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Offline Alaeddin

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Questions - Tattoos and Homosexuality
« on: November 12, 2011, 09:33:56 AM »
Salam Alaykum


My cousin came across this website and shared it with me. I'm finding it very enlightening so thank you. I just had a couple of questions which deal with a couple more issues which I hear a lot of different opinions on. I ask mainly because what I hear is a terrible portrayal of Islam which I doubt very much to be true. The first is the issue of tattoos. I think mostly, Muslims believe them to be haram. I have no problem with this being true, even though I've never really seen any mention of them in the Qur'an, but its the stories and messages about the image of the tattoo coming to life in the hereafter o punish you and all sorts of nonsense like this that worries me. What's your opinion on tattoos and their permissibility?

Also, the other is homosexuality. My concern this time is I've heard some so called 'scholars' say this is a practice punishable by death. What in your opinion is a true Islamic position on this? Thanks

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Re: Questions - Tattoos and Homosexuality
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2011, 02:01:28 PM »
Brother Alaeddin,

Salamun Alaikum.

I see your question in two parts so I will answer accordingly.


ARE TATOOS HARAM?

Haram is a very strong word and one must be careful not to pronounce something 'haram' if it is not explicitly mentioned or strongly implied by the Quranic verses by strong analytical deduction.

Albeit the Quran does not give direct references to 'tattoos', it does give much guidance from which we can derive an answer.

I personally would not consider 'tattoos' or any decorative items on the human skin inherently taboo.

It is the 'nature' of the tattoo or 'decorative impression' (and possibly where it appears on the body) which is of more relevance. Tattoos can be graphically lewd, gross, profane, blasphemous etc which would run contrary to many of the Quranic verses and would amount to a transgression. This would clearly be taboo. Permanent tattoos can also mutilate the skin and harm it in a manner which would arguably put it at tension with verses 4:118-119

004:118-119 (Part)
"...and he said "Most certainly I will take of your servants an appointed portion: I will surely mislead them, and I will create in them false desires; I will order them to slit the ears of cattle and to deface the creation of God..."

I would find such a permanent affliction on the human body difficult to support and would personally strongly discourage it in light of the Quran.

However temporary tattoos much like Henna for women which are not permanent on the skin should not be a problem as long as they do not amount to a transgression. However, decorating the skin in sensitive areas, or private areas of the human body is arguably contrary to the Quranic teachings as more than likely a 3rd person would be involved to impression it.

As far as images and statues being haram, I find no support for this in the Quran. In fact, I find such a concept negated. Prophet Solomon had 'statues' made for the Lord's temple (34:13). The difference is he did not make them to worship them but to decorate the temple. (2 Chronicles 3:1, 3:10). In contrast, Prophet Abraham's father worshipped the 'statues' (021.051-052). So it is not the 'statue' which is inherently 'haram' but what you do with it. There is a difference. However, lewd graphical images or statues which run counter to the spirit of the Quran's guidance are obviously a transgression.


DEATH FOR HOMOSEXUALITY

Punishment of death is only actionable in two circumstances in the Quran.
 
           (1)  As a retribution for causing 'fasaad' (gross mischief / evil, beyond all bounds) in the land (punishable by the state)
           (2)  As a retribution for murder (punishable by the state).

There is no punishment for death for homosexuality in the Quran. However, the Quran deems homosexuality as a sinful transgression, a 'fahisha' and it attracts condemnation and some form of retribution if one does not repent (for an Islamic state to decide based on circumstances). Verse 4:16-17 makes this clear.

004.016
'And as for the two of you who are guilty thereof, then punish them both. But if they repent and amend, then let them be. Indeed! God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

Homosexuality in the Quran runs contrary to the nature of humans where genders of opposite sex have been created for intimate relationships and procreation through 'lawful marriage' (Nikaah) . The practice of homosexuality has also been severely rebuked in the example captured in the narratives regarding the People of Lot.

007:080-81
"And Lot when he said to his people "Do you commit lewdness (Arabic: fahishata) such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you? Indeed, you approach men lustfully in preference to women. Nay, you are a people transgressing beyond bounds / committing excesses"


I hope this helps,
Joseph.
'During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act' 
George Orwell

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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2011, 05:56:20 PM »
Thanks for your response.

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Re: Questions - Tattoos and Homosexuality
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2011, 09:05:47 PM »
Peace Bro Joseph & to All,

HQ: 24:2 stated that woman and man who fornicates are to be slash 100 times without compassion

Should we shows compassionate to homosexual?

My humble opinion.

Peace Bro Joseph

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Re: Questions - Tattoos and Homosexuality
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2011, 11:15:12 PM »
Salaam Saleh,

As Joseph mentioned, the act of homosexuality is punishable in the Quran. Once this has been discovered, a punishment may be meted out by whoever is in authority after the facts and evidence have been gathered.

Then I feel that like the lashes for adultery, one should be unwavering in carrying out the duty. This is because God has ordered a punishment. Also others will get a clear message that God is displeased with such acts.

It may be that after the punishment, the two repent and change the error of their ways (4.16) realising that they had displeased God. Then no one has the right to harass them because God's mercy can be infinite.

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