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Can Atheists Go To Heaven In Islam? A Surprising Answer!
« on: April 06, 2015, 01:57:54 AM »
Please watch a short 6 minute video. I was surprised to find a Saudi scholar with tolerant views! Oh well, live and learn!

Can Atheists Go To Heaven In Islam? A Surprising Answer!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj3JrYLYCQ8&feature=youtu.be

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Re: Can Atheists Go To Heaven In Islam? A Surprising Answer!
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2015, 04:03:52 AM »
When the Athiest don't believe in God how can they go to Heavan because Allah made only for those
who not only believe God but live life according to Gods commands. The Athiests are two way behind
first they don't believe God & second don't obey His commands.
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Re: Can Atheists Go To Heaven In Islam? A Surprising Answer!
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2015, 08:12:22 AM »
God alone can judge. Let not Muslims think their's would be an easy judgement.They have been given the Quran.

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Re: Can Atheists Go To Heaven In Islam? A Surprising Answer!
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2015, 12:53:41 AM »
Only belivers are supposed to go to Jannah if their deeds were good but not a non beliver. Wallah u Alam.
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Re: Can Atheists Go To Heaven In Islam? A Surprising Answer!
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2015, 08:06:29 AM »
Asalamu Alykum Brother Sardar Miyan

If we take a minute and vision who were the believers in the time of the Prophet Muhammad(pbuh)? What was their past?

We would realize at one point they were polytheists. Or they believed in idols and worshipped others than the One True God.

Now when God is warning in the Quran about taking others for worship and believing to only believe in him and to follow the Quran. He is obviously talking to people who are reading its message and to people who have been sent a message from before.

So its once the message has been truly been received by people that they are warned about polytheism and idol worship. Yes only God knows when.

4:47. O you who were given the Book! Believe in what We sent down, confirming what you have, before We obliterate faces and turn them inside out, or curse them as We cursed the Sabbath-breakers. The command of God is always done.

4:48. God does not forgive association with Him, but He forgives anything less than that to whomever He wills. Whoever associates anything with God has devised a monstrous sin.


To believe and become a believer a person must become familiar with the narrative being revealed. Once its message is revealed or read a human is expected to believe as God does not forgive association with him. He has now been warned and no excuse is given.

Compare the verses above to the verses below 20:48-20:52.

A discussion between Moses and Pharaoh

20:48-52
Indeed, it has been revealed to us that the punishment will be upon whoever denies and turns away.' "
[Pharaoh] said, "So who is the Lord of you two, O Moses?"
He said, "Our Lord is He who gave each thing its form and then guided [it]."
[Pharaoh] said, "Then what is the case of the former generations?"
[Moses] said, "The knowledge thereof is with my Lord in a record. My Lord neither errs nor forgets."


Only God Knows Best of any ones case. And He is the Most Merciful. Most Compassionate and Most forgiving.


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Re: Can Atheists Go To Heaven In Islam? A Surprising Answer!
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2015, 01:38:52 PM »
There are plenty of non-Muslims who claim to have read the Qur'an or at least passages. Apart form this, there are plenty of non-Muslims who have access to the Qur'an.
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Re: Can Atheists Go To Heaven In Islam? A Surprising Answer!
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2015, 02:53:23 PM »
Reading Quran and access to Quran by non believers does not give any
benefit to them until they "Follow " Quran. The basic concept of Quran is to believe in unseen.
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Re: Can Atheists Go To Heaven In Islam? A Surprising Answer!
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2015, 03:27:16 PM »
Yes yes. Some read it and reject it, mock it, ridicule it. God has verses describing such people, no..?

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Re: Can Atheists Go To Heaven In Islam? A Surprising Answer!
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2015, 06:00:49 PM »
Yes such people are Ahtiests and non believers and they will be questioned and given punishment according to their disbelief & actions
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Re: Can Atheists Go To Heaven In Islam? A Surprising Answer!
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2015, 03:20:37 AM »
We have to pause for a moment and consider what we mean by the term ‘disbeliever’. In my opinion, there is only two state of ‘dis-belief’.

The first state I refer to ‘disbelief out of arrogance’, and therefore by choice. One enters in to this state once the truth (in this case the existence of Allah) has been CLEARLY manifested to him, and made absolutely clear with no reason left for him/her to deny/reject it (given the recipients circumstance, and faculties). However, if, after clear evidence/proof, he/she still rejects the truth, it is then that one enters into the state of Kufr.

To better understand this stage, consider the example of pharaoh. After first listening to the message of Allah, communicated through the Prophet Musa, Pharaoh asked him to bring about a miracle. Pharaoh, who trusted in the skills of his magicians, wanted Musa (AS) to confront his magicians, since he was certain of his ultimate victory. In his opinion, a successful confrontation would secure his authority. However, the magician's’ performance was mere sorcery, which the miracle performed by the Prophet Musa rendered void. Thus, Pharaoh was defeated. Yet, instead of acquiescing and accepting to be rightly guided, he became still more arrogant.
“Witnessing the miracle performed by Musa (AS), the magicians embraced faith and came to believe in the Lord of Musa (AS). Nevertheless, their choice had no impact whatsoever on the hardened heart of Pharaoh. Rather, he decided instead to use force: The magicians threw themselves down in prostration. They said, “We believe in the Lord of all the worlds, the Lord of Musa and Harun.” Pharaoh said, “Have you believed in him before I authorised you to do so? This is just some plot you have concocted in the city to drive its people from it. I will cut off your alternate hands and feet and then I will crucify every one of you.”” (Surah Al A’raf 7:120-124)


The second state I refer to as ‘the absence of belief (or disbelief out of ignorance). This state is characterized by one whom the truth (in this case the existence of Allah) has either never reached or has not been clearly manifested to him/her. Again, I don’t consider this state ‘disbelieve’ but rather the ‘absence of belief’; because in such state one either never encountered the truth or has not been clearly manifested to him, hence he/she never had the option to believe or disbelieve.

To illustrate the second stage-absence of belief, consider the following scenario:

Suppose there is a man on an isolated island, and has been on that island since birth. Now suppose that that man has never made contact with anyone or anything outside of that island. As such, said man would have no idea of the existence of a God, as the truth (in this case God’s existence) has never reached him nor been clearly manifested to him (seeing as how he’s on an isolated island); as such, the man would have an ‘absence of belief’ in the existence of a God. Now suppose this man dies on that island, without the truth (in this case the existence of a God) having ever reached him. Now tell me, would it not be unjust of/for Allah to punish him in this scenario?  Seeing as how the truth (the existence of Allah) never reached or been clearly manifested to him; hence never having the chance to believe or disbelieve.

Therefore, one whom the truth of a certain matter (in this case the existence of Allah) has either never reached him or been clearly manifested to him (in my opinion) cannot been necessarily considered a ‘disbeliever’. Rather his scenario is one of ‘absence of belief’.

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Re: Can Atheists Go To Heaven In Islam? A Surprising Answer!
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2015, 10:25:54 PM »
The last part of a person who did not get Allah's messenge is left to God. But as you know the rustic people who are not literate are supposed to know the law of land. They can not plead ignorance of law
of the land and would be prosecuted as per law of land. Same may be applied to the people who did not receive Allah's commands.
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