Noah's Age 950 Years

Started by yahya, March 27, 2017, 09:49:32 AM

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Duster

Quote from: yahya on April 01, 2017, 09:42:17 AM
But also the bible says there's only 10 generations between noah and abraham as well

And your point is what?

yahya

My point is if there are only 10 generations between adam and noah and if there ages were upto the thousand but they were one community then it wouldn't make much sense that if there were 10 generations only and shorter ages and everyone spread over the earth in 10 generations it would be too short of timeline and why wouldn't they stay in one community if you know what I mean so the 10 genration between noah and abraham would not make sense since between adam and noah was only 10 generations jazzakkallah

Duster

Honestly Yahya ... I don't know what you are talking about .....! Who said everyone spread all over the earth in the 10 generations to Abraham? and why are you using one timeline of a pre-flood and imposing it on another timeline after the flood??. This is the problem with so many of your posts in my opinion..... They are just so full of assumptions and and faulty conclusions based on faulty assumptions .... 2 different timelines !!! No one knows how the procreated and how they travelled and what communities went where.... Maybe the 10 generations to Abraham saw a more stable population growth and faster .... who knows???? maybe they had more kids .. who knows? May be the generations pre-flood went into so much corruption, murder and warfare etc that they started to wipe each other out before the flood ....Why do we have to sit here and guess!!!! ... Why??

Allah knows best .... lets just leave it to that!

Joseph Islam

Quote from: Duster on March 31, 2017, 08:57:16 PM
If there was as much corruption so much so that Allah had to destroy them all, I can only imagine the premature deaths in wars ... the diseases that may have spread among some of the unrighteous ... >>>the murders, the killings, the rapes ....pillaging etc .... So I think the numbers may not be that large come to think about it..... We can't just assume that because they had the potential of long lives that they were reproducing in large numbers, even in 10 generations or so ...even if they were .. they'll be numerous factors that could mean that many were also dying in high numbers - particularly as it was a really corrupt society .... In the end .....>>>Allah knows best ...

As-salamu alaykum Duster,

Yes indeed, there is support for mass violence existing pre-flood in the Bible. Please kindly see Genesis 6:11-13. You may also find it interesting to note the covenant that God made with Prophet Noah and all people with the rainbow as the sign (Genesis 9:12–15).

Regards,
Joseph
'During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act' 
George Orwell

relearning

well what attracts my attention is that people in the history who are accompanied to great prophets and were shown great miracles how can they go on refusing such signs. they must be so headless or so uncapable of understanding the true signs. When we review early human history it is easy to spot that people of old times easily given a high statue like 'god' to sun moon stars even natural phenomenons even stones. So how come these people can be so much reluctant not to believe a miracle which is just happening right in front of them considering for example noah living 950 years or in the event of other prophet's miracles a simple example jesus making bird from clay and by blowing it turns to be a living bird or in the event of abraham fire not touching him. Or moses many signs and miracles brought but only few following him. So what makes these ordinary people to easily accept stones stars moon sun fire gods easily but resist mindlessly such open signs miracles! is it because human kind in its nature irrational? or so obvious signs make him suspicous about it? like the saying "the only free cheese is in the mouse trap". is there a bug in human mind? =)

ibn_a

Salaam,



A possible explanation is that the people of Noah used a different calendar system and  that Noah and his people lived a "normal human life span".

"1000 sanatin illa 50 ʿāman",  could refer to "Noah's age at the time of the flood" according to their calendar counting system and not to an exceptional longevity.

28:14 And verily we sent Noah (as Our messenger) unto his folk, and he continued with them for a thousand years save fifty years; and the flood engulfed them, for they were wrong-doers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_King_List
... "The antediluvian reigns were measured in Sumerian numerical units known as sars (units of 3,600), ners (units of 600), and sosses (units of 60)."...



Mohamad Shahrour
https://youtu.be/5dCOalhMZtk
(in Arabic)



والله اعلم
Allah knows best.


ibn_a

Salaam,


Quote from: ibn_a on November 05, 2019, 11:01:28 PM
Salaam,



A possible explanation is that the people of Noah used a different calendar system and  that Noah and his people lived a "normal human life span".

"1000 sanatin illa 50 ʿāman",  could refer to "Noah's age at the time of the flood" according to their calendar counting system and not to an exceptional longevity.

28:14 And verily we sent Noah (as Our messenger) unto his folk, and he continued with them for a thousand years save fifty years; and the flood engulfed them, for they were wrong-doers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_King_List
... "The antediluvian reigns were measured in Sumerian numerical units known as sars (units of 3,600), ners (units of 600), and sosses (units of 60)."...



Mohamad Shahrour
https://youtu.be/5dCOalhMZtk
(in Arabic)



والله اعلم
Allah knows best.

Sorry, should be 29:14

https://www.islamawakened.com/quran/29/14/default.htm