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The fallacy of the Friday prayer
« on: March 10, 2017, 05:53:50 PM »
Aslamu alikum,

Can some one please clarify if friday prayers are from Quran ?   and why do Muslims follow Gregorian calendar for the Jumma prayer? The following article claims there is no such a thing as friday prayers from Quran, I am confused! 


https://peoplestrustmalaysia.wordpress.com/2017/03/10/the-fallacy-of-the-friday-prayer/

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Re: The fallacy of the Friday prayer
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2017, 09:32:43 PM »
Yes, yes there is.
Please see Surah Jummu'ah.
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Rather, We dash the truth upon falsehood, and it destroys it, and thereupon it departs. And for you is destruction from that which you describe. (21:18)

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Re: The fallacy of the Friday prayer
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2017, 12:26:54 AM »
There is nothing (in Quran or otherwise) to suggest that Jummu'ah is not a proper noun, and simply means 'congregation'.
Rather, We dash the truth upon falsehood, and it destroys it, and thereupon it departs. And for you is destruction from that which you describe. (21:18)

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Re: The fallacy of the Friday prayer
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2017, 04:50:48 AM »
Asalamu Alykum

I find this is a interesting question and from my thoughts the current friday prayer seems to align with the Quran in the fact that it is prescribed. Whether "Jummu'ah" means congregation or one of the days of the week does not make a difference. Although from what I think the word "Jummu'ah " is a well known term to mean a specific day of the week when calculated through the Gregorian calender it has been the day of Friday.

Both the Islamic and Gregorian calender have seven days in a week. They never jump or skip days. Assuming Sunday is the first day of the week and Saturday is the seventh day in the Gregorian and "ahaad" is the first day of the week in the Islamic calender and as we name the days in Arabic "saabit" is the seventh day. Leaving "Jummu'ah " always on the fifth which aligns to the current Friday.

What we also need to remain aware of is that the Quran was sneaking to a people who already had a well known calender and the days of the week.

The Quran remains clear that there is 12 month in a year and that a new moon strikes the beginning of a new month.

In the Islamic calender there is 7 days a week and in the Gregorian calender there is also 7 days a week.

The only thing that should be changing and differentiating between them is the on starts of the new month or in other words when the next month begins.

New moons are either sited 29 or 30 days in a Islamic calender as in the Gregorian it is always the same.

Just because new month are changing due to different days 29 or 30 does NOT change the seven day week system.

Insha'Allah that makes sense. Also if anyone thinks this is incorrect please advise.

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Re: The fallacy of the Friday prayer
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2017, 05:02:25 AM »
Peace

Sorry I need to make a correction from fifth day to sixth day in the last post.

Both the Islamic and Gregorian calender have seven days in a week. They never jump or skip days. Assuming Sunday is the first day of the week and Saturday is the seventh day in the Gregorian and "ahaad" is the first day of the week in the Islamic calender and as we name the days in Arabic "saabit" is the seventh day. Leaving "Jummu'ah " always on the sixth which aligns to the current Friday.

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Re: The fallacy of the Friday prayer
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2017, 03:41:49 AM »
Please see this post for link to: Formalisation of Friday prayer article

http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=2223.msg11467#msg11467