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Ayah 59:70
« on: April 17, 2013, 08:27:52 AM »
إِلَّا مَن تَابَ وَآمَنَ وَعَمِلَ عَمَلًا صَالِحًا فَأُولَٰئِكَ يُبَدِّلُ اللَّهُ سَيِّئَاتِهِمْ حَسَنَاتٍ وَكَانَ اللَّهُ غَفُورًا رَّحِيمًا

Except him who repents and believes and does a good deed; so these are they of whom Allah changes the evil deeds to good ones; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

As per this Ayah Allah transform bad deeds into good deeds if the believer repents & does good deeds. Does this mean that instead of wiping off bad deeds these will be transformed into good deeds. Some brother may kindly explain. Thanks
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Re: Ayah 59:70
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2013, 09:32:20 AM »
Salaam Sardar,

Would you please recheck the verse number?

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Re: Ayah 59:70
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2013, 10:18:32 AM »
Sorry Bro I mis quoted The Ayah is 25:70 Thanks
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Re: Ayah 59:70
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2013, 05:23:49 PM »
Assalamu Alaikum,

According to Quran, ‘saleh’ deeds are acts which develop one’s capabilities. The verse means, if someone/ group of people repent, make amendments, keep away from evil deeds, reform,  and work to develop their capabilities, Allah’s law will bring positive changes in them and this will transform their evil deeds into good deeds and thus give them protection from the deficiencies created from their wrong deeds.

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Re: Ayah 59:70
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2013, 11:03:37 PM »
Peace,

25:70  those are they whose evil deeds God shall change into good one

11:114  Indeed the good deeds take away the evil ones

Yes, looks like there is transformation.  Isn't it the goal?  To create transformed believers?  The faults are covered by plenty of virtuous behavior.

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Re: Ayah 59:70
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2013, 04:26:40 AM »
I am just asking if after repentense the  bad deeds will be transformed into goog deeds which means not only our good deeds are rewarded after repentense but earlier bad deeds are changed into good deeds Thanks
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Re: Ayah 59:70
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2013, 09:30:59 AM »
salaam,

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I am just asking if after repentense the  bad deeds will be transformed into goog deeds which means not only our good deeds are rewarded after repentense but earlier bad deeds are changed into good deeds

You mean killing two birds with one stone?  True repentance leads to reformation/transformation of beliefs and practices.  Your actions will prove your new, improved, repentant nature.  Then God cancels past sins and by His Grace you become pious, patient, steadfast, devoted servant.  You are making the effort !



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Re: Ayah 59:70
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2013, 01:13:30 AM »
Bro. JAI may please throw some light on this Ayah. Thanks
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Re: Ayah 59:70
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2013, 06:30:54 AM »
Bro. JAI may please throw some light on this Ayah. Thanks

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Re: Ayah 25:70
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2013, 08:55:57 AM »
OK Let us wait till he is back inshallah
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Re: Ayah 59:70
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2013, 05:22:48 AM »
Assalam Bro JAI. Having come back can you please throw some light on this Ayah if are having time. Thanks
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Re: Ayah 59:70
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2013, 06:01:09 AM »
Salaam Sardar Miyan:
The adopted translation of سَيِّئَاتِ & حَسَنَاتٍ (good deeds, bad deeds) is incorrect. سَيِّئَاتِ means the negative tendencies in your nafs نفس (self, personality, purposefulness etc.). These negative tendencies are earned كسب through past bad deeds. When you change your ways, over a period of time, your good deeds shall cause positive changes in your nafs نفس. Thus eventually, if you persist on the right path, you will be able to change your (earlier) bad tendencies in to good tendencies. Hope you find it helpful.

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Re: Ayah 59:70
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2013, 04:11:57 AM »
Salam Can  Bro JAI may please explain as still I am not able to follow about this Ayaah Thanks
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Re: Ayah 59:70
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2013, 05:49:07 AM »
Peace,

11:114  "Good things carry away the evils" innal hasanati yudh'hib'nal sayiat.  it is mentioned right after the salat timing thus salat is considered a hasanat; a transformational act.


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Re: Ayah 59:70
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2013, 09:16:15 AM »
Dear Sardar,

As-salam alaykum

My sincerest apologies. Sorry to have missed your question. My views are not so different from those shared by brother Irfan in 'Reply #9 in the link below.

http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=851.0

I agree with the responses given by Bros Miyan and Siddiq.  The critical verse to understand 25:70 (which used the derivative of the root verb  "baddala =switch) is to understand its cognate verse 11:114 (which uses the root verb "dhahaba =takes away) and the verse 28:54 that uses the root verb "dara'a = to avert):
28:54 "Twice will they be given their reward, for that they have persevered, (and) they avert evil with good." Notice the "doubling of the award, one for persevering and the other for averting evil with good.
Even if the meaning of the “Sayyi’ah” is “sin”, still the verse 6:60 allows the “sinner” to offset the balance of sins in his favor by a margin of 10:1.
[6:160] Whoever does a righteous work receives the reward for ten, and the one who commits a sin is requited for only one. No one suffers the slightest injustice

One must also keep in mind God's overarching mercy which can be noted in verses 6:12 and 6:54. This is already tacitly alluded to in the quote above referencing verse 6:160. In some semblance, please also note verse 39:35, where God says He will acquit, remove (kaffara) from the worst of what one did and reward one for the best (ahsani) of what they used to do. The word 'kaffara' from its root 'kfr' as many will know inherently carries the nuance of 'concealment', to veil or cover a thing.

The balance is certainly tilted in a soul's favour, albeit sadly, many still will end up in a state of loss.


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