Dear brother Ahmad,
As-salam alaykum
My apologies, my response was not intended to enter into a debate. I merely shared my view on this. I should have made that clear. Once again, I apologise.
However, please see my response to your comments in blue italics.
"In the example you kindly provided, the overhead costs are not because of a loan."
I merely made the point that a concept of 'overhead' costs was recognised by the Quran. It was the concept (of overheads) I was referring to and not whether it was for a loan or otherwise. Even in the context of ‘charity’ as in verse 9:60, what would be the purpose of mentioning this group as a recipient of charity / charitable funds if it was not to compensate them for their services?
People need income to survive and cannot always offer their services for free. I know many charities today throughout the world that employ staff and who they pay for their services (albeit in some cases, nominal). With income, they can feed their own families, pay their own zakat, taxes and contribute to purchasing services which keeps societies afloat. I believe this is not against the Quran especially given the explicit mention in 9:60 of the 'concept'.
"Overhead or admin fees usually do not exist if the loan is taken from a friend for instance."
I have no reason to deny this, nor was this point ever in contention. That is why I shared in bold the words 'some cases' with brackets, the words, "especially where there are larger establishments involved". I was not talking about personal loans between two individuals.
"Building upon that, why would a institution (Not a bank) give loans to people and seek to cover its administrative costs if the whole purpose is to do good."
Some large institutions (I was mainly referring to banks) may give loans to people with 0% interest (with nominal admin fees) to entice their customers with other products they may wish to offer. The point I intended to make was that some lenders may have administration costs that they wish to cover.
As a crude example, say someone has asked me to lend them 5 particular horses for a show they are taking part in. However, I have costs associated in acquiring those particular horses from another land where they presently reside. Why should I be expected to absorb those costs in retrieving the horses from another land? These would be arguably, overhead costs that should be absorbed by the one seeking to borrow or loan my items.
I feel it is useful to remember that loans are not always ‘paper money’, especially if you consider the 7th century context in which the Quran spoke to the primary audience.
Finally I made it absolutely clear that any administration cost needs to be reasonable and not 'interest' or riba disguised as 'an administration / overhead' cost.
I hope that helps to share my humble perspectives, God willing.
Regards,
Joseph