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#1
Great news!

Project Root List website has now been optimised for mobile/tablet devices:
https://studyquran.org/PRL/PRLonline.htm
#2
You have misunderstood https://www.quranvshadith.com/study-method.html

It does not say a reader requires everything in the list or to do everything in the list. It clearly states "I consider the following", then proceeds to discuss what exactly.

Strawman.
#3
Did you chatGPT that?
Remember chatGPT is only as good as what is fed into it, and for deep Quran analysis its hit and miss from my experience.

Have you actually read The Quran?



1) it works for the recipients at the time also. They would have used whatever was revealed to them e.g. if they had 2 chapters, then those 2 chapters would have to be understood holistically.

2)  see 30:30. It is about potentiality. It can work for for everyone. Many bury it.

3) there is convergence on lots. Yes, billions of people will have, shock horror, different views on things. Proves nothing.

4) It doesn't say it is its only divine feature. Strawman.

5) Nope. Gives us a robust methodology:
https://www.quranvshadith.com/study-method.html

6) see (2) above. A person can be "good" but they are unlikely to be able to naturally incline to all that is good, e.g. from individual to collective societal rules etc. This is where Quran steps up. Natural inclination to good is awesome but it can only take you so far.


And as for that thread you linked to. I replied in it.

5)
#4
A simple yet powerful concept:
#6
peace brother,

Working fine from the UK.

ps - have you read my latest book?
https://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=3000.msg15056#msg15056
#9
peace fireheart,
I actually added a note to my article recently which elaborates on this specific point:
https://mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-masjid-al-haram-Quran.html
Tbh I think the article potentially points to a big breakthroughs in Quran research.

New note 1/1/26: Many explanations of Chapter 53 of Quran think it is describing a mystic/unique experience, with possible links to chapter 17:1. A tentative translation of 53:10-17 is shown below:
So He revealed to His servant* what He revealed.
The heart did not invent what it saw**.
Do you doubt him in what he saw**?
And certainly he saw it/him other/another descent/lodging/phase.
In the presence of (or near) the ultimate/utmost/farthest boundary/lote-tree***.
In the presence of it (or near it) the garden/paradise (of) abode.
When covered the boundary/lote-tree*** what covers.
Not swerved the sight, nor did it stray.

*"His servant" same wording as 17:1.
**same root used in 17:1 and 17:60. Implies the heart saw, suggesting a different kind of "seeing".
***lote-tree, Asad: "owing to the abundance of its leafy shade... perhaps symbolic of the "shade", i.e. spiritual peace and fulfillment of paradise." Note the use of utmost/farthest, similar to "aqsa" in 17:1.

This is very interesting based on how I have understood the vision alluded to in chapter 17 as discussed above. Essentially a vision of the future was shown to the prophet, that coincides with him completing the mission and the end of his life. Food for thought.
#10
peace all,

Title and website:
Hadith vs. Qur'anic Logic: Self-Destruction of a Theology
https://www.quranvshadith.com

This work carefully examines the epistemic, theological, and textual flaws in elevating Hadith to a binding source of Islamic law. Drawing directly from The Qur'an's language, logic, and internal consistency, it demonstrates how the Hadith corpus contradicts divine revelation, undermines monotheism, and collapses under its own contradictions. A unique feature of this work is it builds logical paradoxes that expose the self-defeating nature of the Hadith-based theological position.
It also covers the transmission differences, tackles "the book and the wisdom" argument, provides a list of 100 hadith contradictions, discusses salat and a helpful study method based on The Qur'an itself.

Book:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FX9DQFZ1

#11
I've been using this one for a while but not sure if I posted it:

Hadith advocates who think whatever prophet said or enacted was revelation and thus worthy of it being recorded later as hadith.


The reply:

No and this is proven from Quran itself.

33:53 tells us explicitly not to wait around for PROPHET'S hadith.
If they were critical for us it would be impossible for God to say this, because it would be akin to turning them away those seeking knowledge.
Exactly what God rebukes prophet for in chapter 80 for shunning a blind man who was possibly seeking the truth.

God contradicts Himself according to them.

Thus if their position is true it creates an internal contradiction and disproves their God and Quran.


Then the final blow is 66:3-5
It reprimands prophets wives for spreading PROPHET'S hadith here.

Thus the sahabah cannot wait around for prophets hadith nor spread them.



Case closed.


Game over?
#13
peace,

One of my favourties:

41:53

We will show them Our signs/aayat in the horizons, and within themselves, until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth. Is it not enough that your Lord is witness over all things?



This is powerful to me because it is basically saying everywhere you look, study, search, from the inner to the outer world, it all points to the truth, as explained in Quran. This means pursuit of knowledge, of nature, science etc it all leads to one realisation. The Quran is not a book afraid of man's intellect. It asks us hundreds of questions, which is quite incredible, it's challenging us, its asking us to reflect, to wonder, and when you look around you realise its ayat/signs are everywhere.
#14
Announcement:

New web address:

http://studyquran.org/PRL/PRLonline.htm


Old link will stop working shortly.
#15
I have added another:

See article for references.

21. **Even the most attested hadith have issues**
The hadith considered most mutawatir (mass-transmitted)—"Whoever lies about me (intentionally) will enter Hellfire"—shows variation in its wording. [reference]
Likewise, the Prophet's Farewell Sermon, arguably the most widely witnessed hadith, exists in multiple versions with significant differences. For example, some versions instruct followers to uphold: (1) the Quran alone, (2) the Quran and Sunnah, (3) the Quran and Ahl al-Bayt, while others omit this instruction entirely. Among these, version (1) appears to be the most widely attested. [reference]
If even the most broadly transmitted hadith contain discrepancies, it follows logically that less well-attested hadith should be approached with even greater scrutiny and caution. Thus, even the most widely attested hadith cannot equal the Quran in terms of its textual integrity and precision.