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General Discussions / Re: Food dedictated to other deities instead of Allah
« on: February 18, 2014, 12:29:07 AM »Yes, "upon which the name of Allah has been remembered" is in past tense. To me this implies the name of Allah could have been remembered anytime during the food preparation and serving process. The best way for me to be sure is by mentioning Allah just before I eat.Salaam!
NO. it is in the passive form, meaning, the person who eats need not necessarily the one who mentions Allah's name.
You are now saying that the name of Allah could have been remembered anytime during the food preparation and serving process. You have diluted your stand (earlier you were specific about mentioning God's name before eating), but now reached up to the stage from food preparation till eating (still finding it difficult to go beyond this stage to slaughtering!).
My questions: I have been repeatedly asking you several times, but without any reply from you. Sorry! I have to re-phrase my question based on your comment above.
1. Is it mandatory to mention God's name between any time after slaughtering until we eat, in view of the clear instruction in the verse "if we are true believers in Allah's law".?
2. Suppose in a case where I am personally convinced that the animal is slaughtered mentioning Allah's name, still then, is it required for me to mention Allah's name (anytime starting from food preparation till I eat)?
Please you should not avoid answering the above two questions this time. Please brother Arman. Thanks
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Most of the time I do not know the people who slaughter the animals I eat - so it is impractical for me to ascertain whom they "really" remembered during slaughter even if someone certifies the food as Halal. Because, at the end of the day, those who are certifying are not my Master - Allah is. So is it OK for me to NOT remember Allah over a food certified Halal? I don't think so. Per my humble understanding I am only accountable to my Master for whom I remember over my food. That's how I understand the verses of my Master and that's how I try to practice.
Good that you raised a practical question. Well appreciated. Let me ask you another question. Most of the time we also do not know whether the meat we actually eat is from a dead animal and it is also impractical for me to ascertain the meat is not prepared from a dead animal. So what is the solution under these circumstances? Just mentioning Allah's name before eating?
Kindly note, these practical issues and difficulties are not the reasons for the rules stipulated by Allah. It is the responsibility of the Muslim society/ state to ensure that they have proper licensed slaughtering houses where animals are slaughtered following Islamic rules, managed by Muslims only, no dead animals are brought to the slaughtering houses, all animals brought for slaughtering are healthy and devoid of major sickness, no animals are slaughtered dedicated to others other than Allah, etc. If no Islamic state is in existence, the slaughtering has to be handled through collective efforts of Muslims in an area. It will be the responsibility of Muslims in an area to ensure that strict Islamic rules are followed. You are trying to bypass a rule with excuses. I believe that if something happens even after all the precautions are taken, we do not have to worry about the consequences. Please note, if an animal is slaughtered dedicated to others other than Allah, even if you mention a thousand times Allah’s name, its meant is not going to be Halaal for you. We have a duty to ensure that we do not eat animals dedicated to others. Allah certainly may forgive us if we eat meant of an animal (after all precautions are taken) on the belief that it is not dedicated to others other than Allah and that Allah’s name has been pronounced at the time of slaughter. This is entirely a different issue.
Regards,
Optimist
?? Kindly apply logic!