creed because I am alone. I am not wise enough yet to establish a community of Quran-alone Muslims. I could only convince a very few friends of mine to accept some Quranic ideologies, like: there is no punishment of the grave, no punishment of stoning for adultery, etc.
I still feel lonely anyway, disconnected from the Quraniyoon brothers and sisters from other parts of the world. And I am pretty sure there are thousands of Quraniyoon brothers and sisters all around the world who feel the same — alone and isolated.
Sir, Joseph Islam, I would humbly request you to consider creating a Discord server for the Quranite Muslims. At least we will be connected virtually. We won't have to feel lonely anymore.
It would be nice to have a common platform where we can share our stories, our knowledge, and also have casual talks in free times.
And we can have a Q&A section dedicated to questions and answers only.
You know, Quran-alone Muslims are very confused about the religious practices like Salat, Zakat, etc. If we have a common platform, we can reach a consensus on how to perform Salat.
You can unite the scattered Quran-alone Muslims from all around the world if we have a Discord server. Besides, it will become easier to bring our surrounding Hadith followers into the realm of monotheism.
So, sir, I hope you will kindly consider creating a Discord server for the Quran followers and uniting them on a single platform. May God bless you, increase your wisdom, and reward you for your efforts in spreading the truth of the Quran.
Ramadan Mubarak to everyone!😊
Best Regards,
Sabir Mahmud
Assalamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh,
It's been about two years since I have been studying the Quran-alone approach to Islam. I found your site quite helpful in this journey.
But, I am a lonely Quran-alone Muslim living amidst the Sunni Hadithists. And I can't even convince people to join the Quran-alone creed because I am alone. I am not wise enough yet to establish a community of Quran-alone Muslims. I could only convince a very few friends of mine to accept some Quranic ideologies, like: there is no punishment of the grave, no punishment of stoning for adultery, etc.
I still feel lonely anyway, disconnected from the Quraniyoon brothers and sisters from other parts of the world. And I am pretty sure there are thousands of Quraniyoon brothers and sisters all around the world who feel the same — alone and isolated.
Sir, Joseph Islam, I would humbly request you to consider creating a Discord server for the Quranite Muslims. At least we will be connected virtually. We won't have to feel lonely anymore.
It would be nice to have a common platform where we can share our stories, our knowledge, and also have casual talks in free times.
And we can have a Q&A section dedicated to questions and answers only.
You know, Quran-alone Muslims are very confused about the religious practices like Salat, Zakat, etc. If we have a common platform, we can reach a consensus on how to perform Salat.
You can unite the scattered Quran-alone Muslims from all around the world if we have a Discord server. Besides, it will become easier to bring our surrounding Hadith followers into the realm of monotheism.
So, sir, I hope you will kindly consider creating a Discord server for the Quran followers and uniting them on a single platform. May God bless you, increase your wisdom, and reward you for your efforts in spreading the truth of the Quran.
Ramadan Mubarak to everyone!😊
Best Regards,
Sabir Mahmud
#95
General Discussions / Re: Analysis of the Consecutiv...
Last post by fireheart47 - February 28, 2025, 01:22:40 AMDear abdul.samad and Wakas,
Do you think the meaning of "qatal" in 9:5 could be interpreted as "fight" instead of "kill". If the former where true, perhaps it would indicate holy months as time when religious conversion would be less intense, in order to be merciful. It seems like a contradiction to permit killing.
What is holy about the holy months? Are there any activities forbidden during the holy months, which indicate why and how they are holy? For example, do they coincide with any agricultural activity or hardship due to difficult yearly weather?
Thank you for considering these questions.
Do you think the meaning of "qatal" in 9:5 could be interpreted as "fight" instead of "kill". If the former where true, perhaps it would indicate holy months as time when religious conversion would be less intense, in order to be merciful. It seems like a contradiction to permit killing.
What is holy about the holy months? Are there any activities forbidden during the holy months, which indicate why and how they are holy? For example, do they coincide with any agricultural activity or hardship due to difficult yearly weather?
Thank you for considering these questions.
#96
General Discussions / Re: Analysis of the Consecutiv...
Last post by Wakas - February 24, 2025, 10:58:51 PMpeace,
I agree with 4 consecutive months and so does brother Joseph if I recall correctly.
I mention some of those points and others here:
https://mypercept.co.uk/articles/quran-calendar.html
I agree with 4 consecutive months and so does brother Joseph if I recall correctly.
I mention some of those points and others here:
https://mypercept.co.uk/articles/quran-calendar.html
#97
General Discussions / Re: THE QUR'AN PROHIBITS SLAVE...
Last post by Wakas - February 24, 2025, 10:49:55 PMI'm not sure what you mean because your translation of 47:4 would obviously lead to taking "new slaves".
So perhaps you mean "no new slaves are allowed to be kept" - is that what you mean?
In any case can you clarify if you actually read the first link I provided and you still think your translation of 47:4 is more accurate? I find that hard to believe hence my question.
So perhaps you mean "no new slaves are allowed to be kept" - is that what you mean?
In any case can you clarify if you actually read the first link I provided and you still think your translation of 47:4 is more accurate? I find that hard to believe hence my question.
#98
General Discussions / Analysis of the Consecutive Na...
Last post by abdul.samad - February 23, 2025, 03:03:44 AMAnalysis of the Consecutive Nature of the Four Sacred Months in the Quran
The traditional view, widely accepted among Islamic scholars, is that the 4 sacred months mentioned in the Quran are Dhu al-Qa'dah (11th month), Dhu al-Hijjah (12th month), Muharram (1st month) - three consecutive months - and Rajab ((7th month). While the traditional understanding of the sacred months being non-consecutive is widely accepted, the interpretation of consecutive sacred months is based on linguistic and contextual analysis of Quranic verses.
1. . Verse 9:5 and the Term "Insalakha":
Quranic Indication: The verse 9:5 states, "Then when the Hurum Months have 'insalakha' (passed in succession), you may kill the Mushrikeen wherever you find them. Seize them and besiege them and lie in wait for them at every point." The key term "insalakha" literally means "skinned," akin to how one skins a snake gradually and consecutively. The use of this word indicates that the Hurum months are consecutive, as opposed to a simple phrase like "when the months have passed."
Practical Implication: From a practical perspective, a consecutive period of sacred months would simplify the observance of prohibitions related to warfare and certain other activities, providing a clear, uninterrupted timeframe for these restrictions.
2. Verse 9:3 - Traditional Understanding and Its Issues:
Verse 9:3 states, "This is an announcement from Allah and His messenger to the people on the Day of the greater pilgrimage." Traditionally, this is understood to be on the 10th of Dhu al-Hijjah. Therefore, presumably, the free movement will start from 10th of Dul Hajj and spreads into Muharram (next year), Safer, Rabihul Awwal and until 10th of Rabihul Akhir. This is inconsistent and also this will create confusion since Mushrikeen are prohibited from approaching the Sacred Mosque after this year [9:28], implying that the four months do not include Muharram, Safar, Rabi' al-Awwal, and Rabi' al-Thani.
3. Alternative Interpretation of Yamul Hajjul Akbar:
Yamul Hajjul Akbar could be the first day of Ramadan. The Quran mentions "al hajj shahrun malomat" (well-known months) in 2:197, indicating that Hajj spans over several months. If Yamul Hajjul Akbar is on the first day of Ramadan, the four consecutive months would be Ramadan, Shawwal, Dhu al-Qi'dah, and Dhu al-Hijjah, aligning with the end of the year. This interpretation links logically with the prohibition of Mushrikeen approaching Masjid al-Haram from the next year onwards.
There is no logical explanation for why Ramadan is not considered a sacred month and waging war during Ramadan is generally not permissible unless Muslims are attacked by enemies.
Rajab was considered a sacred month by the pagan Arabs before the advent of Islam. It is possible that Rajab was skillfully retained as a sacred month to maintain continuity and influenced by its historical sanctity, ensuring cultural and religious cohesion.
Conclusion:
The analysis suggests that the four Hurum months indicated in the Quran are consecutive, supported by the term "insalakha" and an alternative interpretation of Yamul Hajjul Akbar being the first day of Ramadan. The 4 consecutive months ends after Dul Hajj, which is the end of the year (Ramadan, Shawwal, Dul Qadah and Dul Hajj).
The traditional view, widely accepted among Islamic scholars, is that the 4 sacred months mentioned in the Quran are Dhu al-Qa'dah (11th month), Dhu al-Hijjah (12th month), Muharram (1st month) - three consecutive months - and Rajab ((7th month). While the traditional understanding of the sacred months being non-consecutive is widely accepted, the interpretation of consecutive sacred months is based on linguistic and contextual analysis of Quranic verses.
1. . Verse 9:5 and the Term "Insalakha":
Quranic Indication: The verse 9:5 states, "Then when the Hurum Months have 'insalakha' (passed in succession), you may kill the Mushrikeen wherever you find them. Seize them and besiege them and lie in wait for them at every point." The key term "insalakha" literally means "skinned," akin to how one skins a snake gradually and consecutively. The use of this word indicates that the Hurum months are consecutive, as opposed to a simple phrase like "when the months have passed."
Practical Implication: From a practical perspective, a consecutive period of sacred months would simplify the observance of prohibitions related to warfare and certain other activities, providing a clear, uninterrupted timeframe for these restrictions.
2. Verse 9:3 - Traditional Understanding and Its Issues:
Verse 9:3 states, "This is an announcement from Allah and His messenger to the people on the Day of the greater pilgrimage." Traditionally, this is understood to be on the 10th of Dhu al-Hijjah. Therefore, presumably, the free movement will start from 10th of Dul Hajj and spreads into Muharram (next year), Safer, Rabihul Awwal and until 10th of Rabihul Akhir. This is inconsistent and also this will create confusion since Mushrikeen are prohibited from approaching the Sacred Mosque after this year [9:28], implying that the four months do not include Muharram, Safar, Rabi' al-Awwal, and Rabi' al-Thani.
3. Alternative Interpretation of Yamul Hajjul Akbar:
Yamul Hajjul Akbar could be the first day of Ramadan. The Quran mentions "al hajj shahrun malomat" (well-known months) in 2:197, indicating that Hajj spans over several months. If Yamul Hajjul Akbar is on the first day of Ramadan, the four consecutive months would be Ramadan, Shawwal, Dhu al-Qi'dah, and Dhu al-Hijjah, aligning with the end of the year. This interpretation links logically with the prohibition of Mushrikeen approaching Masjid al-Haram from the next year onwards.
There is no logical explanation for why Ramadan is not considered a sacred month and waging war during Ramadan is generally not permissible unless Muslims are attacked by enemies.
Rajab was considered a sacred month by the pagan Arabs before the advent of Islam. It is possible that Rajab was skillfully retained as a sacred month to maintain continuity and influenced by its historical sanctity, ensuring cultural and religious cohesion.
Conclusion:
The analysis suggests that the four Hurum months indicated in the Quran are consecutive, supported by the term "insalakha" and an alternative interpretation of Yamul Hajjul Akbar being the first day of Ramadan. The 4 consecutive months ends after Dul Hajj, which is the end of the year (Ramadan, Shawwal, Dul Qadah and Dul Hajj).
#99
General Discussions / Re: THE QUR'AN PROHIBITS SLAVE...
Last post by abdul.samad - February 23, 2025, 02:55:30 AMIt is appropriate to say, no new slaves were allowed, and gradual release of the existing slaves.
#100