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Islam is Not for Non-Arabs: Al-Quran
« on: February 02, 2016, 09:38:04 AM »
Salaamun alaykum dear Moderator,  I came across this article written by an author from a website www.islam-watch.org.

http://www.islam-watch.org/home/68-mumin/1186-islam-is-not-for-non-arabs-al-quran.html

The author is of the opinion that Al-Quran and it's teaching is only meant for arab-speaking nation. Therefore, non-arab-speakin-people like myself, does not need to follow.
Really appreciate your input to address all the argument presented especially the the author's elaboration of the quranic verses that was quoted to support the author's arguments.
Thanking you in advance for kind assistance.

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Re: Islam is Not for Non-Arabs: Al-Quran
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2016, 11:39:25 AM »
Quran and Islam are universal for all mankind and not restricted to Arabs.
May entire creation be filled with Peace & Joy & Love & Light

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Re: Islam is Not for Non-Arabs: Al-Quran
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2016, 01:44:20 PM »
Salaam Rosli,

Allow me to first say welcome to the forum. Were're glad to have you here. I hope your knowledge and wisdom will be of much benefit to us, and ours to you.

Now, unto your question. I was unable to open any of the links you've provided, so I can't really refute each one of the arguments the author has set forth. But the following link I shared makes, in my opinion, a clear case for the argument that the Quran is meant for ALL of mankind and not just for the Arabs. Please have a look at it:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/quran_for_mankind.htm

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Re: Islam is Not for Non-Arabs: Al-Quran
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2016, 03:47:55 PM »
Salamun Alaykum Bro Hassan A,
Thank you for the article.
Following the content of the article "Islam is not for non-arabs".

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According to divine tradition, Allah sent Muhammad as a prophet to the Arabs. The Quran states in numerous verses (4, 5, 6) that Muhammad brought with him a divine scripture in clear Arabic tongue.

Introduction

As we all know, Islam is based on the Quran, which is regarded by Muslims as Muhammad’s only miracle and the only evidence that he was a prophet. We also  know that Muslims disagree on what the Quran says; Muslims with good language skills can twist the words of the Quran, and their meanings, to reach their desired interpretation. These facts make Islam peculiar in being a religion whose foundations rest on the mastery of one language; the Arabic language. It is only natural that the Arabs are the ones who determine the meanings of the Quran and the direction of Islam; the rest of the Muslim umma (nations) just follow.

Arabs are the undisputed natural leaders of the Muslim nations just for being clever enough to speak their own language. Arabs enjoyed their position in the driving seat of Islam and guarded it fiercely. They invented the taboo that the Quran is too good to be translated to any other language; only the meanings of the verses that can be translated. The Arabs marketed the claim that only the people with good command of Arabic can taste the real beauty of the Quran. These are all big lies to be added to the heap of lies of Islam  -- the religion of deception and lies.

I do not want to appear to be offending any one, but how do you describe a person, who follows a religion based on a language he can not understand? How can that person claim to be convinced of Islam if he can not read the Quran, which is supposed to be Islam’s only ‘miracle’? How does that person believe the Quran is a language miracle if he can not speak the language? Even the so called scientific miracles are based on the language proficiency. The irony, is that those non Arab Muslims, who are often more fanatic to Islam than the Arabs themselves, do not even like or trust the Arabs in other matters of life. How do they trust them on Islam?.

Islam discusses issues relevant to Arabic culture from an Arabic point of view. The Quran only mentions places that were known to the Arabs of its time, and foods that were known to the Arabs and consumed by them. The Quran mentions animals and plants that were farmed by the Arabs or were known to them. Not once the Quran mentions far-off  phenomena like volcanoes, ice sheets or frozen rivers and lakes. All this and the Muslims insist that Islam is a global religion!

After I settled in the west, my Muslim friends of non Arabic backgrounds, treated me as their personal cleric and referred to me on issues related to Islam and the Quran, just because I spoke Arabic. Some of them were open in expressing their sense of unfairness that they have to suffer of the torture of practicing Islam in a foreign language (Arabic) while the Arabs have it the easy way and practice it in their own language. This article has some good news to those friends and to the non Arab Muslims in general: You do not have to to suffer anymore because you do not have to be Muslims at all (1).

This article is completely based on the Quran, its message is to highlight the Quranic evidence that:

Muhammad and his message were meant to be for the Arabs only
All other nations are not invited or expected to join Islam
When Allah decides to send his message to another non Arab nation, he will chose a prophet from that nation who can speak their language.
Allah promised not to punish those nations who do not receive a prophet.
A Divine Tradition

Allah has some divine traditions, called sunnatu-allah, that he never departs from or change (2, 3). One of those traditions is that he sends to every nation its own prophets from its own people. Hence Muhammad was sent to the Arabs and Moses to  the Jews. Allah would never send to the Arabs, or any nation, a foreign prophet. He would not even send to the Arabs an Arab  prophet with a foreign book, because they wouldn’t understand it (see Q.41:44 below). If Allah decides to send a message to a nation, say to the Indians, he chooses an Indian person, who speaks the local language, to be the prophet in charge of delivering the divine message.

Q.    14:4 “And We did not send any messenger except [speaking] in the language of his people to state clearly for them, and Allah …..”

This message is clarified further in chapter 10: a prophet for every nation.

Q.10:47 And for every nation is a messenger. So when their messenger comes, it will be judged between them in justice, and they will not be wronged

In chapter 41, Allah declares that he would understand if the Arabs reject a non Arabic Quran:

Q.41:44  “And if We had made it a non-Arabic Qur’an, they would have said, “Why are its verses not explained in detail [in our language]? Is it a foreign [recitation] and an Arab [messenger]?” Say ….”

The wisdom and rationality of the “Prophet for every Nation” policy is clear enough, but the Quran puts forward another important reason to keep the tradition: On the judgement day, those prophets will act as witnesses over their nations. It would be unfair to bring a Jewish, or another non Arab, prophet to witness over the Arabs!

Q. 16:89  “And [mention] the Day when We will resurrect among every nation a witness over them from themselves. And We will bring you, [O Muhammad], as a witness over your nation. And We have sent down to you the Book as clarification for all things …..”

Muhammad was a prophet for the Arabs only

In accordance with the above divine tradition, Allah sent Muhammad as a prophet to the Arabs. The Quran states, in numerous verses (4, 5, 6) that Muhammad brought with him a divine scripture in clear Arabic tongue. The Arabs should not have trouble with Muhammad because he is one of them who cares about them (see Q.9:128 below) and can communicate with them in their own language.

Q.2:151 Just as We have sent among you a messenger from yourselvesreciting to you Our verses and purifying you and teaching you the Book and wisdom and teaching you that which you did not know.
Q.9:128 There has certainly come to you a Messenger from among yourselves. Grievous to him is what you suffer; [he is] concerned over you and to the believers is kind and merciful.
By sending Muhammad to them, the Arabs should be grateful because now they have a prophet from their own who can teach them all the good things.

Q.3:164 Certainly did Allah confer [great] favor upon the believers when He sent among them a Messenger from themselves, reciting to them His verses and purifying them and teaching them the Book and wisdom, although they had been before in manifest error.
Muhammad’s mission covers the Mecca region

Muhammad’s mission was made clear in the Quran as specified in verse Q.6:92. His duty was to deliver the message to Mecca and its suburbs, which were inhabited by Arab tribes. Please note that the name “Um Al Kura” translated as “Mother of Cities” is another Arabic name for Mecca and still in use today.

Q.6:92 “And this is a Book which We have sent down, blessed and confirming what was before it, that you may warn the Mother of Cities and those around it…..”

It is clear that the verse talks about the Arab tribes living in Mecca (like “the Quraish” tribe) and its surroundings. According to this verse Muhammad’s duties did not include delivering his message to distant areas inhabited by the non Arabs.

Having established that the Quran was revealed in a clear Arabic tongue and that Muhammad was an Arab prophet sent to the Arabs, Allah states that now there is no excuse for the Arabs not to join Islam. In verse 43:44, Allah puts in Muhammad’s mind that he, along with his tribe, have responsibility towards the Quran and will be questioned about it on the judgment day. The verse has clearly excluded the non Arabs from this responsibility.

Q. 43:44 “And indeed, it is a remembrance for you and your people, and you  are going to be questioned”

The message in the above verse is clear: the Arabs can not be excused if they do not believe in Muhammad and the Quran. On the other hand, verses Q.26:198-199 tell us that Allah expects the non Arabs to reject the Quran, if recited to them, and would understand their reasons for doing so. According to these two verses, Allah believes that rejecting the Quran by the non Arabs is a natural response that is in agreement with rationality and common sense. In other words, the two verses suggest that it is stupid for the non Arabs to believe in the Quran!

Q. 198: “And even if We had revealed it to one among the foreigners”
Q.199: “And he had recited it to them [perfectly], they would [still] not have been believers in it”.
No Prophets, No Punishments policy

There are more exciting news for the non Arabs, who should follow their instincts and reject the Quran and Islam. Allah announces in verses Q.17:15 that he operates a “no prophets no punishments” policy, which is designed to give those non Arabs peace of mind in this life and the afterlife. Allah, being a just god, promised never to punish any nation unless he sends to that nation a prophet to deliver his message to them. This divine warranty is documented in chapter 17 of the Quran:

Q. 17:15 “Whoever is guided is only guided for [the benefit of] his soul. And whoever errs only errs against it. And no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. And never would We punish until We sent a messenger”

While the above verse assures the non Arabs of a good outcome in the afterlife, chapter 28, assures them with peace and stability in this life. In verse Q. 28:59, Allah promises not to destroy any town until they a receive a messenger from him.

Q. 28:59 And never would your Lord have destroyed the cities until He had sent to their mother a messenger reciting to them Our verses. And We would not destroy the cities except while their people were wrongdoers.

With so many assurances and concessions, why the non Arabs bother about Islam?

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References:

1.  As would be expected from the Quran, there are verses that suggest otherwise. The message to the non Arab Muslims is: either you accept the verses quoted in this article, which are the basis of the article, or accept the fact that there are contradictions in the Quran, therefore it is not divine.

Q. 48:23 [This is] the established way of Allah which has occurred before. And never will you find in the way of Allah any change.

Q.33:62  [This is] the established way of Allah with those who passed on before; and you will not find in the way of Allah any change.

Q. 26:195,195: In a clear Arabic language.

Q. 12:2 Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur’an that you might understand.

Q. 44:3 Indeed, We have made it an Arabic Qur’an that you might understand.

 

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Re: Islam is Not for Non-Arabs: Al-Quran
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2016, 02:57:22 AM »
Salamu Alykum Rosli


Welcome to the forum :)

What I think the writer fails to understand is the difference between a "Messenger"(Rasuul) and a "Prophet"(Nabi). I find that the writer is using the terms interchangeably although they have different meanings. I will provide examples later below.

Another thing is that its true that the Quran was revealed to an audience who's language was Arabic and therefore revealed in a Arabic language. However this does not mean that it cannot be translated in other languages to give the comprehensive meaning. Any disputes in meaning should always be referred back to the original scripture in the original language. This will also require a background of the Arabic language no doubt about it. There may be many who God has gifted that have the ability to understand the Quran in Arabic and also translate it in other languages that they may also be very affluent with. This can be argued its not fair to always verify as there will be non arabic speaking people. I also would assume even if there may be times where arabic people may not understand arabic. One has to realize that its the study of the scripture and the message that has to be understood.

Also keep in mind that its true the messenger Muhammad was sent to his people who he would be a witness to. Also the Arabs to be a witness on other nations.
(2:143 part)" Thus have We made of you an Ummah justly balanced That ye might be witnesses over the nations and the Messenger a witness over yourselves..."

Now the writer of the article said

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Muhammad and his message were meant to be for the Arabs only

I would disagree with that because the Quran clearly says

38:87  "This is no less than a message to (all) the Worlds."
21:107 "We sent thee(Muhammad) not, but as a Mercy for all worlds" (when read in context with the previous very, it is clear that this is regarding his capacity as a messenger as he was given the Quran and therefore a mercy for all people).
6:19(part)" ...this Qur'an hath been revealed to me by inspiration That I may warn you and all whom it reaches. ..."


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When Allah decides to send his message to another non Arab nation, he will chose a prophet from that nation who can speak their language.

God has clearly said in His book that Muhammad is the seal(final) of all prophethood. And also God does not tell us He will send a Prophet who can speak their language rather He tells us He does sent to every nation a Messenger who speaks in the language of his people.

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"Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of God, and the seal of the Prophets (Arabic: Khatama-Nabiyina): and God has full knowledge of all things"


The writer is not using the words messenger and prophet correctly. Please see a detailed article by Joseph Islam on the difference between the two below[1] . Insha'Allah(God Willing) you will understand the difference and then see how the verses mentioned in the article you provided don't hold any weight and when read correctly and translated correctly using the proper words, how the message becomes more clear.

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Allah promised not to punish those nations who do not receive a prophet.

Again the writer seems to misunderstand the Arabic or is using the word prophet in exchange for the word Messenger. I have not seen any translation that God said that He will not punish a nation unless they receive a Prophet. But it is true that God does not destroy or punish a people unless a Messenger is sent to them and they deny him.
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"Nor was thy Lord the one to destroy a population until He had sent to its centre a messenger, rehearsing to them Our verses; nor are We going to destroy a population except when its members practice iniquity / wrongdoing"


It can be argued that many messengers has come to nations after the demise of the Prophet Muhammad in the language of their people rehearsing God's words or reminding them of God's message.

It is true that God does send to every nation a messenger. And to every nation a messenger who speaks in the language of the people.
010:047
"And for every nation there is a Messenger. And when their Messenger comes (on the Day of Judgment) it will be judged between them fairly, and they will not be wronged"


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“ We sent not a messenger except (to teach) in the language of his (own) people, in order to make (things) clear to them. Now God leaves to stray those whom He pleases and guides whom He pleases: and He is Exalted in power, full of Wisdom”


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Allah has some divine traditions, called sunnatu-allah, that he never departs from or change (2, 3). One of those traditions is that he sends to every nation its own prophets from its own people.

The writer again seems to be confusing the two terms. Prophet and Messenger. However in his translations that he provided he uses the terms messenger.

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This message is clarified further in chapter 10: a prophet for every nation.
Again the translation he provided after do not mention prophet they mention messenger.

May peace and blessings be with you :)




[1]END OF PROPHETHOOD - CONTINUATION OF MESSENGERS?
http://quransmessage.com/articles/end%20of%20prophethood%20FM3.htm

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Re: Islam is Not for Non-Arabs: Al-Quran
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2016, 12:08:53 PM »
Salaam Rosli,

The the author of that writing made the following claim:

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Not once the Quran mentions far-off  phenomena like volcanoes, ice sheets or frozen rivers and lakes.

This is a foolish argument, in my opinoin. As I have alluded to on a previouse thread: The Quran is neither a book of history nor of science; it is book of guidance. Its subject matter is not to record or present history of humanity or of a certain people. The purpose of its revelation is also not to teach people science of the things that they can explore and learn on their own through observation, experimentation, and trial/error. Its subject matter is guidance – teaching human being how to live in this world so that they have the most optimum personality (individually) and the most optimum society (collectively) in this world and so that they will be successful in the Hereafter. hence why one find a lack of mention of the things the author mentioned.
Furthermore, the Quran does speak of the universe (the moon, the sun, Jinn, etc) which would constitute far-off phenomenons.

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It is only natural that the Arabs are the ones who determine the meanings of the Quran and the direction of Islam; the rest of the Muslim umma (nations) just follow.

not necessarialy. Any individual who is well versed in the langugae of the Quran can give their opinions on Quranic verses.

With respect of the authors interchangeable usage of the terms messenger and prophet, I agree with what brother Hamzeh has said.

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Re: Islam is Not for Non-Arabs: Al-Quran
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2016, 12:45:04 PM »
Thank you very much Bro Hassan A and Bro Hamzeh for your detailed clarification.   May God blessed you all.  ;D