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Offline Mubashir

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Did Jews kill some of their prophets or tried to kill them?
« on: December 19, 2011, 07:26:51 PM »
Salam Friends,

During my study of the Qur'an, I run into a same verse  translated differently by different authors.  We sometimes have to stop and ask questions to understand which is the correct rendering. For example:

Which translation is correct as per history of the Jews? Did the Jews did in fact kill/slay God's prophets? What does the Bible or New Testament tell us? Or did they attempt to kill them?


2:91 When it is said to them, "Believe in God's revelations" they reply, "We believe in what was revealed to us," but they do not believe in what came afterwards, though it is the truth confirming what they already have. Say [Muhammad], "Why did you kill God's prophets in the past if you were true believers?

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When it is said to them, `Believe in that (- the Qur'an) which Allah has sent down.' They say, `We believe only in that (- the Torah) which has been sent down to us.' And they deny every thing other than that (and which has since been revealed); though it (- the Qur'an) is the lasting truth and corroborates that which is already with them (in their own Scriptures). Say, `Why, then, did you seek to kill the Prophets of Allah in former times if you were (real) believers (in the former Scriptures)?

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Re: Did Jews kill some of their prophets or tried to kill them?
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2011, 04:00:43 PM »
Salaam Mubashir

The question was asked as a matter of fact regarding the killing ('falima' in 2:91). So the first translation you have given is correct.  The fact they slew the prophets is also confirmed by other verses such as 2:61 and 4:155,.

This is confirmed by the Bible. Please see 1 Thessalonians 2:15 and Matthew 23:29-32.

Thanks.

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Re: Did Jews kill some of their prophets or tried to kill them?
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2011, 03:51:33 AM »
Thanks Truth Seeker. Wonder, though if the Old Testament has any evidence as well?

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Re: Did Jews kill some of their prophets or tried to kill them?
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2011, 11:07:02 AM »
Salam brother Mubashir,

Would such information in the Old Testament not be incriminating?  Were some verses not intentionally hidden by the writers of the Old Testament as per the Quran?

Could it be possible that such incriminating verses were intentionally masked / hidden by the writers of the Old Testament?

Having said that though, 2 Chronicles 36:16 does seem to suggest that Prophets were given a 'hard time'. Not sure if this can be taken to men 'killing' but then I personally wouldn't expect such an incriminating verse in the Old Testament.

2 Chronicles 36:16
New International Version (NIV)
16 But they mocked God's messengers, despised his words and scoffed at his prophets until the wrath of the LORD was aroused against his people and there was no remedy.

Saba.