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A Question About the Namaz Tradition
« on: November 11, 2011, 10:19:09 AM »

by Joseph Islam  , On God's Earth, Thursday, November 10, 2011, 17:44 (1 hours, 32 minutes ago) @ Shabbir Ahmed

Dr. Shabbir.

The flaw of your argument is in its premise.

You say:

"So, this is the Salaat or Namaaz of Hadith. Can you pray at all according to Hadith? If you claim Hadith tells you the method of Namaaz, then, which one is the greater riddle; Hadith or your thinking?"

Where in the Quran are you told that we need to pray in the manner of the Hadith? Why do you make that assumption?

You say:

"- "Imam" Waqidi, a liar by consensus, claimed: Imam Maalik alone, transcribed 100,000 Ahadith. He learned from 900 teachers and by age 17 he was able to teach classes of Hadith. When the authenticity of MUWATTA (title of his compilation) was questioned, he suggested throwing it in water; if the water did not damage the writing, then that was to be taken as proof of its accuracy."

Why are you using a 'liar by consensus' by your own statement and then using the same 'liar' to undermine Imam Maliks work?

Furthermore, using one set of historical narratives to undermine another is called circular reasoning. You are arguing from within the Islamic secondary sources which are subject to the same question of authenticity.


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