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Offline Sardar Miyan

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Allahu Akbar in Quran
« on: February 12, 2015, 04:11:51 AM »

(40:10:7) akbaru   (was) greater    إِنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا يُنَادَوْنَ لَمَقْتُ اللَّهِ أَكْبَرُ مِنْ مَقْتِكُمْ أَنْفُسَكُمْ

Salam all, In another Forum they say that Allah Hu Akbar is not in Quran but in the above Aya & some
other Ayah there appears to be Allah Hu Akbar I think. Can somebody help me and why when calling
Azan & calling Iqama before salat they call Allah Hu Akbar ? Thanks
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Re: Allahu Akbar in Quran
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2015, 06:12:38 AM »
Dear brother Sardar,

As-salamu alaykum

From what I understand from your question, I have already answered the gist of your question in another related Q&A.

Allah Hu Akbar
http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=326.0

For future reference you might find the following Q&A database of some use:

http://quransmessage.com/articles/q&as%20FM3.htm

I hope that helps, God willing
Joseph
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Re: Allahu Akbar in Quran
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2015, 04:48:31 AM »
Salam Bro JAI , My only question is whether the word " Allah Hu Akbar " is in Quran? Thanks
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Re: Allahu Akbar in Quran
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2015, 01:04:13 AM »
Dear brother Sardar,

As-salamu alaykum

I believe your question had an underlying premise which was to possibly justify whether or not reciting 'Allah hu-Akbar' in the Azan or 'Iqama' was legitimate, if the phrase was not found in the Quran in exactly that form. That is why I feel you asked the question "Can somebody help me and why when calling Azan & calling Iqama before salat they call Allah Hu Akbar?" in your first post.

With that in mind, I shared the post with you and the emphasis that 'language' is simply a medium to relay a sentiment. That is all.

The usual form encountered in the Quran is 'al-Kabir' (4:34; 13:9; 22:62).

It is important to remember that the Quran gives a wide berth for believers to call God by any beautiful name, this is irrespective of language. The only restriction is not to use unseemly, deviant, or distorted names. In my humble view, this is the Quranic position.

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“The most beautiful names belong to God: so call on Him by them; but shun such men as use profanity in His names: for what they do, they will soon be requited”

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“Say: "Call upon Allah, or call upon Rahman: by whatever name ye call upon Him, (it is well): for to Him belong the most beautiful names. Neither speak thy Prayer aloud, nor speak it in a low tone, but seek a middle course between."”

For example, when prophet Abraham was in search of God, He exclaimed "this is my Lord; this is greater (akbar)".

"....hadha rabbi hadha akbaru..." (6:78 part)

Therefore, Prophet Abraham's intention was to capture the sentiment (in his own language) that a God had to be 'greater' than anything else in the Universe. This is not simply a comparison with 'other gods', but anything within the conceivable realms of the human intellect.

Considering that the ways of worship and specific rites started with prophet Abraham (2:128) (the form of Islam believers adhere to) and that prophet Abraham was explicitly referred to in the Quran as the believer's 'father of faith' (22:78) and God's friend (4:125), his sentiment captured by the Quran for posterity cannot be simply dismissed. He used the comparative term ‘akbar’.

It is always useful to remember that the instruction in the Quran is simply for believers to magnify God (74:3) in any manner possible. The language or words used (albeit they must be beautiful and apt) simply carry that sentiment. With respect, this matter needs not be complicated beyond that.

I hope that helps, God willing
Joseph


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Re: Allahu Akbar in Quran
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2015, 01:28:03 AM »
Thanks Bro JAI for clarification.


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