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General Discussions / Re: Noah's Age 950 Years

« on: April 02, 2017, 02:06:57 AM »

My point is if there are only 10 generations between adam and noah and if there ages were upto the thousand but they were one community then it wouldn't make much sense that if there were 10 generations only and shorter ages and everyone spread over the earth in 10 generations it would be too short of timeline and why wouldn't they stay in one community if you know what I mean so the 10 genration between noah and abraham would not make sense since between adam and noah was only 10 generations jazzakkallah

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General Discussions / Re: 5:101 and 57:14

« on: April 01, 2017, 10:42:33 AM »

Yes but philosophy makes you qustion about everything so when you qustion you can fall into doubt so the verse makes it sound like they the hypocrites put them selves in to situations that can make them doubt if you know what I mean jazzakkallah

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General Discussions / Re: Noah's Age 950 Years

« on: April 01, 2017, 10:42:17 AM »

But also the bible says there's only 10 generations between noah and abraham as well

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General Discussions / Re: 5:101 and 57:14

« on: April 01, 2017, 02:09:59 AM »

Ok thanks that answers 5:101 because it is meaning more about what is halal or haram to the point that makes things difficult to perform like the children of israily it's talking more about the sharia law etc thanks jazzakkallah.

But I'm still stuck on the other verse 57:14 because it talks about putting your self into doubt and we know philosophy is one of the most hardest subjects that make you qustion so wouldn't 57:14 be talking about that jazzakkallah

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General Discussions / Re: 5:101 and 57:14

« on: March 30, 2017, 11:56:50 AM »

Like it says in 57:14 that the hypocrites field into doubt because they put themselves there si that makes it sound like we're not allowed to question like we are not allowed to study science or philosophy etc because they get you too qustion that's why I'm confused by these 2 verses

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General Discussions / Re: Noah's Age 950 Years

« on: March 30, 2017, 11:52:10 AM »

I know I was saying I agree with you what you said about ad and thamud that's what I was saying all I was saying was that 7:65 said khalifa so normally khalifa is past on from one nation to another so when the verse says after noah it makes it sound like they became the next khalifa after noah that was all but I was not questioning about thamud and ad I was saying I agreed with what you said in that discussion the thamud post jazzakkallah

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General Discussions / Re: Noah's Age 950 Years

« on: March 30, 2017, 11:09:48 AM »

This is not a question and this is my last information to this post I agree that every one could off been one community in noah time but my problem with that the quran makes it clear the noah was close to ad and thamud and we know if petra was thamud then noah had to be close to that time give or take a few thousand years before so if that is the case noah would be between 10-5 thousand bc so noah nation could not be one community if you know what I mean unless someone can prove that 7:65 and 7:74 doesn't mean noah was really close to ad and thamud timeline but that these verse just mean they were khalifas like noah but not after or near noah timeline to make noah close to ad and thamud timeline this is just information not a question but I'm done now but thanks for the help and I agree with joesph islam verse 18:22 part
Enter not, therefore, into controversies concerning them, except on a matter that is clear / obvious / apparent (Arabic: Illa miraan zahiran).
.."

But like I said I'm done with this question jazzakkallah

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General Discussions / 5:101 and 57:14

« on: March 30, 2017, 10:45:39 AM »

Assalam alikum I was just wondering there are loads of verses whitch encourage to qustion and not to be blind followers and such but these verses 5:101 and 57:14 makes it sound like once your a muslim ir already a muslim your not allowed to question anymore or its wrong to qustion like 57:14 makes it sound like if you qustion you are becoming a hypocrite so I'm confuse by these verses jazzakkallah

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General Discussions / Re: Noah's Age 950 Years

« on: March 30, 2017, 05:36:26 AM »

Please forgive me I was not questioning your position or belief I just wondered what does it mean if the quran says one thing and the bible says another when the quran confirms the bible

Also does the quran say that noah nation was the first to commit shirk  or was there nations before who commit shirk what's the quran position on this as well

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General Discussions / Re: Noah's Age 950 Years

« on: March 30, 2017, 02:30:34 AM »

Thanks I guess my last question is in your articles you say the quran doesn't say the bible is corrupt but what happens when the bible says one thing and the quran says another doesn't  that prove the bible is corrupt or something is wrong with the bible but thanks

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General Discussions / Re: Noah's Age 950 Years

« on: March 30, 2017, 01:45:25 AM »

Thanks jazzakkallah this is not a question just my opion why I have a problem with the bible timeline that I just want to share on this page that's all its not a question just sharing information

1. The problem is the bible gives a timeline of only 6 thousand years but humans exsist way before that and they were smart like example the gobekli temple or building or such
2. The bible gives just 10 generations between noah and abraham as well
3. Also within these timeliness they insult the prophets alot like saying noah got drunk and prophet lut slept with his daughters etc
4. Also I believe the bible can only be used so much because when you compare the two the bible and quran you get alot of confusion and that's why the quran can only be trusted fully
5. The old ttestament is the worst out of the two old and new testament at least the new testament only focuses on prophet jesus and it's more of a guidance like the quran than the old testament

These are just my views that i finally wanted to share with this page but thanks jazzakkallah and I understand what you mean jazzakkallah

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General Discussions / Re: Noah's Age 950 Years

« on: March 29, 2017, 03:56:58 AM »

Also I went on my timeline because they said we bred with neanderthals and if that was the case then they had to be humans and also there finding more and more whitch says they are humans

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General Discussions / Re: Noah's Age 950 Years

« on: March 29, 2017, 03:26:32 AM »

Ok will the scholor who said this about the generation bible thing was from al mawald website the scholors under javed ghamidi

You said you don't agree with the timeline what timeline do you think is the best from your humble opinion because like I said it really depends in if the homo erectus and neanderthal are humans or not if they are then adam had to be from one of the timeline period but like I said this is where I thought of the timeline but it would be great to hear your view what your think I also got this timeline from the scholor pof joey hayward or joel hayward he is the brother who does poems and is a historian jazzakkallah

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General Discussions / Re: Noah's Age 950 Years

« on: March 29, 2017, 01:55:50 AM »

Thanks but I still think that that adam came anywhere from 20 thousand bc  to 1.2 million years ago all depends if the homo erectus and neanderthal was humans or not and noah was between 5-10 thousand bc and he was sent only to his people and that there were humans all over the earth when noah was alive but the flood only effected his people and that we don't all come from noah and the people if the ark because noah had to be close to ad and thamud and AD and thamud had to of come between 2-7 thousand bc especially if those buildings are thamud in petra and madain al saleh  and the quran says noah was close to ad and thamud because the quran says ad was khalifa after noah so these our my views maybe noah nation was a special nation a one off with age but I don't think there was 10 generations between adam and noah but much longer and the 10 genration thing is from the bible and hadith also one scholor said when the bible mentions 10 people in between of Adam and noah it was the most best of people but not the age of generations but this is my options but thanks

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General Discussions / Re: Noah's Age 950 Years

« on: March 28, 2017, 07:33:21 AM »

Ok thanks but wouldn't of people thought of him as a angle or god like sine he was the only one living that long and don't forget noah had a wife and children as well if he was the only too live that long he must of had children and wife later on in his life